Do not fall in love with sources...

Seriously. I went with one of the new sources on here (which has no negative reviews) and I am pretty sure I got burned. I am going to give the guy a week to resolve his non delivery issues before I blow it up on here. The fact that there are no negative reviews makes me think this place is less on the level than members think it is.

Who was it? Spit it out junior.
 
Seriously. I went with one of the new sources on here (which has no negative reviews) and I am pretty sure I got burned. I am going to give the guy a week to resolve his non delivery issues before I blow it up on here. The fact that there are no negative reviews makes me think this place is less on the level than members think it is.


PM me and tell me who , Im one of the whistleblowers here - I'll keep your identity secret if you want , we will take action if needed (still too early) ~Ogh
 
I appreciate the PMs however the only two ways I am going to out this guy to anyone is if one of two things happen:

1. I do not receive a response to the *second* e-mail which I sent earlier today asking for an explanation of why stated T/A was not met for the second time.

2. The pack is not here by the end of the business week.

I am am aware this puts others at risk of being burned but I am not going to fling shit at a source on a public board over what so far is just poor shipping and communication. I am about to go into work here soon so will not be able to reply for a while
 
this is truth! the best you can do is just stick with reliable sources thatve been around for years w good rep. as we see w all sources thus far they eventually crash and burn
 
There is a lot of fake friendship with sources here. There isn't anything wrong with that but I don't recommend it in a forum setting. If you send the lab a lot of business and hes compensating you for that business I see nothing wrong with that. But do it on an email basis. Not in pm on your home forum where they can ask you to help them vouch and pull the bro card...

"If you send the lab a lot of business and hes compensating you for that business I see nothing wrong with that."

^^^ This practice is widespread and the fact that many people don't see anything wrong with it causes a lot of problems in the community.

The motivation for providing source recommendations becomes less of one of helping out bros in the community and more one of self-interest.

What's that word used to identify people who receive free gear and in exchange promote labs to others? You guys know. What is it?

There is a very fine line. You may genuinely want to help people out with a recommendation. But the value of those recommendations are compromised when you're being paid (compensated) for them.

And the recipients of those recommendations are rarely informed of the fact that you're being compensated by the source for the referral.
 
The most valuable contribution I can make to the community is to provide an honest and accurate account of EACH of MY experiences with a SRC. Just b/c he was good a few months ago really doesn't mean jack, shit happens fast around here. Without bloods, and/or product testing for quality control any opinion I may have of a given line is just that, opinion. The most frustrating is the review by a member so happy that a pack actually landed they begin to shout from the rooftops, no consideration of actually using/testing the product in question. Ultimately at the end of the these UGL's are a dime a dozen, they don't deserve a glowing endorsement for delivering the product as promised within a reasonable time period. There is absolutely no reason to settle for anything less than competitively priced goods delivered in a reasonable time frame, manufactured in sterile conditions within a reasonable margin of stated dosage. It's really not that hard...any lab that can't consistently deliver said product either:

A) Is too dumb to be safely manufacturing goods for human consumption
B) Does not give one flying fuck about you or anyone else's well being on the most basic level
 
I appreciate the PMs however the only two ways I am going to out this guy to anyone is if one of two things happen:

1. I do not receive a response to the *second* e-mail which I sent earlier today asking for an explanation of why stated T/A was not met for the second time.

2. The pack is not here by the end of the business week.

I am am aware this puts others at risk of being burned but I am not going to fling shit at a source on a public board over what so far is just poor shipping and communication. I am about to go into work here soon so will not be able to reply for a while

I would urge you to go to the lab's thread and simply state in the open that you are waiting for an update b/c you are X amount of days out and have not had communication in X amount of days. Nothing more nothing less...you may be surprised that others may come forward as well with a similar experience. All too often it seems that poor communication and extended T/A's are early signs of more serious underlying issues. I waited too long to come forward with the MFL fiasco and by the time I turned the heat up seems like we collectively realized that the problem was much greater than many members anticipated. Guys were coming out of the woodwork once the ball started rolling...For whatever reason new guys "don't want to rock the boat" for fear of pissing a SRC off or some shit. Fuck that noise.
 
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What's that word used to identify people who receive free gear and in exchange promote labs to others? You guys know. What is it?

Ooh ooh, pick me. What is... a shill?

@Big-Dan This is the exact thing that is frowned upon here.

If you are promoting a lab openly and are being compensated, you are a rep. Which is ok, I don't suggest it but ok.

If you promote a lab from the shadows and are compensated for drawing customers in by being just one of the bros, you are a shill and a piece of shit in mine and most others eyes here.

Huge difference.
 
With all that said if I tell someone a source you can bet its a good one... If you choose to like or dislike me that's really only gonna matter to you... On this board you have the heroic COC that has "Helped" so many from being burnt.. But on this same board you hear of ppl getting the shaft from Getem yet he has a beautiful banner displayed right on the page im typing on. If im using a lab and they have been doing me right for a good amount of time then im not afraid to tell somebody... That helps a BRO out and on that same note if I send someone to that lab then why not compensate me for it? It makes me dishonest because of it? You guys are so hypocritical. You cant very well be an open rep for a lab here unless they have sold there soul to meso... Im not a run of the mill gear guy Im more of a dvd warehouse. I use respected and reliable sources... And a source who has been in the game and already has established a customer base isnt gonna come here bend over backwards and follow your rules.. They simply don't have to.. That's another mistake I see.. People actually believe that if they don't then they must be a scammer... But its the total opposite and this is a fact... The ONLY sources that will adhere to your regulations are new sources who don't have a client base.. And as history has taught the faithful followers here your ass is gonna get burnt.. I personally will hand over a good source to someone who asks and will help anyone... What that source gives me for my recommendation is between him and me... I rep for no one and I only recommend sources I use.. If a source seems to be slipping ill be the first to say... My advice is always private I don't post any source information here. You can say you frown on me or im a shill or whatever... The facts are the ppl from this site that come to me and use a source I give have always had perfect transactions.. Noones ever been burnt under my advice.. Can meso say that? No they sure cant... When you guys get a better track record then maybe say something. Till then ill keep the bros in gear like always and you guys can keep giving your money away.. I enjoy this board. lotta guys I like here and the humor is great.. Lota shit that don't make sense and I don't agree with but hey everyone has to make their own decisions... But to frown on me for giving a RELIABLE source to the bros when all your method has done is cost ppl money is hilarious.. Heres a thought guys. Maybe add a rule that states any lab has to prove one year of previous operation with very little negative review.. I say very little cause everyone will have some blemish... But doesn't that seem to make sense?? That will never happen here because anyone with any sense knows that a source with a year in wont come here and go threw the bull... Just saying. And just for the record its the same 5 or 6 ppl that really ride the coc bandwagon.. The rest have came through me or went elsewhere to get there gear... At some point you have to open your eyes and see whats goin on here aint working... I really don't care about sources here you could take that section out and it really wouldn't make a difference to me and it would damn sure save a lot of ppl money.
Big-Dan
 
@millard My recommendation has never been givin due to what I make off it... I will only pass on a lab I use myself.. I use a cpl different ones and none are here.. I do get discounts etc. due to my name being mentioned as it should be.. If someone asks me about a source ill hand em one. not always the same one as I use several. But my word is respected for one reason.. I have never steered someone wrong. Ppl trust me for a reason. Shill or worthless or whatever else you wanna call me.. Im still doing a better job and helping more folks than anyone here... You can cut that any way you want but its still gonna come out the same way
 
I never fall in love I have the no kiss rule with my sources .. seems like they just want to bend you over anyways :)
 
With all that said if I tell someone a source you can bet its a good one... If you choose to like or dislike me that's really only gonna matter to you... On this board you have the heroic COC that has "Helped" so many from being burnt.. But on this same board you hear of ppl getting the shaft from Getem yet he has a beautiful banner displayed right on the page im typing on. If im using a lab and they have been doing me right for a good amount of time then im not afraid to tell somebody... That helps a BRO out and on that same note if I send someone to that lab then why not compensate me for it? It makes me dishonest because of it? You guys are so hypocritical. You cant very well be an open rep for a lab here unless they have sold there soul to meso... Im not a run of the mill gear guy Im more of a dvd warehouse. I use respected and reliable sources... And a source who has been in the game and already has established a customer base isnt gonna come here bend over backwards and follow your rules.. They simply don't have to.. That's another mistake I see.. People actually believe that if they don't then they must be a scammer... But its the total opposite and this is a fact... The ONLY sources that will adhere to your regulations are new sources who don't have a client base.. And as history has taught the faithful followers here your ass is gonna get burnt.. I personally will hand over a good source to someone who asks and will help anyone... What that source gives me for my recommendation is between him and me... I rep for no one and I only recommend sources I use.. If a source seems to be slipping ill be the first to say... My advice is always private I don't post any source information here. You can say you frown on me or im a shill or whatever... The facts are the ppl from this site that come to me and use a source I give have always had perfect transactions.. Noones ever been burnt under my advice.. Can meso say that? No they sure cant... When you guys get a better track record then maybe say something. Till then ill keep the bros in gear like always and you guys can keep giving your money away.. I enjoy this board. lotta guys I like here and the humor is great.. Lota shit that don't make sense and I don't agree with but hey everyone has to make their own decisions... But to frown on me for giving a RELIABLE source to the bros when all your method has done is cost ppl money is hilarious.. Heres a thought guys. Maybe add a rule that states any lab has to prove one year of previous operation with very little negative review.. I say very little cause everyone will have some blemish... But doesn't that seem to make sense?? That will never happen here because anyone with any sense knows that a source with a year in wont come here and go threw the bull... Just saying. And just for the record its the same 5 or 6 ppl that really ride the coc bandwagon.. The rest have came through me or went elsewhere to get there gear... At some point you have to open your eyes and see whats goin on here aint working... I really don't care about sources here you could take that section out and it really wouldn't make a difference to me and it would damn sure save a lot of ppl money.
Big-Dan

Then get the fuck out of here already, don't worry about helping us "bros" out..

You got a free pass from everyone here (myself included) after you're last meltdown a few months ago when you were talking shit about Meso..

Fuck you Dan, asshole.. Go get your free gear broke bitch.. I'll buy mine at a fair price all day fucking long, that way I'm not tied to shit.. Sellout..
 
Ooh ooh, pick me. What is... a shill?

@Big-Dan This is the exact thing that is frowned upon here.

If you are promoting a lab openly and are being compensated, you are a rep. Which is ok, I don't suggest it but ok.

If you promote a lab from the shadows and are compensated for drawing customers in by being just one of the bros, you are a shill and a piece of shit in mine and most others eyes here.

Huge difference.

I used 1-inch 23g for both glutes and quads. Pretty standard. Definately don't recommend it for drawing.

I have always wondering what a shill was... where is the term derived from?
 
Fuck you johnny. Im broke? That's what it is. I give a fuck what you think about me.. Im not your friend and have never tried to be.. Because I don't go by your rules or care what you think of me? I really don't care dude. Its a fucking internet forum. I help a lot of people here and a lot of people are greatful. Do I care if your ok with it? No I really don't. I don't give a fuck what you think or how fucking Brotastic you are. Ill keep doin mine and you keep doing yours
 
Fuck you johnny. Im broke? That's what it is. I give a fuck what you think about me.. Im not your friend and have never tried to be.. Because I don't go by your rules or care what you think of me? I really don't care dude. Its a fucking internet forum. I help a lot of people here and a lot of people are greatful. Do I care if your ok with it? No I really don't. I don't give a fuck what you think or how fucking Brotastic you are. Ill keep doin mine and you keep doing yours

"Brotastic"!! I'm going to use that.. :)

I picture your fat ass sitting behind your acer laptop on a folding chair PMing every new guy that starts a thread looking for a source on the daily..

I don't care what you are or aren't ok with about me holmes.. Anyone else either for that matter.. I speak my mind..

Stop spending time on a forum you talk so much shit about, you'd probably do great over at ASF.. Lot of "bros" like you over there getting a free ride..
 
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Your so tough johnny. And so smart.. Im a member on a lot of boards. I don't approach any member they approach me. I actually like this board. I just don't do well with stupid.. And there is a lot of stupid here.. You can eat a dick or whatever makes you feel better I really don't care.. This is the internet and guys like you feel really tough. Kinda like standing behind your momma talking shit. You get the picture.You wouldn't talk to me like that or even look at me if we were in the same room.
 
Your so tough johnny. And so smart.. Im a member on a lot of boards. I don't approach any member they approach me. I actually like this board. I just don't do well with stupid.. And there is a lot of stupid here.. You can eat a dick or whatever makes you feel better I really don't care.. This is the internet and guys like you feel really tough. Kinda like standing behind your momma talking shit. You get the picture.You wouldn't talk to me like that or even look at me if we were in the same room.

Hahaha... That a fact?

Who's the tough guy? :rolleyes:

You're a douche bag, most douche bags don't like me because I tend to them about their doucheness..
 
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@millard My recommendation has never been givin due to what I make off it... I will only pass on a lab I use myself.. I use a cpl different ones and none are here.. I do get discounts etc. due to my name being mentioned as it should be.. If someone asks me about a source ill hand em one. not always the same one as I use several. But my word is respected for one reason.. I have never steered someone wrong. Ppl trust me for a reason. Shill or worthless or whatever else you wanna call me.. Im still doing a better job and helping more folks than anyone here... You can cut that any way you want but its still gonna come out the same way
@Big-Dan , I have no reason to doubt that you would give the same recommendations even if you were not compensated. And no matter how unapologetic you are about your decision to secretly accept kickbacks and/or discounts for source referrals, I hope you are able to look at it objectively from the outside-in and at least concede how it's a slippery slope that has often caused major problems in the community.
 
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