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Does Anyone Use Maximus HRT ?
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newbie23
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lets get back on the orig. topic of Max. ....... anyone still getting there med.'s from Max. and if so how long is it taking?[
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I know people that are receiving their meds now, everyone wants to ask how long is it taking, I'm here to tell you the longer the better, that just means they are following the rules................................
I hope others will chime in with their honest opinion
I hear ya on the GH being touchy waters, but one thing I can't deny is it is what is missing from TRT, it compliments it in every way.
In no way am I advocating for hGH with TRT, but there is evidence in support of your view. I do not think any of these patients were T or GH deficient!
Giannoulis MG, Sonksen PH, Umpleby M, et al. The Effects of Growth Hormone and/or Testosterone in Healthy Elderly Men: A Randomized Controlled Trial. Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism 2006;91(2):477-84. The Effects of Growth Hormone and/or Testosterone in Healthy Elderly Men: A Randomized Controlled Trial
Context: Declines in GH and testosterone (Te) secretion may contribute to the detrimental aging changes of elderly men.
Objective: To assess the effects of near-physiological GH with/without Te administration on lean body mass, total body fat, midthigh muscle cross-section area, muscle strength, aerobic capacity, condition-specific quality of life (Age-Related Hormone Deficiency-Dependent Quality of Life questionnaire), and generic health status (36-Item Short-Form Health Survey) of older men.
Design, Settings, and Participants: A 6-month, randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial was performed on 80 healthy, community-dwelling, older men (age, 65–80 yr).
Interventions: Participants were randomized to receive 1) placebo GH or placebo Te, 2) recombinant human GH (rhGH) and placebo Te (GH), 3) Te and placebo rhGH (Te), or 4) rhGH and Te (GHTe). GH doses were titrated over 8 wk to produce IGF-I levels in the upper half of the age-specific reference range. A fixed dose of Te (5 mg) was given by transdermal patches.
Results: Lean body mass increased with GHTe (P = 0.008) and GH (P = 0.004), compared with placebo. Total body fat decreased with GHTe only (P = 0.02). Midthigh muscle (P = 0.006) and aerobic capacity (P < 0.001) increased only after GHTe. Muscle strength changes were variable; one of six measures significantly increased with GHTe. Significant treatment group by time interactions indicated an improved Age-Related Hormone Deficiency-Dependent Quality of Life questionnaire score (P = 0.007) in the GH and GHTe groups. Bodily pain increased with GH alone, as determined by the Short-Form Health Survey (P = 0.003). There were no major adverse effects.
Conclusion: Coadministration of low dose GH with Te resulted in beneficial changes being observed more often than with either GH or Te alone.
Sattler F, Bhasin S, He J, et al. Testosterone Threshold Levels and Lean Tissue Mass Targets Needed to Enhance Skeletal Muscle Strength and Function: The HORMA Trial. The Journals of Gerontology Series A: Biological Sciences and Medical Sciences 2010;66A(1):122-9. Testosterone Threshold Levels and Lean Tissue Mass Targets Needed to Enhance Skeletal Muscle Strength and Function: The HORMA Trial
Background. In the HORMA (Hormonal Regulators of Muscle and Metabolism in Aging) Trial, supplemental testosterone and recombinant human growth hormone (rhGH) enhanced lean body mass, appendicular skeletal muscle mass, muscle performance, and physical function, but there was substantial interindividual variability in outcomes.
Methods. One hundred and twelve men aged 65–90 years received testosterone gel (5 g/d vs 10 g/d via Leydig cell clamp) and rhGH (0 vs 3 vs 5 ?g/kg/d) in a double-masked 2 × 3 factorial design for 16 weeks. Outcomes included lean tissue mass by dual energy x-ray absorptiometry, one-repetition maximum strength, Margaria stair power, and activity questionnaires. We used pathway analysis to determine the relationship between changes in hormone levels, muscle mass, strength, and function.
Results. Increases in total testosterone of 1046 ng/dL (95% confidence interval = 1040–1051) and 898 ng/dL (95% confidence interval = 892–904) were necessary to achieve median increases in lean body mass of 1.5 kg and appendicular skeletal muscle mass of 0.8 kg, respectively, which were required to significantly enhance one-repetition maximum strength (?30%). Co-treatment with rhGH lowered the testosterone levels (quantified using liquid chromatography–tandem mass spectrometry) necessary to reach these lean mass thresholds. Changes in one-repetition maximum strength were associated with increases in stair climbing power (r = .26, p = .01). Pathway analysis supported the model that changes in testosterone and insulin-like growth factor 1 levels are related to changes in lean body mass needed to enhance muscle performance and physical function. Testosterone’s effects on physical activity were mediated through a different pathway because testosterone directly affected Physical Activity Score of the Elderly.
Conclusions. To enhance muscle strength and physical function, threshold improvements in lean body mass and appendicular skeletal muscle mass are necessary and these can be achieved by targeting changes in testosterone levels. rhGH augments the effects of testosterone. To maximize functional improvements, the doses of anabolic hormones should be titrated to achieve target blood levels.
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WOW so the shit that went down was real, and their administrator finally somewhat acknowledges it!!
i wonder what their next move will be? both maximus and their website they use to sponsor?
hardasnails1973
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People have spoken to chip who have long time members of his. If he was smart I thin he would keep it just to TRT for now since I am sure he is being heavily watched .
newbie23
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newbie23
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I was talking with a guy the other day who is 54 and has been on rHGH at a low dose for the past 12 years. His blog work was terrible when he started, he now has 12 years of bloodwork every 3 months, to support his use, it has improved every aspect of his blood work. he looks 35.
the proof is in the pudding
BTW Dr Scally thanks again for the studies, I'm saving those.
the proof is in the pudding
BTW Dr Scally thanks again for the studies, I'm saving those.
Looks like they already got another sponsor lined up. im done with Maximus.
To many people on that board look like they work for Maximus. im sure they will be banned soon. That thread got trimmed real quick since so many people were defending Maximus.
The admin states that this new guy "Mike" working for Maximus quit. right after that you got like 3 posts by different people saying he didn't quit. hmmmm sounds like a bunch of BS. The admin wouldnt make that shit up and drop them as a sponsor if they werent being shady in some way.
Also there were posts stating that Maximus has decided to move on. Sounds like more BS. they got so many clients thru that board including myself. why would they leave the board where they get almost all their clients?
IMO Maximus is going down the tubes.
To many people on that board look like they work for Maximus. im sure they will be banned soon. That thread got trimmed real quick since so many people were defending Maximus.
The admin states that this new guy "Mike" working for Maximus quit. right after that you got like 3 posts by different people saying he didn't quit. hmmmm sounds like a bunch of BS. The admin wouldnt make that shit up and drop them as a sponsor if they werent being shady in some way.
Also there were posts stating that Maximus has decided to move on. Sounds like more BS. they got so many clients thru that board including myself. why would they leave the board where they get almost all their clients?
IMO Maximus is going down the tubes.
cvictorg
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cvictorg
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Maximus HRT prices
www.maximushrt.com/wp-content/uploads/whats_next.docx
I Have received your online submission of our Medical History Questionnaire. Your new client information will be complete for evaluation once I receive both, your current blood work (less than 12 months old) and a copy of your annual physical examination (less than 12 months old). If you are in possession of these two items or can get copies of them from your doctor, please do so and fax them to me at (888) 885-7378.
If you are in need of obtaining these two requirements, please order your blood work online at our website - Maximus HRT and use the Intake Physical Examination Form off the website to document the findings from your annual physical examination. Please fax the physical to the number referenced above.
When you order your blood work from our website, you will be emailed a paid receipt and a prescription for the blood work that you will take to a LABCORP nearest you. Your information will immediately be entered in their database and you are able to have lab work done at your earliest convenience. Lab results are usually returned to me within 2-3 business days.
The MAXIMUS HRT FEE STRUCTURE is as follows:
INITIAL PHYSICIAN CONSULT: $80.00
SHIPPING: $25.00
COST OF MEDICATIONS: ATTACHED
ALL ENSUING PRESCRIPTION REQUESTS:
PRESCRIPTION FEE: $50.00 (PER ORDER. NOT ITEM)
SHIPPING: $25.00
COST OF MEDICATIONS: ATTACHED
I request that you review the examples of the protocol's below that I have put together. Please keep in mind, the protocol's below are NOT prescription's that have yet been approved for you by our doctors. They are examples of different synergistic combinations, pending physician approval, that we may apply to your therapeutic needs, based on your personal health and fitness goals and a fit that is comfortable for you from a financial standpoint. All protocol's will cover a minimum of a ten week course of therapy and in some cases you may have a surplus of medication, extending beyond ten weeks, that can be used for ensuing protocol's.
I am open to any and all input that you have to offer regarding your protocol, as our goal is to help you reach your goals. Our physicians will make the final decision on all protocol's. Please view the options below and give me your ideas as to the direction in which you would like to go. In order to efficiently expedite the process of beginning a new protocol, I'll need the information below, completed and emailed back to me.
Patient Information: Patient Detail
Date: [todays_date] Doctor: [primary_doctor]
Name: [firstname] [middlename] [lastname] Consultant: [consultants-name]
Social: Gender: [gender]
Allergies: DOB: [date-of-birth]
Address: [street_address] CC Type:
City/St/Zip: [city]/[state]/[zip] Credit Cd:
Phone: ([phone-area])[phone-prefix]-[phone-suffix] Exp Date:
Billing Info: Sec Code:
Billing Name:
Address:
City/St/Zip:
CONSERVATIVE
Qty Product Description Pricel/Unit Total Retail
2 Testosterone Cypionate 200mg/ml 10ml $99.00 198.00
1 HCG 11,000 USP $105.00 105.00
30 Anastrozole 1mg cap (30) $5.67 170.00
25 18 g x 1.5" syringe 3ml $0.50 12.50
25 23 g x 1.5" needle or 1" $0.50 12.50
50 29 g x 1/2" syringe 1ml $0.50 25.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
Dr. Initial Visit-($80)/ Follow up($65)/ F2F(150) $80.00 80.00
SHIPPING: 2 Day Delivery 25.00
SHIP INST.: All packages Signature Required
TOTAL 628.00
MODERATE
Qty Product Description Pricel/Unit Total Retail
2 Testosterone Enanthate/Cypionate/Prop 100/100/50mg/ml $195.00 390.00
1 HCG 11,000 USP $105.00 105.00
30 Anastrozole 1mg cap (30) $5.67 170.00
70 Stanozolol 50mg Troche (100) $8.00 560.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
25 18 g x 1.5" syringe 3ml $0.50 12.50
50 23 g x 1.5" needle or 1" $0.50 25.00
50 29 g x 1/2" syringe 1ml $0.50 25.00
Dr. Initial Visit-($80)/ Follow up($65)/ F2F(150) $80.00 80.00
SHIPPING: 2 Day Delivery 25.00
SHIP INST.: All packages Signature Required
TOTAL 1,392.50
AGGRESSIVE
Qty Product Description Pricel/Unit Total Retail
2 Testosterone Enanthate/Cypionate/Prop 100/100/50mg/ml $195.00 390.00
1 HCG 11,000 USP $105.00 105.00
30 Anastrozole 1mg cap (30) $5.67 170.00
70 Stanozolol 50mg Troche (100) $8.00 560.00
70 Oxandrolone 50mg (100) $10.00 700.00
100 Cytomel 50mcg (100) $3.00 300.00
0.00
25 18 g x 1.5" syringe 3ml $0.50 12.50
50 23 g x 1.5" needle or 1" $0.50 25.00
50 29 g x 1/2" syringe 1ml $0.50 25.00
Dr. Initial Visit-($80)/ Follow up($65)/ F2F(150) $80.00 80.00
SHIPPING: 2 Day Delivery 25.00
SHIP INST.: All packages Signature Required
TOTAL 2,392.50
AGGRESSIVE/W/HGH THERAPY
Qty Product Description Pricel/Unit Total Retail
2 Testosterone Enanthate/Cypionate/Prop 100/100/50mg/ml $195.00 390.00
1 HCG 11,000 USP $105.00 105.00
30 Anastrozole 1mg cap (30) $5.67 170.00
70 Stanozolol 50mg Troche (100) $8.00 560.00
70 Oxandrolone 50mg (100) $10.00 700.00
100 Cytomel 50mcg (100) $3.00 300.00
10 Tev-Tropin 5mg 15 ius $215.00 2,150.00
25 18 g x 1.5" syringe 3ml $0.50 12.50
50 23 g x 1.5" needle or 1" $0.50 25.00
50 29 g x 1/2" syringe 1ml $0.50 25.00
Dr. Initial Visit-($80)/ Follow up($65)/ F2F(150) $80.00 80.00
SHIPPING: 2 Day Delivery 25.00
SHIP INST.: All packages Signature Required
TOTAL 4,542.50
MAXIMUS HRT
Chip Wadowski
President
Direct: (248) 345-8412
www.maximushrt.com/wp-content/uploads/whats_next.docx
I Have received your online submission of our Medical History Questionnaire. Your new client information will be complete for evaluation once I receive both, your current blood work (less than 12 months old) and a copy of your annual physical examination (less than 12 months old). If you are in possession of these two items or can get copies of them from your doctor, please do so and fax them to me at (888) 885-7378.
If you are in need of obtaining these two requirements, please order your blood work online at our website - Maximus HRT and use the Intake Physical Examination Form off the website to document the findings from your annual physical examination. Please fax the physical to the number referenced above.
When you order your blood work from our website, you will be emailed a paid receipt and a prescription for the blood work that you will take to a LABCORP nearest you. Your information will immediately be entered in their database and you are able to have lab work done at your earliest convenience. Lab results are usually returned to me within 2-3 business days.
The MAXIMUS HRT FEE STRUCTURE is as follows:
INITIAL PHYSICIAN CONSULT: $80.00
SHIPPING: $25.00
COST OF MEDICATIONS: ATTACHED
ALL ENSUING PRESCRIPTION REQUESTS:
PRESCRIPTION FEE: $50.00 (PER ORDER. NOT ITEM)
SHIPPING: $25.00
COST OF MEDICATIONS: ATTACHED
I request that you review the examples of the protocol's below that I have put together. Please keep in mind, the protocol's below are NOT prescription's that have yet been approved for you by our doctors. They are examples of different synergistic combinations, pending physician approval, that we may apply to your therapeutic needs, based on your personal health and fitness goals and a fit that is comfortable for you from a financial standpoint. All protocol's will cover a minimum of a ten week course of therapy and in some cases you may have a surplus of medication, extending beyond ten weeks, that can be used for ensuing protocol's.
I am open to any and all input that you have to offer regarding your protocol, as our goal is to help you reach your goals. Our physicians will make the final decision on all protocol's. Please view the options below and give me your ideas as to the direction in which you would like to go. In order to efficiently expedite the process of beginning a new protocol, I'll need the information below, completed and emailed back to me.
Patient Information: Patient Detail
Date: [todays_date] Doctor: [primary_doctor]
Name: [firstname] [middlename] [lastname] Consultant: [consultants-name]
Social: Gender: [gender]
Allergies: DOB: [date-of-birth]
Address: [street_address] CC Type:
City/St/Zip: [city]/[state]/[zip] Credit Cd:
Phone: ([phone-area])[phone-prefix]-[phone-suffix] Exp Date:
Billing Info: Sec Code:
Billing Name:
Address:
City/St/Zip:
CONSERVATIVE
Qty Product Description Pricel/Unit Total Retail
2 Testosterone Cypionate 200mg/ml 10ml $99.00 198.00
1 HCG 11,000 USP $105.00 105.00
30 Anastrozole 1mg cap (30) $5.67 170.00
25 18 g x 1.5" syringe 3ml $0.50 12.50
25 23 g x 1.5" needle or 1" $0.50 12.50
50 29 g x 1/2" syringe 1ml $0.50 25.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
Dr. Initial Visit-($80)/ Follow up($65)/ F2F(150) $80.00 80.00
SHIPPING: 2 Day Delivery 25.00
SHIP INST.: All packages Signature Required
TOTAL 628.00
MODERATE
Qty Product Description Pricel/Unit Total Retail
2 Testosterone Enanthate/Cypionate/Prop 100/100/50mg/ml $195.00 390.00
1 HCG 11,000 USP $105.00 105.00
30 Anastrozole 1mg cap (30) $5.67 170.00
70 Stanozolol 50mg Troche (100) $8.00 560.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
25 18 g x 1.5" syringe 3ml $0.50 12.50
50 23 g x 1.5" needle or 1" $0.50 25.00
50 29 g x 1/2" syringe 1ml $0.50 25.00
Dr. Initial Visit-($80)/ Follow up($65)/ F2F(150) $80.00 80.00
SHIPPING: 2 Day Delivery 25.00
SHIP INST.: All packages Signature Required
TOTAL 1,392.50
AGGRESSIVE
Qty Product Description Pricel/Unit Total Retail
2 Testosterone Enanthate/Cypionate/Prop 100/100/50mg/ml $195.00 390.00
1 HCG 11,000 USP $105.00 105.00
30 Anastrozole 1mg cap (30) $5.67 170.00
70 Stanozolol 50mg Troche (100) $8.00 560.00
70 Oxandrolone 50mg (100) $10.00 700.00
100 Cytomel 50mcg (100) $3.00 300.00
0.00
25 18 g x 1.5" syringe 3ml $0.50 12.50
50 23 g x 1.5" needle or 1" $0.50 25.00
50 29 g x 1/2" syringe 1ml $0.50 25.00
Dr. Initial Visit-($80)/ Follow up($65)/ F2F(150) $80.00 80.00
SHIPPING: 2 Day Delivery 25.00
SHIP INST.: All packages Signature Required
TOTAL 2,392.50
AGGRESSIVE/W/HGH THERAPY
Qty Product Description Pricel/Unit Total Retail
2 Testosterone Enanthate/Cypionate/Prop 100/100/50mg/ml $195.00 390.00
1 HCG 11,000 USP $105.00 105.00
30 Anastrozole 1mg cap (30) $5.67 170.00
70 Stanozolol 50mg Troche (100) $8.00 560.00
70 Oxandrolone 50mg (100) $10.00 700.00
100 Cytomel 50mcg (100) $3.00 300.00
10 Tev-Tropin 5mg 15 ius $215.00 2,150.00
25 18 g x 1.5" syringe 3ml $0.50 12.50
50 23 g x 1.5" needle or 1" $0.50 25.00
50 29 g x 1/2" syringe 1ml $0.50 25.00
Dr. Initial Visit-($80)/ Follow up($65)/ F2F(150) $80.00 80.00
SHIPPING: 2 Day Delivery 25.00
SHIP INST.: All packages Signature Required
TOTAL 4,542.50
MAXIMUS HRT
Chip Wadowski
President
Direct: (248) 345-8412
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What are your opinions of this Clinic? i am probably going to switch to them. i would like to hear some feed back before i do though.
I just talked to "mike" from Maximus and what is odd is when I called ulv their main guy is also named MIKE! But goes by todd? Does this seem odd? They posted that the owner of minimus ( haha) not Maximus had gotten into legal trouble and they were parting ways,
But mike at Maximus said ology wanted more money from them for advertising and they did not want to pay it, and that's why the parted!
What's also odd is both ulv and Maximus are both running out of.... Michigan which is also odd to me,
Almost seems as though chip got into trouble and now Maximus will eventually dissolve into ulv now that chip is out of the picture???
Also ulv is now excepting Maximus clients and the same people from ology and even here at meso are part of them such as the-det-oak,
Seems a bit weird to me is all!!!!
Any thoughts?
But mike at Maximus said ology wanted more money from them for advertising and they did not want to pay it, and that's why the parted!
What's also odd is both ulv and Maximus are both running out of.... Michigan which is also odd to me,
Almost seems as though chip got into trouble and now Maximus will eventually dissolve into ulv now that chip is out of the picture???
Also ulv is now excepting Maximus clients and the same people from ology and even here at meso are part of them such as the-det-oak,
Seems a bit weird to me is all!!!!
Any thoughts?
newbie23
New Member
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It's not a big deal I just wondered if maybe Maximus will eventually dissolve into ulv is all? I liked what I heard from mike when I talked to ulv, it's just frustrating because someone u trusted was not honest with u, and now we all have to make this change and u wonder who else will not be honest with u in the end of it all? I'm glad to see former clients from Maximus going to ulv it's just hard to take, is all, and a bit nerve racking
Sorry if I can across as an ass,
I will be going to ulv as well! They seem pretty cool!
I liked what I heard from mike when I talked to ulv, it's just frustrating because someone u trusted was not honest with u, and now we all have to make this change and u wonder who else will not be honest with u in the end of it all? I'm glad to see former clients from Maximus going to ulv it's just hard to take, is all, and a bit nerve racking Sorry if I can across as an ass,
I will be going to ulv as well! They seem pretty cool!
newbie23
New Member
it's not a big deal i just wondered if maybe maximus will eventually dissolve into ulv is all?
sorry if i can across as an ass,
i will be going to ulv as well! They seem pretty cool!
:d
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