DNP + SLIN

[peeepo2]

Why many people choise to use DNP and Slin together? Where is the worth?

“DNP certainly does block the anabolic effects of exogenous insulin as it sabotages the proton pump and interferes with Pi groups' uptake into the mitochondrial matrix, reducing substrates for ATPase.

Growth requires ATP. The practical purpose of exogenous insulin is growth. DNP works at cross-purposes with this (its purpose is fat loss and it's a very blunt instrument at that).”

 

[Palifter]

I don’t think this is super common practice nowadays. It’s been used in a contest prep setting by some in the past but the more widely used combo is Clen + T3 + slin

 

[Doodle]

Man I was a big fan of this until I went blind with cataracts. In 2 months I was down to no light perception. I was a surgery coordinator for an eye surgeon and my cataracts were the worst I’ve ever seen. Thankfully my boss was able to do my surgery. But damn was that scary.

 

[ICBM TANK]

Why many people choise to use DNP and Slin together? Where is the worth?

“DNP certainly does block the anabolic effects of exogenous insulin as it sabotages the proton pump and interferes with Pi groups' uptake into the mitochondrial matrix, reducing substrates for ATPase.

Growth requires ATP. The practical purpose of exogenous insulin is growth. DNP works at cross-purposes with this (its purpose is fat loss and it's a very blunt instrument at that).”

people out here trying to die real fucking quick smh

 

[Ryu82]

... and my cataracts were the worst I’ve ever seen.

Thats brutal. I was going to throw a joke in there about being blind but still able to see your own cataracts but honestly just glad you were able to recover from it.

 

[Doodle]

Thats brutal. I was going to throw a joke in there about being blind but still able to see your own cataracts but honestly just glad you were able to recover from it.

You can joke! I can see better now than before I went blind. And I won’t have to have the surgery when I’m older. Cataracts don’t grow back. It was expensive, but an easy fix.

 

[hudson98]

people out here trying to die real fucking quick smh

Agree. I remember when I first started on forums DNP was a no no. Now its the first step in going from 16% to 12%, forget the diet everyone wants to hop on DNP

 

[Pineapples4Puss]

I never understood why people use DNP.

ECA stack with a low dose of tren is always what I would want to do.

I plan on seriously cutting in a few weeks using vyvanse and low dose of tren. I don’t know much about the ECA stacks. Maybe I’ll do that instead.

 

[canadian mutant]

Sounds real safe. Fuck both of those let alone taking them together

 

[crtx]

i'm researching this at the moment what i know so far dnp ability to prevant fat gain during insulin use by messing up the insulin molecule which apparant more difficult to go hypo when used together.

Some stuff about DES (1-3) IGF 10 x stronger than standard IGF-1 when DNP and slin are used. VS GH & Slin produce IGF-1.

Only what i'm reading will test few IU's novo fast acting over the weekend will have sugars drink and lollies on stand by. I'v ran slin many times before i know my carb ratios but could change on DNP.

 

[peeepo2]

zero useful and relevant answers to my question, please refrain from commenting if your intent is to opine on the use of DNP or to recommend alternative products, i asked a specific question

 

[Palifter]

OP, we want to see pics of your current physique.

 

[peeepo2]

OP, we want to see pics of your current physique.

Like if someone cares about you . Please go away

 

[Palifter]

Like if someone cares about you . Please go away

Thought so. Good luck with your goals brother.

 

[Type-IIx]

That's a wise quote from a wise man.

I could tell you what the argument on behalf of combined slin & DNP would be from certain highly regarded bodybuilding coaches that essentially use slin year round, but then I'd have to counter that with the evidence against it.

Besides, I'm not going to make arguments on others' behalf - if only to highlight the fact that virtually nobody actually has a rationale for what amounts to, in practice, throwing the kitchen sink of drugs at every problem under the bullshit rationale that more is always better.

 

[EJ1739]

I never understood why people use DNP.

ECA stack with a low dose of tren is always what I would want to do.

I plan on seriously cutting in a few weeks using vyvanse and low dose of tren. I don’t know much about the ECA stacks. Maybe I’ll do that instead.

Have you taken Vyvanse before? It has really messed me up to the point where I can't train at the moment as I use it for ADD. If you do I would suggest the lowest dose possible. Amazing for appetite suppression, but when you stop taking it you could eat 10,000 calories and not feel satiated. Also, the fatigue when discontinuing is awful. Your sleep will be messed up and all over the place whilst taking it.

Just thought I would let you know as its a gift and a curse for me.
P.S. If you drink on it you can get aggressive for no reason, bit like Tren

 

[Pineapples4Puss]

Have you taken Vyvanse before? It has really messed me up to the point where I can't train at the moment as I use it for ADD. If you do I would suggest the lowest dose possible. Amazing for appetite suppression, but when you stop taking it you could eat 10,000 calories and not feel satiated. Also, the fatigue when discontinuing is awful. Your sleep will be messed up and all over the place whilst taking it.

Just thought I would let you know as its a gift and a curse for me.
P.S. If you drink on it you can get aggressive for no reason, bit like Tren

Yeah I have many times. I take 30 mg I stopped after 6 months of classes and really didn’t even. Notice.

I’ve had a script forever. Just rarely ever used it when out of school.

I also love using it to party every once in a while. Better than sucking a bag up my nose

My use is purely performance for work and studying though and I will never go over 30 mg. When it stops working I take a break for a month. It makes me way less agitated compared to adderall

 

[peeepo2]

1) DNP does block the release of insulin and prevents a key component of the electron transport chain (ATP synthase, remember?), it does nothing to prevent the aforementioned extremely anabolic affect of insulin. Therefore, when you use DNP, you should be administering insulin at the same time. The exogenous insulin will still work its anabolic magic while the DNP burns off reams of body fat through the resultant metabolic increase.

2) DNP certainly does block the anabolic effects of exogenous insulin as it sabotages the proton pump and interferes with Pi groups' uptake into the mitochondrial matrix, reducing substrates for ATPase.

In the first point, it is stated that the use of exogenous insulin is really useful and keeps the anabolism active, while the fat loss generated by the metabolic increase produced by DNP continues incessantly.

In the second point, however, it is stated that DNP renders the administration of exogenous insulin useless.

Which of these two statements is closest to the reality of the facts?

 

[supremedonkey]

You can't even train properly on dnp so what's the point.

 

[crtx]

1) DNP does block the release of insulin and prevents a key component of the electron transport chain (ATP synthase, remember?), it does nothing to prevent the aforementioned extremely anabolic affect of insulin. Therefore, when you use DNP, you should be administering insulin at the same time. The exogenous insulin will still work its anabolic magic while the DNP burns off reams of body fat through the resultant metabolic increase.

2) DNP certainly does block the anabolic effects of exogenous insulin as it sabotages the proton pump and interferes with Pi groups' uptake into the mitochondrial matrix, reducing substrates for ATPase.

In the first point, it is stated that the use of exogenous insulin is really useful and keeps the anabolism active, while the fat loss generated by the metabolic increase produced by DNP continues incessantly.

In the second point, however, it is stated that DNP renders the administration of exogenous insulin useless.

Which of these two statements is closest to the reality of the facts?

Correct statement 1 don't believe statement 2 is true body blocks endogenous does nothing to exogenous.

Also read body is a state of hyperglycemic while on DNP due to blocking effects of endogenous slin.