Do you consider Clens risk/reward ratio worth it?

[Scob]

Yes. It's cheap and effective, and actually has some mild performance enhancement. If ur getting insomnia or "anxiety" from a drug as mild as clen at any normal dose (20-80mcg) you probably are just not fit for this field. You'll be complaining about the same shit for Nandrolone or eq. Those types are better to stay natty. feeble grandmas were given 80mcg of clen for months and they were fine....

Also hilarious hearing the "no point when glp1s or slu exist", brother, these drugs all work off completely different pathways, theres no reason you cant use them all at a moderate dose to GREAT EFFECT. especially for glp1s, its a fucking appetite suppressant, how would it and clen ever be an either/or thing lmfao.

Clen + Reta + slu why not
Just run the best in slot for each

 

[muscledudee]

reta is for p*ssies real men starve and eat boiled chciken

 

[Earthworm Jim]

How much were you taking? I'm conservative and never even notice it.

20 then 40 then 80 over then back down to 40. Over the course of two weeks. Then I took two weeks off again and didn't make it a full seven days the second time I tried it. 20mcg wasn't the worst thing. It made my hands shake the first two day then I acclimated I guess. I liked the cardio boost but it wasn't significant.

80 was too much so I took a day off and tried 40 again and was still miserable

 

[white-boyka]

Yes

Yes, I’ve only used it once and will use it again. Psmf + clen melts fat. Also take 5mg nebivolol year round so that helped with some of the negative sides. At 120mcg I never really felt like my heart was gonna explode , just got a little shaky sometimes.

clen/cardarine/l-carnitine+yohimbine (maybe other things like t3/hgh also) all before fasted cardio is a super stack (only if u know how to do things) yes u can get shredded by none of them but i found this combination is crazy good! Clen+cardarine has synergestic effects(cardarine deplets carnitine from ur body so u need l carnitine together which will enhance fat loss) and also yohimbine for b2 receptors. low dose all ofc and always check ur bp/rhr. even if u feel too stimmed on yohimbine efects will say bye to you after 15-20mins when u eat ur first meal.

Yes. It's cheap and effective, and actually has some mild performance enhancement. If ur getting insomnia or "anxiety" from a drug as mild as clen at any normal dose (20-80mcg) you probably are just not fit for this field. You'll be complaining about the same shit for Nandrolone or eq. Those types are better to stay natty. feeble grandmas were given 80mcg of clen for months and they were fine....

Also hilarious hearing the "no point when glp1s or slu exist", brother, these drugs all work off completely different pathways, theres no reason you cant use them all at a moderate dose to GREAT EFFECT. especially for glp1s, its a fucking appetite suppressant, how would it and clen ever be an either/or thing lmfao.

Clen is great. People tend to dose too quickly and aggressively hence the negative comments. Start low and slow.

I love it. Scale moves fast on it. I stay strong, even increasing in strength in a large deficit. I do split up my dose though. 40mcg am and then whatever else I need around noon after my workout. Training on anything more than 40mcg just feels weird. Contractions feel odd. That's why I wait until after for the rest.

EC stack is my favorite though since you don't have to come off. I've probably run it for the good majority of 20 years.

DNP so far I have not had luck with. Hunger stayed so high I out ate it every time I tried, strength went down, I was super lethargic every evening. Probably just not for me.

I use tirzepatide with all of them. Tirzepatide is my far my favorite glp1

for those that like it, what’s your dosing protocol? moving up 20mcg a day until reaching like 120mcg then slowly tapering down?

 

[MentEFresh]

for those that like it, what’s your dosing protocol? moving up 20mcg a day until reaching like 120mcg then slowly tapering down?

The pills are dosed at 40mcg. I usually just start at 40mcg, hold that for a few days then 60mcg, few days, then 80mcg until im satisfied. You can titrate down if you wish off a similar pattern. Clen+ DNP+ T3+ Reta + PSMF and u lose a lb of day. Doing a long cut is a waste of time unless youre litteraly competing.

Natties crash diet on PSMF and hardly lose any muscle. On gear crash dieting for a few weeks isnt going melt ur muscle. Being glycogen depleted isnt losing muscle...

 

[Liter O' Test]

as long as you dont dose so high you get cramps or tachycardia
just ramp up slowly even like twenty milligrams works

 

[DYELMAN99]

I didn't get any sides, but I didn't notice much help when it came to weight loss.. I could breath way better tho.

 

[xrayphoton13]

for those that like it, what’s your dosing protocol? moving up 20mcg a day until reaching like 120mcg then slowly tapering down?

Type-iix has a clenbuterol handbook coming out to explain everything to you.
I usually just do 2-3 weeks at a time, start at 40mcg and move up to 80mcg as quick as I can hande and stay there until 2-3 weeks are over. Then I take a break for 3 weeks.

 

[muscledudee]

for those that like it, what’s your dosing protocol? moving up 20mcg a day until reaching like 120mcg then slowly tapering down?

i start with me and clients 20, up every ~10days at 40 then 60 then 2 weeks at 80 i stay there 2 weeks and then drop it tapring down 20 for 3 days and 0 for about 10days and start from 20 or 40 again if needed. everyone is different ofc. also it deplets potassium thats why people have more cramps! get potassium from ur diet or if u cant get it form electolytes during the day! and intraworkout!

 

[Ironman580]

NO
That stuff is a nightmare. And I'm convinced the weight I lost is from drying out. I got so overstimulated that every time someone made eye contact with me my body would tense and my neck would start shaking. Moderately loud noises hurt my ears. I was not fun to be around.

I'm satisfied with reta, cardio, and just being disciplined. Also clen made me ravenous

 

[VikingMD]

i start with me and clients 20, up every ~10days at 40 then 60 then 2 weeks at 80 i stay there 2 weeks and then drop it tapring down 20 for 3 days and 0 for about 10days and start from 20 or 40 again if needed. everyone is different ofc. also it deplets potassium thats why people have more cramps! get potassium from ur diet or if u cant get it form electolytes during the day! and intraworkout!

Doesn't exactly deplete potassium. Beta agonists stimulate the sodium potassium exchange and it moves potassium intracellular from the serum. This causes the potassium to drop but total body potassium stays the same.

 

[Slowww]

as long as you dont dose so high you get cramps or tachycardia
just ramp up slowly even like twenty milligrams works

yes, very easy this way and gets the job done. Can also see if/where you get sides and find your limit comfortably.

 

[Ron OG Mouse]

I have not touched Clen in years but it worked well when I took it on an empty stomach. So did ECA stacks to be honest. Currently I think Reta is a better choice for fat loss. I am about to mix in SLU and Mot-c with my reta so hoping that will be even better.

 

[ackmack78]

Any thyroid meds or no? That’s the only thing that has me concerned for using clen. I take a small dose of Armour thyroid (1 grain). I know guys have used clen and t3 together forever but there’s a black box warning about combining them due to risk of atrial fibrillation.

I wouldn't be too worried about it. If you look at the way clen and t3 used to be run guys would work up to 75-100ug t3 and 120-160ug clen. Id just be reasonable about it and use a more modern clen approach and think you'll be fine.

I take 100 T4 25 t3 and have never had an issue with clen. If I'm getting in and out I'll run it 40 for a week 60 for a week then 80 for the last week. On a longer run I'll do 20 for a week then 40 for 2 weeks then step up by 20ug and hold at each dose for 2 weeks until I get to 80. Then I'll stop for 2-4 weeks.

 

[RockyP]

I wouldn't be too worried about it. If you look at the way clen and t3 used to be run guys would work up to 75-100ug t3 and 120-160ug clen. Id just be reasonable about it and use a more modern clen approach and think you'll be fine.

I take 100 T4 25 t3 and have never had an issue with clen. If I'm getting in and out I'll run it 40 for a week 60 for a week then 80 for the last week. On a longer run I'll do 20 for a week then 40 for 2 weeks then step up by 20ug and hold at each dose for 2 weeks until I get to 80. Then I'll stop for 2-4 weeks.

Thanks brother. I only take 1 grain of Armour so that’s 38 mcg T4 and 9 mcg T3. Might need to fire up the clen again. I did well with it back in the day and I was running 25 mcg T3 with it.

 

[Photon]

You can get very accurate clen dosing with liquid clen (arail has it) since its a homogeneous solution. Not pharma, but you don't get the inconsistencies from the api being spread out in the tablet or uneven breaking to split doses.

 

[RockyP]

You can get very accurate clen dosing with liquid clen (arail has it) since its a homogeneous solution. Not pharma, but you don't get the inconsistencies from the api being spread out in the tablet or uneven breaking to split doses.

I saw Arail's - and the testing is dead on balls accurate as usual - might give it a go

 

[ZaddyZonar]

I saw Arail's - and the testing is dead on balls accurate as usual - might give it a go

Fwiw, I’m running theirs right now. No issues so far, same effects when dosing the same as pharma clen from pct

 

[ackmack78]

Thanks brother. I only take 1 grain of Armour so that’s 38 mcg T4 and 9 mcg T3. Might need to fire up the clen again. I did well with it back in the day and I was running 25 mcg T3 with it.

Go for it and the modern approach is so much better. No jitteriness or crazy anxiety from going up 20-40ug every couple of days like we used to. After the first day or 2 of starting it I don't even know I'm on it. The 20ug jumps are pretty mild after youve been on the lower dose for a week or two