Do I Take Tren

[Motoman22]

Hey guys, I’ve ran 3 cycles and looking to run a 4th this summer. I’ve used Test E, Tbol and Deca as far as roids. I’d like to gain some muscle and get shredded by the end of it. I’m thinking about a 16 week cycle of Test E but I’m not sure what else to use now.

I’m not interested in Dbol due to water retention, not interested in Anadrol due to hepatoxicity. My current thoughts are Tren and Winstrol. I’d run Test E alone the first 2-4 weeks, then run Tren E along with Test E the rest of the cycle and run Winstrol as a finisher from week 9-16.

What do you guys think about the cycle? I’m not sure of the doses I’d use so let me know what you guys think.

 

[Gbro]

First time on tren and your going with enanthate? I chose ace for my first tren run. If things go sideways, I can get out of it quick. If things go well, I'll switch to enanthate next time.

 

[Motoman22]

Only reason I’d rather go with E is so I don’t have to pin as frequently and deal with Tren cough less often. Also because I typically use Test E and I’d just combine them in one syringe twice a week. How did yo like your run with ace?

 

[Rockclimber]

Tren A only for first time use. No longer than 8 weeks either. You will know around week 4 or 5 if Tren is for you! Good luck brother let us know how it goes.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

Tren A for all cycles I say you this different Tren treats me different one cycle is all ok with ace and other cycle is not. You can pin MWF it’s not so bad Tren Ace is painless and you can get away with Tren cough if you pin veeeery slow in glutes.

 

[TheBeat]

The doses would really be dependant on you- your past experience and results, and particular desires and goals of the cycle. I personally find some sides worse with tren Enanthate over Acetate which goes against what many say- no cough with e, but everything else is about the same with cardio being effected more to me. I gave up tren myself for summer runs because I like to feel athletic and have fun, rather than being a winded, oily, zit covered, sweaty mess- but that's individual.

I'm a big fan of winny, but as far as toxicity, it's really just as toxic as drol on bloods and worse on lipids ime. That being said, it is a great compliment with test and/or tren. If toxicity is a concern you might consider masteron instead.
If you were asking what to run, I'd be suggesting test/EQ, or test/mast with winny and maybe time it for a peak- 4th of July? Family gathering? Vacation? Etc depending.

 

[Motoman22]

The doses would really be dependant on you- your past experience and results, and particular desires and goals of the cycle. I personally find some sides worse with tren Enanthate over Acetate which goes against what many say- no cough with e, but everything else is about the same with cardio being effected more to me. I gave up tren myself for summer runs because I like to feel athletic and have fun, rather than being a winded, oily, zit covered, sweaty mess- but that's individual.

I'm a big fan of winny, but as far as toxicity, it's really just as toxic as drol on bloods and worse on lipids ime. That being said, it is a great compliment with test and/or tren. If toxicity is a concern you might consider masteron instead.
If you were asking what to run, I'd be suggesting test/EQ, or test/mast with winny and maybe time it for a peak- 4th of July? Family gathering? Vacation? Etc depending.

If I run Test at 500mg for 16 weeks along with Mast and Winny. What dosages Mast and Winny? Also how many weeks should I use Mast?

 

[TheBeat]

If I run Test at 500mg for 16 weeks along with Mast and Winny. What dosages Mast and Winny? Also how many weeks should I use Mast?

It depends on a lot. 300mg mast would be a great addition, but I'd run 500mg-600mg (if mast e) and see it shine. Run it start to finish as an addition rather than a certain time for a peak. Twice a week is good, but I'd personally run it 3x a week since I metabolize quicker as I've gotten older and the shbg lowering of Drostanolone makes more test "usable" and free which also causes a quicker clearance. That being said- twice a week is fine for almost all.
50mg winny is a good dose for 4-6 weeks. I ran cardarine with my winny last time and it appeared to lessen the lipid impact in half (still trashed). It's going to get trashed no matter what, but will recover.

 

[Gobuckeyes0122]

Tren A for the win lol

 

[Test_Subject]

not interested in Anadrol due to hepatoxicity.

It's honestly not that toxic. Physicians prescribe it for 6+ months at higher doses than bodybuilders take.

I've taken it at 100mg for six weeks and it did nothing to my liver values.

 

[CanadianPride]

First time on tren and your going with enanthate? I chose ace for my first tren run. If things go sideways, I can get out of it quick. If things go well, I'll switch to enanthate next time.

I second this advice!

 

[TheBeat]

It's honestly not that toxic. Physicians prescribe it for 6+ months at higher doses than bodybuilders take.

I've taken it at 100mg for six weeks and it did nothing to my liver values.

I've had the same experience. My liver values have never gotten out of range and Winny has tanked my lipids worse. But for the OP and others, one should still run labs because some members like @Harmswhey get bad values off of 3 weeks of 40mg (var) so it's probably very individual.