DHB for bulking

[88general88]

I’m on week 5 of 750mg DHB and 125mg Test. So far it’s one of the best cycles I’ve done. Making good lean gains. I feel its a lot more androgenic compared to others like primo, EQ and nandrolone. I’ve never been so horny on cycle ever. The biggest problem is pip.

Did you self brew it

 

[88general88]

Hi Lvndead,, I would think twice about not using DHB. I ran it two times myself. Once with a test base and once with tren. I ran it at 600mg/week for 14 weeks. It did not give me a lot of mass gains,, but I was happy with the lean gains it gave me. It really made me look defined. And It sure as hell did not give me hemmroids, no high blood pressure or any side effects,,, except the odd acne here and there. I for sure will do it again in the future. It will give you more quality muscle then what sustanon will. You really have to try various compounds at least once so that you know what they do to you. Now,, if you want mass,,, I would stack DHB (600mg/week) with deca (400mg/week) and a test base for about 14 weeks. An oral like anadrol for the first 5 weeks would be a good ideal. Keep in mind,, millions upon milllions of people have used deca/NPP and damage to blood vessels or arteries or heart is just unheard of,, so you should count yourself as pretty save. Be sure to take omega 3, omega 369, red yeast rice capsules, CoQ10, chromium picolinate along with some cardio,, and your heart and blood vessels should be fine

Did you really just say that dhb is going to give you more QUALITY muscle than Sustanon will?? Lolol, that’s hilarious. What are you basing that on, your cycle of dhb and tren?lol common bro making a comment like that is just plain silly. There is no way that dhb by itself, is going to ever build the same quality muscle as testosterone. PERIOD. Before you make statements like that you should think twice because it strips credit away from everything else you say .

 

[Monstar]

Those nandrolone studies haven't been done on other compounds. You don't know if they are the same or even worse. Also nandrolone has been used in medicine and abused by athletes for the better part of 50 years. Not dropping dead. I'm not saying BS or use with impunity but you are making a comparison which is not at all supported or even addressed.

 

[Hacksaw Jim]

Did you really just say that dhb is going to give you more QUALITY muscle than Sustanon will?? Lolol, that’s hilarious. What are you basing that on, your cycle of dhb and tren?lol common bro making a comment like that is just plain silly. There is no way that dhb by itself, is going to ever build the same quality muscle as testosterone. PERIOD. Before you make statements like that you should think twice because it strips credit away from everything else you say .

No,, I should of been more specific. When you finish a cycle of DHB,, the gains you made will stay with you,, much like EQ would do. With sustanon,, a lot of gains you make with it is water weight, which you will loose when you finish your cycle. Not to mention,, DHB will give you a quality look,, as with sustanon,, that will give you a watery look. Anyone that has done a DHB cycle and and test only cycle will know this. It really comes down to what you are looking for. I prefer a lean bulk look that I know will stay for the most part when I finish my cycle, as opposed to a test cycle which might just allow me to keep 30 percent or less of the gains I make off it.

 

[88general88]

No,, I should of been more specific. When you finish a cycle of DHB,, the gains you made will stay with you,, much like EQ would do. With sustanon,, a lot of gains you make with it is water weight, which you will loose when you finish your cycle. Not to mention,, DHB will give you a quality look,, as with sustanon,, that will give you a watery look. Anyone that has done a DHB cycle and and test only cycle will know this. It really comes down to what you are looking for. I prefer a lean bulk look that I know will stay for the most part when I finish my cycle, as opposed to a test cycle which might just allow me to keep 30 percent or less of the gains I make off it.

Bro you missed the point, you are comparing apples to oranges. You are still trying to defend your statement, saying that all the gains you make from testosterone is water compared to a compound that carries very to little no water gain. Just Incase you decide to make it an issue about sustanon, sustanon is testosterone, test is test. No one is going g to agree with you that dhb carries more quality long Lasting GAins than any ester of Test. If you can’t hold your gains from test then you aren’t using it correctly with out testosterone you would have no muscle. I can understand if you were to say that you prefer dhb to sustanon because of the look it gives you but don’t be so prideful thatyou are you are going to continue to try and make your case.

The fact that you think the majority of the gains made with sustanon are WATER, again, is laughable. Sustanon has a tendency to cause slight edema, MOST compound that give someone the ability to build good quality mass with them will do the same thing. However, it depends on diet buddy. It also depends on the experience of its user. There are plenty of guys that will continue to use high dose of test all the way through cutting for a show.

 

[88general88]

That’s a perspective I’ve never looked at it from. Thanks for that man. Makes total sense.

DHB looks great on paper and what you read on forums about it. But your statement is definitely very valid and I never looked at it that way.

You got it buddy. I like the fact you are open to feedback. Hat says a lot. Recently it seems like people have been posting questions or asking for advice, but In reality they either are cloe
Minded or only want to here certain feedback.

 

[Rosconow]

I,m just finishing a 14 week run of 300mg/ week of dhb, 500mg/ week sust, and 50mg daily proviron. First time i tried dhb, and although i ran it as a recomp, cutting cycle, results were very good . Lost 2+ inches off my waist (had to notch my belt and get some new jeans) and leaned out lots, veins popping everywhere, it was like my past primo runs but way better. I thought the sust might have watered me out, but the dhb shined through.

Just got bloods back and after 12 weeks my hemocrit was at the high end of just acceptable. Another 2 weeks to go.

 

[Tmisatix]

No one mentioned primobolan?

 

[Tmisatix]

It is interesting that you mentioned hemorrhoids as a side of EQ. I have been on a cycle of EQ at about 700mg/wk along with test and NPP for 12 weeks; like the increased vascularity and enhanced look. But I am prone to hemorrhoids and I have noticed hemorrhoids got worse since EQ cycle. Does anyone know and can think of a connection between EQ and hemorrhoids?
In 2 weeks time, I will be starting my cuise;about 150mg/wk of Test Cyp and 400mg/wk of Primo. So, I will see in 8+ weeks if this nasty side disappears or improves.

Eq gave you hemorrhoids? First time I’ve heard this. Guess it has a toxic effect on the GI tract. I’ve never used, but I’m curious

 

[TRT@40]

Eq gave you hemorrhoids? First time I’ve heard this. Guess it has a toxic effect on the GI tract. I’ve never used, but I’m curious

@DuqC mentioned it as a side of Eq on the first page. Perhaps it was a coincidence in my case. As i said earlier, once Eq is mostly out of my system in about 8 weeks and situation improves then I can infer Eq was at play.

 

[Tmisatix]

@DuqC mentioned it as a side of Eq on the first page. Perhaps it was a coincidence in my case. As i said earlier, once Eq is mostly out of my system in about 8 weeks and situation improves then I can infer Eq was at play.

That’s really weird. Anxiety increase , endless appetite(can be good or bad, depending on individual, blood lipid issues, etc) Glad it subsided after stopping. The bp/hematocrit issues are really scary. Some people say it’s mild in terms of physique effects , so I’d rather go with something else. It is a vet medication, though so it’s definitely having strange effects in humans.

 

[Hacksaw Jim]

Bro you missed the point, you are comparing apples to oranges. You are still trying to defend your statement, saying that all the gains you make from testosterone is water compared to a compound that carries very to little no water gain. Just Incase you decide to make it an issue about sustanon, sustanon is testosterone, test is test. No one is going g to agree with you that dhb carries more quality long Lasting GAins than any ester of Test. If you can’t hold your gains from test then you aren’t using it correctly with out testosterone you would have no muscle. I can understand if you were to say that you prefer dhb to sustanon because of the look it gives you but don’t be so prideful thatyou are you are going to continue to try and make your case.

The fact that you think the majority of the gains made with sustanon are WATER, again, is laughable. Sustanon has a tendency to cause slight edema, MOST compound that give someone the ability to build good quality mass with them will do the same thing. However, it depends on diet buddy. It also depends on the experience of its user. There are plenty of guys that will continue to use high dose of test all the way through cutting for a show.

This is the thing,,, everybody will react differently to test. On 500mg/week, some will aromatize, some won't, some get bloated and some don't. Just because you get quality muscle mass (ie, non water weight) with test,, it doesn't necessarly mean everybody will get quality mass from it. Everyone reacts differently to a particular steroid. You just admitted that 3 different people in this thread had different views on DHB. I was just influencing the OP to try DHB and make a determination for himself if he wants to continue using it in the future. I am pretty sure he had to make a determination on how to properly use test in the future on his first test cycle,, just like I had to do. Also,, an AI plays a big difference in your cycle outcome. Another thing,,, you will notice that test is always used with another higher quality compound by bodybuilders. If it is so great on its own,, then why bother stacking with something else? Another thing,,, you never hear bodybuilders talk of test in high regards. You hear of bodybuilders talking about tren, primo, anavar, winstrol, and DHB (in this thread) in high regards,, but not test. I guess most bodybuilders are not to intrigued by test. But you sure seem to be. And if you are,, then by all means keep using it,, and on my part I will not ever use it on its own,, but stacked low dose with another high dosed compound in a cycle. And also,, I do get more QUALITY gains from DHB then what I get from test. All Im saying is if something works in a certain manner for you,, then do not assume it works in the same manner for everyone else. You admitted in a post above that you have never used DHB. I suggest you try it first before judging it

 

[AlwaysHungry]

Test is the foundation of a bodybuilder. Test and GH plays the key role on how big you're going to be. We stack it with other AAS for different benefits and more anabolism with lower andrigenic effects but test is you're base gonna determine how big you're going to get. Of course if you start at higher bf you'll be disappoint. Test won't make you look pretty but it will pack on the mass higher dosages need GH in the blood.
If you cant tolerate testosterone your other option/base for bulking is Nandrolone of course you won't see the same gains if not stacked with a respectable test dosage but it gets the job done for I individuals who cant tolerate test.
Test water bloof has to do with your lbm if you dont have enough lbm to support let's say 1g of test boom you're going to be water balloon full of sides. But if you continue to use testosterone you'll see by the time you tolerate it better less water less sides as lbm increases sides and water goes down. 500-600mg for 90-95kg athlete you want more ? Need to inject more testosterone

 

[LvnDead]

You got it buddy. I like the fact you are open to feedback. Hat says a lot. Recently it seems like people have been posting questions or asking for advice, but In reality they either are cloe
Minded or only want to here certain feedback.

I enjoy learning. Especially about compounds I’m putting into my body and I have set some high goals for myself in the classic physique class. So I’m willing to learn and listen to anyone who has more experience or knowledge on a topic. I still may experiment with dhb, idk if it’ll be this run or not yet. I have time to get it in place. Still in this cutting/priming phase.

 

[LvnDead]

I,m just finishing a 14 week run of 300mg/ week of dhb, 500mg/ week sust, and 50mg daily proviron. First time i tried dhb, and although i ran it as a recomp, cutting cycle, results were very good . Lost 2+ inches off my waist (had to notch my belt and get some new jeans) and leaned out lots, veins popping everywhere, it was like my past primo runs but way better. I thought the sust might have watered me out, but the dhb shined through.

Just got bloods back and after 12 weeks my hemocrit was at the high end of just acceptable. Another 2 weeks to go.

How have gains been? Put in some size while dropping waist?

 

[LvnDead]

No one mentioned primobolan?

Definitely interested in it. But didn’t know if it’s worth the money for a bulk. Was definitely gonna run precontest.

 

[88general88]

This is the thing,,, everybody will react differently to test. On 500mg/week, some will aromatize, some won't, some get bloated and some don't. Just because you get quality muscle mass (ie, non water weight) with test,, it doesn't necessarly mean everybody will get quality mass from it. Everyone reacts differently to a particular steroid. You just admitted that 3 different people in this thread had different views on DHB. I was just influencing the OP to try DHB and make a determination for himself if he wants to continue using it in the future. I am pretty sure he had to make a determination on how to properly use test in the future on his first test cycle,, just like I had to do. Also,, an AI plays a big difference in your cycle outcome. Another thing,,, you will notice that test is always used with another higher quality compound by bodybuilders. If it is so great on its own,, then why bother stacking with something else? Another thing,,, you never hear bodybuilders talk of test in high regards. You hear of bodybuilders talking about tren, primo, anavar, winstrol, and DHB (in this thread) in high regards,, but not test. I guess most bodybuilders are not to intrigued by test. But you sure seem to be. And if you are,, then by all means keep using it,, and on my part I will not ever use it on its own,, but stacked low dose with another high dosed compound in a cycle. And also,, I do get more QUALITY gains from DHB then what I get from test. All Im saying is if something works in a certain manner for you,, then do not assume it works in the same manner for everyone else. You admitted in a post above that you have never used DHB. I suggest you try it first before judging it

I had a response all written out for you but decided to delete it.

You are a fucking idiot. Sorry but you are and every single one of your replies to this thread is a perfect example why. I pity the fool that decides to ponder any of the shit you advise. There isn’t one thing you have said that I agree with. You rambled yourself stupid. Cheers

 

[balco]

Never said any were or are safe lol. But when evidence shows that nandrolone is far more damaging to vessels and heart then that’s a path I personally rather not go down. I love npp, used it 2 times. Tren I don’t handle the sides well and the wife bans me from taking it lol. So I’m sorry if my statement come off as me asking which is safer. I know they all do damage and all have pros and cons. I just simply wanted to see if anyone has ran DHB just along test and had good results. If not what other compounds would guys recommend other than tren or a nandrolone.

Nandrolone has far more research done on the effects of it vs other hormones so it makes sense that the side effects would be more widely publicized.

 

[Hacksaw Jim]

I had a response all written out for you but decided to delete it.

You are a fucking idiot. Sorry but you are and every single one of your replies to this thread is a perfect example why. I pity the fool that decides to ponder any of the shit you advise. There isn’t one thing you have said that I agree with. You rambled yourself stupid. Cheers

Okay,,, whatever,, you crystal meth addict. Glad you supposedly cleaned yourself up

 

[Tmisatix]

Definitely interested in it. But didn’t know if it’s worth the money for a bulk. Was definitely gonna run precontest.

Ah , very nice brother. What division ? I’d definitely save it for closer to the show than, so you have a more sensitive response. I’ve read it’s pretty versatile in terms of muscle gain, cutting, recomp, etc. also, everyone wants it due to its low side effect profile. For all the experienced guys, does primo actually hold low side effects when it’s used as the main compound? Is this true? Seems like test is promoted as such a low side effect compound yet it does hold some significant sides in certain doses. Other compounds such as primo, nandrolone, etc, were made to be better than test but with less of the DHT/estrogen side effects