DNP

[jabo]

Been lurking around here a little bit thought I'd ask a question. I'm doing a 21 day cycle of DNP (legit dnp, known and popular source). Anyway it's been 9 days and Iv lost about 5lbs. My question is, when I'm off will I end up losing more weight because of the water weight loss? I also heard you gain some back because your muscles refill it's glycogen ( I think that's the term). What exactly happens? My cycle is:
Days 1-4 250
Days.5-14 500
Days 15-21 750

 

[ATodd]

Believe it or not, a long time member of this board developed cataracts from DNP..

I do benlieve it, it's one of the possible side effects. Along with bp issues and overheating, yeah, this is what the obese should be taken. I remember that wrester guy on here was begging me to tell him what is was, didn't tell him out of moral obligations.
atoddd

 

[AnabolicMindset]

Go look at the post I just put up on DNP. You do not have to run astronomical doses of it for it to work. 1 cap a day is fine and will yield amazing results if your diet is clean.

 

[bigK]

Yes it is poison and yes it is harmless. If you are a real faggot without knowledge than it's dangerous. It's the dosage which makes a medication be a medication or a poison, so this metabolic poison can be a medication if you have the knowledge and don't jump in into 800mg ED cycles.

Just look up the definition of "poison". It's only the way of acting of the compounds. Your body can't combat it by itself and has to wait until everything is gone due to halflife. A compound which causes damage and this damage here is that the cells need much more oxygen to produce the same energy. If you drop it this sort of damage is gone after 1-2 weeks.

That message was for that ridiculous clown.

 

[brutus79]

Yes it is poison and yes it is harmless. If you are a real faggot without knowledge than it's dangerous. It's the dosage which makes a medication be a medication or a poison, so this metabolic poison can be a medication if you have the knowledge and don't jump in into 800mg ED cycles.

Just look up the definition of "poison". It's only the way of acting of the compounds. Your body can't combat it by itself and has to wait until everything is gone due to halflife. A compound which causes damage and this damage here is that the cells need much more oxygen to produce the same energy. If you drop it this sort of damage is gone after 1-2 weeks.

That message was for that ridiculous clown.

I can only assume you mean me cupcake. So It is harmles- unless you are one that develops cataracts? Then are you a faggot? Do you think everyone reacts the same to this compound? Or maybe some have adverse reactions even at low doses? Or are these reactions simply because the person hasn't read the right books or articles?

Look up the definition of "mistake". It would be what your wise ass just made- exactly like your mother's decision to not swallow the load that contained the retarded sperm that created you. She swallowed thousands of loads before and after that but she let that one faulty shot land in her cum dumpster to make a little douchebag like you. Sucks.

 

[bigK]

If one has no arguments, just go personal. Very rational thinking, congrats!

There is for every compound a restpossibility for a very negative side. You can even die from acetylsalicylic acid. It's just the dosage what makes something a medication or a poison.

50mg of DNP to try for 7 days won't kill anybody nor will the grand part get cataracts. Just because a friend of you got it it doesn't mean everybody will catch this side.

Please just shut your mouth if you cannot argument scientifically and have to go on a personal, emotional base where you insult people due to the lack of your knowledge.

Hope I find here an ignore button.

 

[Millard]

@bigK It's the relative safety of DNP when compared to other drugs that is the issue. And that sucks!

Yes, find @Conciliator and welcome him back to MESO!

 

[brutus79]

I can only assume you mean me cupcake. So It is harmles- unless you are one that develops cataracts? Then are you a faggot? Do you think everyone reacts the same to this compound? Or maybe some have adverse reactions even at low doses? Or are these reactions simply because the person hasn't read the right books or articles?

Look up the definition of "mistake". It would be what your wise ass just made- exactly like your mother's decision to not swallow the load that contained the retarded sperm that created you. She swallowed thousands of loads before and after that but she let that one faulty shot land in her cum dumpster to make a little douchebag like you. Sucks.

So calling me a "real faggot" and a "ridiculous clown" was scientific? You don't say. I would also hazard a guess that we have a doctor or two hear who just might argue that scientifically dnp is not harmless... but keep telling everyone it's fine. I'm sure your opinion holds a lot of weight because you kb ow the name of an older member.

 

[ironwill1951]

big k as long as your giving definitions look up the words cardio and diet , 2 things you seem to be overlooking , get off the couch and on a treadmill...

 

[Zaphod]

Idk I think he might be right. Chemotherapy is pretty safe now if its administered and monitored correctly, and I've seen people SHED weight on that stuff!

 

[TheSpectre]

DNP is safer than Clenbuterol if you know what the hell you are doing. Clen hardens your heart permanently one of the main reasons it's not approved for medical use in many countries including the United States.

 

[beedix]

Lots of bro science going on in here. Don't assume anyone is correct....possibly very dangerous to not very dangerous. There is not enough data to prove either way.

Consider the worst case possible before considering DNP until proven otherwise.

 

[ATodd]

• I like to use gamma-hydroxybuterate as a sleep aid. Just because something works and some have used it without issue, does not make it safe. Just knowing the mechanisim of how DNP does what it does scares the shit out of me.
• atodd

 

[AnabolicMindset]

This is not a shot at anyone but unless you have done dnp chances are your just regurgitating something you read on the internet. I know tons of guys that have done it (including myself) none dead and I've seen some guys use dosages of upwards in the 800mg. Also knew a guy who did 400mg a day for 8 weeks.

 

[Millard]

This is not a shot at anyone but unless you have done dnp chances are your just regurgitating something you read on the internet. I know tons of guys that have done it (including myself) none dead and I've seen some guys use dosages of upwards in the 800mg. Also knew a guy who did 400mg a day for 8 weeks.

I am not one to demonize drugs. And I'm not going to demonize DNP either. But I think you are in serious denial about what several members are trying to tell you.

Your anecdotal evidence that "tons of guys" have used DNP and survived doesn't change the fact that the difference between the lethal dose and the dosages typically used for fat loss isn't that great. The relatively small margin for error should make most people more than a little concerned.

The fact that an individual can use DNP without dying does NOT change the LD.

Let's look at the LDs of other "demonized" drugs. For example, drugs anabolic steroids and marijuana have no LD for all practical purposes. The relative safety of these two drugs compared to DNP is like apples and oranges.

Steroids have side effects. And they can contribute to long-term health problems. But they don't have the potential to kill in the short-term. DNP does.

 

[AnabolicMindset]

I am not one to demonize drugs. And I'm not going to demonize DNP either. But I think you are in serious denial about what several members are trying to tell you.

Your anecdotal evidence that "tons of guys" have used DNP and survived doesn't change the fact that the difference between the lethal dose and the dosages typically used for fat loss isn't that great. The relatively small margin for error should make most people more than a little concerned.

The fact that an individual can use DNP without dying does NOT change the LD.

Let's look at the LDs of other "demonized" drugs. For example, drugs anabolic steroids and marijuana have no LD for all practical purposes. The relative safety of these two drugs compared to DNP is like apples and oranges.

Steroids have side effects. And they can contribute to long-term health problems. But they don't have the potential to kill in the short-term. DNP does.

Millard all I said was someone who hasnt used it shouldnt talk about it. Most guys are just rehashing shit they have read without even using the drug themselves. I've used the drug plenty of times. I'm not saying its not dangerous in the wrong hands however clen is much more dangerous and lots of people use that. I'm just sick of coming on boards and people telling the story of the dnp boogie man without having first hand experience with the drug.

 

[beedix]

Who are you referring to? How do you know if someone has/hasn't used DNP from their post?

Just as often as someone says dnp is the boogie man, you also see people proclaiming it's safe just because some friends used it. That is equally dangerous IMO.

 

[AnabolicMindset]

Who are you referring to? How do you know if someone has/hasn't used DNP from their post?

Just as often as someone says dnp is the boogie man, you also see people proclaiming it's safe just because some friends used it. That is equally dangerous IMO.

Not referring to anyone in particular. Just google DNP fat burner and read the threads. Its mostly a bunch of people that havent used it saying that lazy people use it to get in shape which is not true by any means.

 

[ATodd]

AM not bashing you or anyone that uses DNP, it's works for you guys great. This is an open forum of opions. I have done alot of reasearch on the subject and wont regurgetate what anyone can look up for themselves. My opinion is, after looking at how DNP works at the cellular level, it's not something to tinker around with and it is something i will never try (and i have put my body through a world of hurt in my life). IMHO the cons outweigh the pros. I don't think that all DNP users are fat and lazy, but in the hands of that particular group it could be most dangerous of all.
atodd

 

[AnabolicMindset]

AM not bashing you or anyone that uses DNP, it's works for you guys great. This is an open forum of opions. I have done alot of reasearch on the subject and wont regurgetate what anyone can look up for themselves. My opinion is, after looking at how DNP works at the cellular level, it's not something to tinker around with and it is something i will never try (and i have put my body through a world of hurt in my life). IMHO the cons outweigh the pros. I don't think that all DNP users are fat and lazy, but in the hands of that particular group it could be most dangerous of all.
atodd

Now Todd this is a opinion I respect. The way you broke it down makes total sense and I have nothing but respect for that.