Difference between GSO and MCT Test E 250mg Labmax

[mercury]

that's wrong all day long in my opinion since labmax never was for testing purity... so how don't I understand?

you are correct it is simple pass or fail test. but there is always question what if we have something between, then the results are open for interpretation that they gear might not be total bunk.

 

[Notits]

I didn't say all sources for one thing...I didn't come to a conclusion it was more of a question...Also there are bunches and bunches of people labmaxing stuff and if it isn't the right glow the dogs chime in UNDERDOSED...In reality nobody should be saying that because they do not know if its underdosed by any means...But hey...If it feels better to go with the flow then by all means....; )

I didn't say all sources either, where did you see that? If your statement was meant to be a question, use a question mark.
What you did was absolutely draw a conclusion -
2. a judgment or decision reached by reasoning.
It makes no mention of the strength or quality of the reasoning, so your definitely in the clear there, you can thread your inferences together with the weakest of logical thread and still appeal to the weak minded, maybe even still keep sales up.
You still fail to address my previous statement in regards to blood work and floaties. These are the issues that bring down labs. Not labmax. Instead you misdirect with ad hominem attacks on the group at meso, specifically those that are very keen to spot shills and scam artists.
I find it awe inspiring that you even have the nerve to post your slimy shit anywhere on meso since your affiliations have been revealed, you are one of the lowest forms of life. Just a step below the guy who likes his underage girls unconscious. I draw that conclusion based on the goosebumps and blood pressure spike I get when I read the insulting phony bullshit you post here. I know your kind, you haven't fooled us.

 

[Johnson513]

I hear what all you guys are saying pertaining to labmax being a simple pass/fail test. This is even stated on the website as shown here:


But let me play devils advocate for un momento here. LM states about 15 lines down, in some cases, purity can be discovered. Shown here:


IMO LM is referring to Test-E in particular because when you watch the video, they mention the word "Concentration" a number of times. They show 1 drop compared to 4 drops (or some number like that). This is shown here:





And a couple more here:



So, do I think it is a pass/fail test only? Yes
Do I think sometimes one can tell a higher concentration level with a certain compound? Yes
Am I personally certified to be this judge? No, but I don't mind posting videos and letting us all come to our own conclusions...

 

[manafest]

I didn't say all sources either, where did you see that? If your statement was meant to be a question, use a question mark.
What you did was absolutely draw a conclusion -
2. a judgment or decision reached by reasoning.
It makes no mention of the strength or quality of the reasoning, so your definitely in the clear there, you can thread your inferences together with the weakest of logical thread and still appeal to the weak minded, maybe even still keep sales up.
You still fail to address my previous statement in regards to blood work and floaties. These are the issues that bring down labs. Not labmax. Instead you misdirect with ad hominem attacks on the group at meso, specifically those that are very keen to spot shills and scam artists.
I find it awe inspiring that you even have the nerve to post your slimy shit anywhere on meso since your affiliations have been revealed, you are one of the lowest forms of life. Just a step below the guy who likes his underage girls unconscious. I draw that conclusion based on the goosebumps and blood pressure spike I get when I read the insulting phony bullshit you post here. I know your kind, you haven't fooled us.

My affiliations? I can quite assure you I have 0 on meso or other boards... and what phony info bullshit info have I posted? My opions may not always be right or what you agree with but I assure you don't see me posting phony information with intentions of hurting anyone or just parroting stuff that has been broscience for many years... I will however sit and watch many others here to do that that's your choice...

 

[manafest]

I hear what all you guys are saying pertaining to labmax being a simple pass/fail test. This is even stated on the website as shown here:
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But let me play devils advocate for un momento here. LM states about 15 lines down, in some cases, purity can be discovered. Shown here:
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IMO LM is referring to Test-E in particular because when you watch the video, they mention the word "Concentration" a number of times. They show 1 drop compared to 4 drops (or some number like that). This is shown here:
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And a couple more here:
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So, do I think it is a pass/fail test only? Yes
Do I think sometimes one can tell a higher concentration level with a certain compound? Yes
Am I personally certified to be this judge? No, but I don't mind posting videos and letting us all come to our own conclusions...

Thx for posting that ...sheds more light

 

[mercury]

IMO LM is referring to Test-E in particular because when you watch the video, they mention the word "Concentration" a number of times. They show 1 drop compared to 4 drops (or some number like that). This is shown here:

I have personally noticed over the last years I have been using this test that you can get more information than just simple pass or fail.

But we cannot expect simple labmax test vial to be mass spec, it does exactly what it was designed for and some people have too many expectations. If you have good gear it will show it.

If you want detailed analysis then it will cost you at the lab anything between $200 - $800, labmax $5 test vial cannot do it.

 

[FuriousWO]

@jonsal bro I jumped all over your shit a while back in the Astro thread and it seems I was wrong about you. Sorry man hope you can accept my apology

 

[Millard]

From "bunk" to "fire", just by switching the carrier. These tests were brewed in the same exact manner, using the same raws and quantity. The ONLY difference, is the oil.

Thanks for starting this thread! Great information. For the record, @Bill Roberts agrees that the chemical properties of the carriers are influencing the labmax color results and not just the steroid hormone. MESO will publish an article on this soon. He feels different excipients in tablets can influence the results as well.

 

[Millard]

I agree, guys have thrown gear in the trash, because of a "bad" labmax. Goes to show, bloods will be the only real determining factor in concentration.

Really surprised this had not been discovered before, although I am glad I came across it and hope this helps somehow.

Not blood lab results. What you really need are HPLC-UV/GC/MS/NMR type of lab analyses.

 

[jonsal]

Thanks for starting this thread! Great information. For the record, @Bill Roberts agrees that the chemical properties of the carriers are influencing the labmax color results and not just the steroid hormone. MESO will publish an article on this soon. He feels different excipients in tablets can influence the results as well.

Glad to help! Can't wait to read the article...can you please post a link here when available? This way we don't miss it and any future googlers can find it too.

 

[jonsal]

Has anyone done any further tests with MCT as a carrier?

 

[OdieM]

Has anyone done any further tests with MCT as a carrier?

Kind of. BamBam and myself had the excat same raws. He tested the testE raw and I brewed the same testE raw with MCT and tested it. All it did was prove what you said to be true. MCT magnifiers the hormone.

 

[bdg77]

Not sure if anyone will find this interesting but here is what I've found as what these tests might possibly contain. I see a reoccuring substance: vanillin.

Found in: Journal of Pharmacy and Pharmacology vol.18 issue 1:
The detection and identification of synthetic steroids in horse urine. (1965-66)

A scheme for the detection of synthetic steroids which could be used in the “doping” of race-horses is described. The method involves extraction from urine into ethyl acetate: ether (1:1) followed by initial two-dimensional thin-layer chromatography using (1) ethyl acetate (2) methylene chloride: dioxan: water (100:50:50). Elution of the ultraviolet absorbing spots for extinction measurements is followed by further one way thin-layer chromatography as free alcohols in amyl acetate: acetone (1:1). Further chromatography of the steroid alcohols in chloroform: ether: water (80:20:0·5) on formamide-impregnated plates and chromatography of the acetates in ether helps to identify the unknown steroid. Additional identification is made by colour reactions with (1) a tetrazolium reagent (2) VANILLIN: perchloric acid.

Found in: TLC Visualization Reagents

Vanillin / sulfuric acid
For detection of steroids, Note, this reagent can only be used with G (gypsum) binder plates since it will char the
polymer binders in the harder layer plates.
Spray with a 1% solution of vanillin in conc. sulfuric acid and at 120 C until maximum color formation.
Another formulation of this reagent: 0.5g vanillin in 100ml sulfuric acid/ethanol (40:10).

Always remember to look under normal light and also short and long wavelength UV light so as not to miss any
possibilities.
Many of the reagents for these visualizers can be found in the EMD Chemicals catalog or on the website
(http://www.emdchemicals.com (www.emdchemicals.com)).

Found in: CHEM 536 - Thin Layer Cromatography
Abstracted from Searle Separations Department Procedure SEP-120
Introduction
General Procedure for the preparation and application for the following TLC visualization reagents
Vanillin/Sulfuric acid
General detection method for steroids, higher alcohols, phenols, and essential oils.
Phosphoric acid
For detection of sterols, STEROIDS, and bile acids
...Results: Sterols, steroids and bile acids and bile acids produce various colors under visible and UV light.

Vanadium (V) / sulfuric acid
For detection of carbohydrates, glycols, reducing carboxylic acids, STEROIDS, antioxidants, vitamins, phenols, aromatic amines, antihistamines

Re: Ultraviolet light from wikipedia:

Ultraviolet A UVA 400 – 315 nm 3.10 – 3.94 eV long wave

Ultraviolet B UVB 315 – 280 nm 3.94 – 4.43 eV medium wave

 

[crossfitisgay]

1/2 price labmax full kit (no fancy carry case) for anyone who wants it~!!!! fuck this time consuming wishy washy shit

 

[MANWHORE]

Labmax is GAY!!!
Gay Gay Gay haha

 

[jonsal]

Thanks for starting this thread! Great information. For the record, @Bill Roberts agrees that the chemical properties of the carriers are influencing the labmax color results and not just the steroid hormone. MESO will publish an article on this soon. He feels different excipients in tablets can influence the results as well.

Did this ever happen?

 

[MANWHORE]

Haha who caaaaaarsss!!!!!

Deca
Test E
Adex
And dbol right before my little pansy Mickey Mouse workouts
That last 20min three days a week and I look like a fuckin UFC fighter ready to rumble ..
I'd get my ass handed to me first round without a doubt ...

BUT I look good and this is bodybuilding not .. body moving or running ..
My stamina could use some help but I will get to that when I have time ...

 

[Millard]

Did this ever happen?

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