You can plainly see he is selling fake products that failed labmax and you are still using him? I dont have to ask if you are retarded. You are.
MESO-Rx
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do not trust napsgear!!!!
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You can plainly see he is selling fake products that failed labmax and you are still using him? I dont have to ask if you are retarded. You are.
pipelinerk
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Theres better options out there if you look. I will not talk trash on naps as I read the reviews and knew the risks. I hoped I would be one of the lucky ones, but sadly wasn't. He delivers his product, and I'm sure some of his stuff is legit. However as of late, it seems quite a bit is not quality gear at all.
pipelinerk
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Some of the recent tests. Not sure what to say about the labmax. The Drostanolone Propionate was present in the oil you sent flenser. Was it a sterile unopened vial? The test has shown many unknown compounds so we had to send the raws that actually tested well, the lab told us this is the best masteron percentage they have seen in the past 6 months. Deca tested good. So I don't know how to comment labmax now. The reason could be the special grade of MCT we are using may be? Not sure. But I told you guys China is not that big and there are very few good raw suppliers.
As for Turinabol this is exactly what the lab said:
"The Turinabol was a decent product, orals can show low purity because of the density that surrounds them. That is why it is best to test oral raw instead of finished product. This is a very good product."
I can see MythotiK now looking for turan pills in his trash can.
Both samples I sent came from the original vial and went straight into a smaller sterile vial using new syringes both times. So whatever was in the mast p was sent to me that way. A sample will fail the labmax test if it is contaminated with other aas, even trace amount in an otherwise gtg sample. I'm OK with that, since I have several sources that have no problem delivering uncontaminated products.
The deca definitely failed. Did you test the raws or the sample I sent? If your lab found uncontaminated deca in the sample I sent, you should find another lab.
We had already confirmed the tbol was good in your absence. There was no labmax test for it at the time, or it probably wouldn't have been called out.
so they made the statement this was the best mast prop they've ever seen when its 64% in raw form? sounds pretty f'n shitty to me
I still have my Tbol, Naps 
Another lab? It's actually the University in the United States that I unfortunately can not disclose. Why should I trust you and labmax and not trust US lab, Swiss lab and recently Chinese branch of a world wide known laboratory. I'm testing powders now at 3 labs worldwide. Who else is doing this? Tell me an independent lab and I will send the samples there. Don't call labmax kits laboratory please unless you can provide lab tests like below:
Here are some Jintani lab tests I made in China independent lab.
I know exactly where it was tested, but you didn’t answer the question of what was tested. You said the masteron sample was a mix of unknown crap, so you tested raws instead. Fine, but you sent me the vial containing crap to inject. I presume you did the same thing with the deca. So what you had tested and what you expected me to inject are two different things.
With respect to trust, I don’t think you understand how things work. You don’t need to trust your customers, you need them to trust you. They pay first, you send second. If they don’t trust you, that first part won’t happen very often. So tell me why I or anyone else should trust you or your lab results, when the gear you send out can’t pass a simple colorimetric test?
Very well said my friend. I believe the answer is "I ship 1k packs a day. Fuck you and your trust".
Honestly if I were him I probably wouldn't care either... but I would expect the well informed to take their business elsewhere.
The lab can tell you exactly how many milligrams of drug are in each tablet. To say it's best to test raws is misleading.
These tests look identical to the GH analysis recently posted by BigAngus. Angus' MS/HPLC were used to mislead members into believing two different lab's GH products were legitimate. They WERE NOT legitimate. In fact, not only were they garbage, one was contaminated with albumin - a HUMAN BLOOD PRODUCT! https://thinksteroids.com/forum/steroid-underground/are-eliteanabolx-gtg-134351838-21#post1004552
If Angus is doing the analysis of your MS/HPLC, you better find another source for testing.
Regards
CBS
Yea, I'm sure we're a tiny piece of his market. Funny, when this started I actually thought I was helping him out. I tested the gear and sent him the samples all at my own expense. I have trusted sources, and never intended to use anything from Naps.
It seems pretty obvious they have a problem with their brewing operation if good raws end up in contaminated vials. It's also pretty obvious Naps will choose to believe that I'm the source of the contamination. If I keep posting, this will quickly degrade into a pissing match.
I actually care about every customer complaint. Otherwise I wouldn't be there where I am now. I appreciate you trying to help me with the tests but I can not ignore the results of 3 independent lab tests either. When I posted the results from the Swiss lab I was blamed it could be a photo shop, now the US lab you say can not be trusted either. Chinese lab made the Jintani oils and pills tests, same raw supplier Geneza is using I wonder what you guys say about it now. I'm asking anyone concerned to try and find an independent lab I could send the products to. I don't know what else I should do. If I was not confident about the product quality I would not be sending hundreds of promo samples to meso members.
Flesner you have not been sent a contaminated product. Spectrophotometer may pick up any other substance present in the vial, even if its a derivative of the same hormone. These are Chinese raws and all the manufacturers are in the same pool here. I do have the right to suspect the 2ml vial you sent was not sterile though. I also must admit that 60-70% Drostanolone Propionate purity is the best you can find on the market right now. This is if you are lucky. This is just a fact. The deca sample you sent was perfectly fine. There is a post of a member here who doubted it after you did the lambax test but it worked for him. I also tested 4 deca raw samples from different suppliers at 3 different labs and they are fine too. I do not want to comment labmax in this situation. May be I should make a crazy move and invite you to our manufacturing facility one day so you make sure this is not just a bathtub operation
You ready bro?
Flesner you have not been sent a contaminated product. Spectrophotometer may pick up any other substance present in the vial, even if its a derivative of the same hormone. These are Chinese raws and all the manufacturers are in the same pool here. I do have the right to suspect the 2ml vial you sent was not sterile though. I also must admit that 60-70% Drostanolone Propionate purity is the best you can find on the market right now. This is if you are lucky. This is just a fact. The deca sample you sent was perfectly fine. There is a post of a member here who doubted it after you did the lambax test but it worked for him. I also tested 4 deca raw samples from different suppliers at 3 different labs and they are fine too. I do not want to comment labmax in this situation. May be I should make a crazy move and invite you to our manufacturing facility one day so you make sure this is not just a bathtub operation
You ready bro?
I actually care about every customer complaint. Otherwise I wouldn't be there where I am now. I appreciate you trying to help me with the tests but I can not ignore the results of 3 independent lab tests either. When I posted the results from the Swiss lab I was blamed it could be a photo shop, now the US lab you say can not be trusted either. Chinese lab made the Jintani oils and pills tests, same raw supplier Geneza is using I wonder what you guys say about it now. I'm asking anyone concerned to try and find an independent lab I could send the products to. I don't know what else I should do. If I was not confident about the product quality I would not be sending hundreds of promo samples to meso members.
Flesner you have not been sent a contaminated product. Spectrophotometer may pick up any other substance present in the vial, even if its a derivative of the same hormone. These are Chinese raws and all the manufacturers are in the same pool here. I do have the right to suspect the 2ml vial you sent was not sterile though. I also must admit that 60-70% Drostanolone Propionate purity is the best you can find on the market right now. This is if you are lucky. This is just a fact. The deca sample you sent was perfectly fine. There is a post of a member here who doubted it after you did the lambax test but it worked for him. I also tested 4 deca raw samples from different suppliers at 3 different labs and they are fine too. I do not want to comment labmax in this situation. May be I should make a crazy move and invite you to our manufacturing facility one day so you make sure this is not just a bathtub operation
For the record, I never questioned the lab facilities. I said you posted tests from them that weren’t from the samples I sent. You said so too, at least w.r.t. the masteron. I agree with your comments on the available purity, BTW, it just doesn’t change the fact that what I received is what the lab received in my sample. You didn’t say it had bacteria, but that it contained “many unknown compounds”. If you weren’t prepared to accept the results, you shouldn’t have asked me to send the samples.
I will have the deca tested elsewhere. The labmax results were distinctly different than other deca tests I’ve done as well as the tests published on the labmax site. I have had numerous failed labmax results challenged by the UGL that sold it, and so far labmax has been proven correct every time.
As I said before, though, a failed test doesn’t mean there’s no deca in there. It could have deca and testosterone, or some other aas. Colorimetric tests are very limited in that respect, but they are the only reasonably priced tests available. As long as I have sources that can deliver products that do not fail those tests, I will use them in preference to sources that cannot. It’s really that simple.
Ha, I would take you up on a tour. It would be a very unique way for Naps to conform to the Meso Source Code of Conduct.
joe0035
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Flenser if they give you a tour can I be your plus one? [
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I would like to follow up on this one more time. I originally believed you said here that you actually tested my sample. Is that the case, and if so can I see the results?
The deca sample I sent you tests positive for Nandrolone Phenylpropionate, not Nandrolone Decanoate. The labmax results confirm this. That's what was in the vial you sent me.
Megapumps1234
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I'm one week into a Biomex Test E (500mg/wk)/ Dbol cycle (40mg/day). Seeing slight strength gains already. I'm up two pounds, and I only ate 2000 calories on Sunday and Monday (was at a work conference so didn't have good opportunities to eat). I'll update next week, but things seem to be working so far.
I have crazy bad PIP though. My quad injection yesterday got down into my knee cap, and I was limping all day today.
I have crazy bad PIP though. My quad injection yesterday got down into my knee cap, and I was limping all day today.
BiggerSwole
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LOL @ this thread starter. That's all I wanted to do when I clicked on the thread to see what idiot was complaining about not receiving something within a couple of days. Shipping issues.. it happens, get over it, then contact them to see what went wrong.
They've always replaced and ensured I received my goods, and it was always quality stuff. I don't understand all the flames when there was never a fire... nor even wood to keep the mofo going. Assclowns... smh.
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Nice first post.
