delayed gyno during/after PCT..advice needed please

elitephysiques

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I did a Super DMZ 3.0 (msten, Alpha-1, DMZ combo Prohormone)
for 4 weeks at 2 caps/day and got some serious gains. Had no gyno problems during the entire cycle and none of these compounds are able to aromatize

HOWEVER!!!

I'd say right at the end of my 4 week PCT ( only Clomid 100/100/75/50)
I started to have very sensitive nipples. I recovered perfectly fine and my balls and libido came back in like 1.5 months/2 months but towards the end of PCT this gyno shit started.

My nipples did develop lumps, the left is pea sized and the right is hardly noticeable. (currently)
they were CRAZY sensitive and puffy. At times a very small amount of clear liquid would come out. flare ups would happen daily. It was horrible and at the time I just rode it out as I had NO idea what I was doing wrong. So after like 3 months of dealing with that my hormones finally have stabalized and I am left with these very small lumps.

I want to do another cycle (I have an extra bottle of Super dmz 3 I got before the bans) because this stuff is gold but I feel like i fucked up the PCT and thats why I suffered.
Any ideas of what PCT should look like? Here is my idea (all products are pharma grade now)
Nolva: 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/100/75/50
Exemestane 25mg/12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5
(Possibly caber too for prolactin?)

I almost dont want to cycle ever again due to this experience but if I do I need to be certain that there is no physically possible way this shit happens again

THANKS!
 
So for a pro hormone you took the equivalent amount of clomid someone would for a 4g cycle and then for your following pct you want to use an AI during it and more MG then I use for a 18 week cycle... Seems legit. Keep reading bud and if you are gonna screw with your body's hormones please do it sensibly with as much education on the matter as possible.

Oh ya and if your age is accurate at 19 maybe stop f*cking your body up before you do perminant damage?
 
So for a pro hormone you took the equivalent amount of clomid someone would for a 4g cycle and then for your following pct you want to use an AI during it and more MG then I use for a 18 week cycle... Seems legit. Keep reading bud and if you are gonna screw with your body's hormones please do it sensibly with as much education on the matter as possible.

Oh ya and if your age is accurate at 19 maybe stop f*cking your body up before you do perminant damage?

I think you misunderstood. Many people recommend 100 mcg clomid for 2 weeks and to taper down to 50 the last week. I dont understand the issue?

secondly, Yes the exemestane I want to use in the next PCT as I believe I had high estrogen from the clomid in the past pct. 25mg first week to kickstart and 12.5mg (standard dose) to maintain through pct and a couple weeks after...whats the big problem?

your advice conflicts with a lot of other senior member advice on other forums so I'd just like an explanation of why the doses are so bad, preferably not just because you are good on lower doses. Thanks! Lastly, Ill be 20. in less than a month and I dont plan to run the next cycle for a little while after that.
 
Alright well let's see what the "senior members" from this form says because I don't know what forums you are talking about but you are overdoing it. The key to this stuff is to use the minimal needed to achieve a results not just throwing a large dosage just because. For most test only cycles that are 12 weeks I reccomend a pct of clomid 75/50/50/25 and nolva 40/20/20/20/10 and that's for something heavier then you are doing and it's tried and true. Also using an AI during pct is a mistake and you are trying to bring your body back to normal not supress and much needed hormone. You have a lot of reading to do and I'm honestly not going to be able to answer everything for you cause you don't have enough base knowledge (not trying to be offence but you just haven't put enough time in learning and you are quite young).
 
first thing I'd recommend is going to a doctor and see if they can help u out. I'd run nolvadex longer personally until it disappears or atleast for a couple months. Not recommending that, but that's what I would do
 

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