Dianabol only Cycle

[underworldmagic]

Hi,

I have been training since i was 16 and now i am 22, Im "new" to the steroid world, and currently have been researching the subject, ive got a copy of anabolics 2005, and also been reading this forum

I have read on this forum how much people try to avoid the Dianabol only cycle, but reading Anabolics 2005, its stated (in the cycling steroids section) that its ok to take dianabol on its own and it is not necessary to cycle with another steroid. He has written that even by taking 5mg - 1 tablet (for a beginner like myself- not even taken steroids) there will be results.

say for example i was to take between 5 - 20 mg per day, on its own, what effects will this have? i understand there maybe some estrogen problems, anything else? gains, quick loss of gains?

Also i have seen a supplement called Animal M-Stak, which containes estrogen blockers, and also Milk Thistle to help the liver. Has anyone come across this, and will it be any use in a steroid cycle? i dont know if the amount of these in the Animal M-Stak will be any use, how much will you actually need of estrogen blockers, and Milk Thistle to have some effect on a steroid cycle.

is there any way of cycling Dianabol without any injectables?

By the way i have the pink Dianabol tablets by British Dispensary

Thanks for you help,

 

[Deacon]

sure you can run d-bol alone - and you will see gains - but you will alsow atch them disapear post cycle - you need to do more research on d-bol and what it does

 

[Bod]

Firstly, well done on doing some research!

Well, the way you have described taking dbol is a good example of running it without injectables, run it on it's own! I know people have done dbol only cycles, and although they've had some reasonable gains, due to water retention etc they seem to lose a lot of the weight quickly, so you'll probably find yourself looking for your next cycle very quickly. I personally wouldn't run it on it's own, but Anabolics 2005 included, you will find some people who support it.

Out of curiosity, what's wrong with using injectables? As a first cycle, I would recommend 500mg of Test (Test E / Sust etc), so thats only 2 shots a week. Gains will be better, more likely to be able to keep them and far less harmful on your body.

 

[underworldmagic]

Thanks for all your replies,

what's wrong with using injectables?

I dont have a problem with injectables, i was just curious as what other oral alternatives there are. i understand the most sime cycle will be dbol and deca.

In doing a dbol only cycle (5-15mg) is there still a major risk of estrogen induced effects?

Also, what do you think about the Animal M-Stak? is there enough estrogen blocker to block the estrogen produced.

Thanks again

 

[Bod]

Dbol can cause estrogen related side effects, so Gyno, acne or some hairloss can occur

It's not that I'm not prepared to give new products a chance, but nolvadex / clomid work fine, so I probably wouldn't stray from using them.

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[underworldmagic]

thanks for your reply,

ive done abit more reading and understand why i must take nolvadex / clomid as well along with dbol.

In terms of gains, when someone is on a dbol and nolvadex stack, how long do the gains actually last, before someone will have to cycle again.

which do you prefer nolvadex or clomid ?

i dont think i can find a sample stack using dbol and one of the estrogen blockers, what will a example stack be like?

I really appreciate your help,

 

[THL]

You wont lose the actual muscle gained any faster than what you would with a test cycle. What you will lose fast will be water weight and this tends to really bother some people and they want to get back on as soon as posible. The reality is though, once you lose all that water, most people will actually think you look better. A lot of it is psycological.

You can control some of the water gains by using nolva at 10-20mg/day or arimidex at .25mg/day. You will not appear to gain as much but more of what you do gain will be actual muscle mass.

All that being said, I would never do a dbol only cycle. The shit makes my lower back hurt and affects my workouts too much. Some people have reported success with only taking it on workout days, but I've never tried this. I guess in the end, it's up to you. You will see some gains and if you do proper PCT, you will keep some of them. I just feel there are better options out there than taking dbol alone.

 

[jasthace]

Me and my mates used to take Ddol by itself,and we'd get reasonable results,ie a course of three hundred tabs.{two hundred is a tease},we'd gain five to seven kg and it looks good,you pump up really well.But after a few courses it seemed that they just did'nt do enough....and I would take 12 tabs a day...after that I just did'nt buy the stuff any more.The strength increase was steady and I did think that I'd look better a few weeks after the course with the loss of water retention.I'd keep about 3-4 kg{itslike three steps forward one step back}.There are a number of ways you can take the tabs,a popular way used to be to pyrmid the dose up then back down again,over a given number of weeks.If i was to do a course of Dbol again I'd just divide the number of tabs I had,by the number of weeks,then days,and I'd have my daily dose,split it in half and take half in the morning half 12hrs later.I would take 30mg a day for 8 weeks.
I dont recommend the use of oral hormone supps. injectable is the way to go,it's gives a more stable effect and is alot less harmfull on the liver,which is a very vital organ.If you too scared of a needle you shouldnt be,that there needle is saving your liver! or if you can't handle the pain try pin pong......

 

[shyheim1]

Me and my mates used to take Ddol by itself,and we'd get reasonable results,ie a course of three hundred tabs.{two hundred is a tease},we'd gain five to seven kg and it looks good,you pump up really well.But after a few courses it seemed that they just did'nt do enough....and I would take 12 tabs a day...after that I just did'nt buy the stuff any more.The strength increase was steady and I did think that I'd look better a few weeks after the course with the loss of water retention.I'd keep about 3-4 kg{itslike three steps forward one step back}.There are a number of ways you can take the tabs,a popular way used to be to pyrmid the dose up then back down again,over a given number of weeks.If i was to do a course of Dbol again I'd just divide the number of tabs I had,by the number of weeks,then days,and I'd have my daily dose,split it in half and take half in the morning half 12hrs later.I would take 30mg a day for 8 weeks.
I dont recommend the use of oral hormone supps. injectable is the way to go,it's gives a more stable effect and is alot less harmfull on the liver,which is a very vital organ.If you too scared of a needle you shouldnt be,that there needle is saving your liver! or if you can't handle the pain try pin pong......

Perfectly put, look at this exp with dbol and listen to his advice.

 

[mr.nitro]

Hi,

I have been training since i was 16 and now i am 22, Im "new" to the steroid world, and currently have been researching the subject, ive got a copy of anabolics 2005, and also been reading this forum

I have read on this forum how much people try to avoid the Dianabol only cycle, but reading Anabolics 2005, its stated (in the cycling steroids section) that its ok to take dianabol on its own and it is not necessary to cycle with another steroid. He has written that even by taking 5mg - 1 tablet (for a beginner like myself- not even taken steroids) there will be results.

say for example i was to take between 5 - 20 mg per day, on its own, what effects will this have? i understand there maybe some estrogen problems, anything else? gains, quick loss of gains?

Also i have seen a supplement called Animal M-Stak, which containes estrogen blockers, and also Milk Thistle to help the liver. Has anyone come across this, and will it be any use in a steroid cycle? i dont know if the amount of these in the Animal M-Stak will be any use, how much will you actually need of estrogen blockers, and Milk Thistle to have some effect on a steroid cycle.

is there any way of cycling Dianabol without any injectables?

By the way i have the pink Dianabol tablets by British Dispensary

Thanks for you help,

dianabol is garbage without testosterone.(garbage anyway if you ask me, made me feel like crap and bloated)

test is best

 

[underworldmagic]

thanks for taking time out and replying everyone, i really appreciate it.

Me and my mates used to take Ddol by itself,and we'd get reasonable results

12 tabs a day

using this much, 12 tabs a day on its own, was this not toxic to your liver? and also estrogen, you took nothing to keep estrogen at bay? or anything to maintin your liver?

 

[Deacon]

40-50 mgs per day is all you need

 

[jasthace]

The only reason we'd take Dbol by itself, is that's all we could get,the dealers make a handsome profit of that stuff.We did'nt have internet connections back in those days!,so had to rely on guys bringing the stuff in from over seas. No one would bring in nolvadex or any form or pct,so it was natural recovery,{lucky we had naturally enormous balls of steel},none of us got any bitch tits from the Dbol,{my mate got it when he started taking around the 2000mg of test a week!}.I did'nt feel that I was getting any significant liver problems,but the only way I would monitor this is by how thirsty I felt.
Top marks for asking all the right questions.Now days you have all the necessary resorces at hand through the internet so use them if you are going to take the gear.

 

[underworldmagic]

thanks i really appreciate the reply.

I think i will have some Nolvadex on hand. By the way which is better Clomid or Nolvadex?

 

[shyheim1]

thanks i really appreciate the reply.

I think i will have some Nolvadex on hand. By the way which is better Clomid or Nolvadex?

doesnt matter its all preference,clomid can have some nasty side effects.
I would just go with nolva.