white-boyka
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Some love it, some hate it. I’m curious for your reasons for being on whichever side you are on.
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Do you consider Clens risk/reward ratio worth it?
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Earthworm Jim
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NO
That stuff is a nightmare. And I'm convinced the weight I lost is from drying out. I got so overstimulated that every time someone made eye contact with me my body would tense and my neck would start shaking. Moderately loud noises hurt my ears. I was not fun to be around.
I'm satisfied with reta, cardio, and just being disciplined. Also clen made me ravenous
That stuff is a nightmare. And I'm convinced the weight I lost is from drying out. I got so overstimulated that every time someone made eye contact with me my body would tense and my neck would start shaking. Moderately loud noises hurt my ears. I was not fun to be around.
I'm satisfied with reta, cardio, and just being disciplined. Also clen made me ravenous
CorgisOnTren
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Yes
explodingHeart
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I'd choose DNP over clen. At least if you have the powder you can get accurate dosing. Never trust a drug dosed in MCG.
Avarice911
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Personally love clen. If taken/dosed properly, you don’t even know you’re on it
trtbuilder
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How much were you taking? I'm conservative and never even notice it.
RockyP
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I liked it when used in the past but now that I take Thyroid replacement I won't touch it. As fat loss goes, you're way better off with a GLP-1 like Reta. Like it's not even close in terms of efficacy.
wells14
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Username checks out
BigDadd7
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It was great five years ago before glp's came along. Now it's just retarded.
Slowww
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Yes nothing against clen. I don’t even notice bad sides on it, but I also max out at 80mcgs. I just notice the scale weight move, and my work capacity changes due to breathing. I used Albuterol since I was a child as an asthmatic and it basically feels like that except stronger and offering a boost in ability to do cardio. Heart rate is totally fine, blood pressure too. I don’t use anything like Reta and don’t see the point in using it to manipulate hunger, so I prefer clen.
xrayphoton13
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I love it. Scale moves fast on it. I stay strong, even increasing in strength in a large deficit. I do split up my dose though. 40mcg am and then whatever else I need around noon after my workout. Training on anything more than 40mcg just feels weird. Contractions feel odd. That's why I wait until after for the rest.
EC stack is my favorite though since you don't have to come off. I've probably run it for the good majority of 20 years.
DNP so far I have not had luck with. Hunger stayed so high I out ate it every time I tried, strength went down, I was super lethargic every evening. Probably just not for me.
I use tirzepatide with all of them. Tirzepatide is my far my favorite glp1
EC stack is my favorite though since you don't have to come off. I've probably run it for the good majority of 20 years.
DNP so far I have not had luck with. Hunger stayed so high I out ate it every time I tried, strength went down, I was super lethargic every evening. Probably just not for me.
I use tirzepatide with all of them. Tirzepatide is my far my favorite glp1
Palifter
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Clen is great. People tend to dose too quickly and aggressively hence the negative comments. Start low and slow.
RockyP
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You guys who use clen, do you remove all other stims like caffeine from preworkout and just in general? I haven’t run clen in decades but I do recall having a high tolerance and still used 200-300 mg caffeine preworkout even when taking up to 80 of clen.
Slowww
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No, I use caffeine, Yohimbine as well, usually 150mg pre workout then 150mg post, also same in the morning for fasted cardio
RockyP
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Any thyroid meds or no? That’s the only thing that has me concerned for using clen. I take a small dose of Armour thyroid (1 grain). I know guys have used clen and t3 together forever but there’s a black box warning about combining them due to risk of atrial fibrillation.
MentEFresh
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Yes. It's cheap and effective, and actually has some mild performance enhancement. If ur getting insomnia or "anxiety" from a drug as mild as clen at any normal dose (20-80mcg) you probably are just not fit for this field. You'll be complaining about the same shit for Nandrolone or eq. Those types are better to stay natty. feeble grandmas were given 80mcg of clen for months and they were fine....
Also hilarious hearing the "no point when glp1s or slu exist", brother, these drugs all work off completely different pathways, theres no reason you cant use them all at a moderate dose to GREAT EFFECT. especially for glp1s, its a fucking appetite suppressant, how would it and clen ever be an either/or thing lmfao.
Slowww
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I use t4 year round, no t3. I tried t3 once and didnt like it. I have had ecgs done on clen & t4 (as well as trenbolone) I had a normal sinus rhythm, waves were all uniform. No cause for concern, and I do this 1-2x a year.
muscledudee
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clen/cardarine/l-carnitine+yohimbine (maybe other things like t3/hgh also) all before fasted cardio is a super stack 
(only if u know how to do things) yes u can get shredded by none of them but i found this combination is crazy good! Clen+cardarine has synergestic effects(cardarine deplets carnitine from ur body so u need l carnitine together which will enhance fat loss) and also yohimbine for b2 receptors. low dose all ofc and always check ur bp/rhr. even if u feel too stimmed on yohimbine efects will say bye to you after 15-20mins when u eat ur first meal.
(only if u know how to do things) yes u can get shredded by none of them but i found this combination is crazy good! Clen+cardarine has synergestic effects(cardarine deplets carnitine from ur body so u need l carnitine together which will enhance fat loss) and also yohimbine for b2 receptors. low dose all ofc and always check ur bp/rhr. even if u feel too stimmed on yohimbine efects will say bye to you after 15-20mins when u eat ur first meal.
Gonz0
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Yes, I’ve only used it once and will use it again. Psmf + clen melts fat. Also take 5mg nebivolol year round so that helped with some of the negative sides. At 120mcg I never really felt like my heart was gonna explode , just got a little shaky sometimes.
