Does testosterone always make you bloat?

[Silentlemon1011]

Aromasin. I used 12.5mg today and will take another in 3 days. I’ll keep this dose for a few weeks and get more bloodwork done.

BP was 169/85 at the clinic.

Also, please got grab some Celery seed extract.

It will help with the BP

There is a thread on it as well, works well

(Also some cialis if you have it around)

It wouldnt be a bad idea to pop one more Aromasin, just to kick start the process a bit.(Today)

Even if you are a massive responder to Aromasin, it still wont hurt you to have another 12.5 mg.

Throw some extra hydration in there too brother.

Stay safe

EDIT
Dont take fucking 50mg Aromasin,
That's insane.

 

[$BlackBeard]

that BP is high, lower E2, cardio and tons of spinach.

9hrs a week cardio already. Plenty of leafy greens each day. I don’t smoke or drink. I have a square or two of 85% chocolate a day. Most of the basic things a google search for lowering high BP are things I have been doing.

 

[$BlackBeard]

Also, please got grab some Celery seed extract.

It will help with the BP

There is a thread on it as well, works well

(Also some cialis if you have it around)

It wouldnt be a bad idea to pop one more Aromasin, just to kick start the process a bit.(Today)

Even if you are a massive responder to Aromasin, it still wont hurt you to have another 12.5 mg.

Throw some extra hydration in there too brother.

Stay safe

EDIT
Dont take fucking 50mg Aromasin,
That's insane.

Thanks @Silentlemon1011 all points noted.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Thanks @Silentlemon1011 all points noted.

I'll have to find the study,

But Aromasin at 25 mg has been shown to decrease aromatization by 98% in many cases.

Onviously this is a bit different when you're facing supraphysiological levels of Testosterone.

If you are an extreme responder to Aromasin, you should still be okay at 25mg (25mg is what is prescribed to women fighting Cancer)

Keep us posted brother.

 

[$BlackBeard]

Here is the link to celery seed extract - Celery seed extract

25mg Aromasin taken today.

Celery seed extract and olive leaf extract tomorrow (dosing tbd) and will monitor BP.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Here is the link to celery seed extract - Celery seed extract

25mg Aromasin taken today.

Celery seed extract and olive leaf extract tomorrow (dosing tbd) and will monitor BP.

The OP on that thread @JC Grifter has a lot of knowledge.
I'm sure he can help you out with the BP supplements.

I never have BP problems, so I honestly cant come from a place of experience to help.

After a gram of gear for 14 weeks... I'm usually 130/80s.

So I'm not the guy to help with dosage or protocols.
Good luck bro

 

[TAKESHI]

Also, please got grab some Celery seed extract.

It will help with the BP

There is a thread on it as well, works well

(Also some cialis if you have it around)

It wouldnt be a bad idea to pop one more Aromasin, just to kick start the process a bit.(Today)

Even if you are a massive responder to Aromasin, it still wont hurt you to have another 12.5 mg.

Throw some extra hydration in there too brother.

Stay safe

EDIT
Dont take fucking 50mg Aromasin,
That's insane.

Lol, 50mg of aromasin is not insane especially for someone with E2 @130pg.
I ONLY use pharma AI and Serms. When When I had a grape size lump appear out of nowhere, about a month ago I smashed my E2 with 3 grams of Pharma Adex until I could get some more Raloxifene. Anyway I felt like I had a hangover for a few days, not very insane though. I think everyone feels better with slightly high estrogen and, I also feel like it helps with recovery. Keeping everything under control is much easier on trt then on blast. The two should not be treated the same, regardless of if you have had gyno prior.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Lol, 50mg of aromasin is not insane especially for someone with E2 @130pg.
I ONLY use pharma AI and Serms. When When I had a grape size lump appear out of nowhere, about a month ago I smashed my E2 with 3 grams of Pharma Adex until I could get some more Raloxifene. Anyway I felt like I had a hangover for a few days, not very insane though. I think everyone feels better with slightly high estrogen and, I also feel like it helps with recovery. Keeping everything under control is much easier on trt then on blast. The two should not be treated the same, regardless of if you have had gyno prior.

YOU are okay with 3mg (I assume you meant mg) of Adex.

We all respond differently

If @$BlackBeard looks after his BP with the above mentioned items and METHODICALLY works on his E2.
That's the safest route.

If I pop 6.25 mg Aromasin, my e2 plummets.

I dont aromatise much , but for some reason I respond hard to AI. cant tell ya why lol.

If I took 50mg of Aromasin, id be in a corner with mass depression... too scared to move, in case I destroy my crusty joints lol.

25 is a solid but, he should start seeing some solid help tomorow

It's best not to overload on anything, I'm a fan of a multiple approach method and using moderation.

 

[TAKESHI]

YOU are okay with 3mg (I assume you meant mg) of Adex.

We all respond differently

If @$BlackBeard looks after his BP with the above mentioned items and METHODICALLY works on his E2.
That's the safest route.

If I pop 6.25 mg Aromasin, my e2 plummets.

I dont aromatise much , but for some reason I respond hard to AI. cant tell ya why lol.

If I took 50mg of Aromasin, id be in a corner with mass depression... too scared to move, in case I destroy my crusty joints lol.

25 is a solid but, he should start seeing some solid help tomorow

It's best not to overload on anything, I'm a fan of a multiple approach method and using moderation.

No I agree with the moderation.

I think you missed my point with the gyno. Gyno can move quickly!! I was running 600 mg test and 900mg EQ, Var and Winny. I was only using 12.5 mg of aromasin EOD. Everything felt great no signs of elevated EZ, no puffy or itchy nippies. Within 48 hours I sprouted a fucking GRAPE size lump not even on my nipple, but down and to the side.

Yes I took 3mg of Pharma Adex but not all at once. Over the course of a few day. I needed to quickly crush my E2.!i had my RALOXIFENE in two days I have four pills left and that lump in fucking gone!

 

[ManK]

with 147 e2 and that BP, id take 25 ed to start, also because it use time to build up

 

[$BlackBeard]

I have to admit, I thought I was as educated as I could be before starting up AAS after a very long break. I never had any BP issues and during my re-education process on this journey, I dismissed BP issues as problems other people deal with - not me.

Well, with the weight gain over the past 5 weeks and knowing it's mostly water, it got me thinking that I missed something. I'm glad I started to address this yesterday and I hope that this thread may be able to help someone out with similar issues.

I took 25mg Aromasin yesterday and yes @ManK, I read that it can take 2-3days to take hold. I'll keep this thread updated over the next week or so.

 

[Big_paul]

If you control e2 that keeps water retention under control.

 

[ManK]

I'll have to find the study,

But Aromasin at 25 mg has been shown to decrease aromatization by 98% in many cases.

yes, but on menopausal woman with breast cancer not in a men with 500 test exogenous.
I remeber a study on a young boy (with normal tt value) with gyno where 1 mg anastrozole day (full dose) reduced E2 around 50% while same dose on breast cancer woman reduced e2 80%.

 

[$BlackBeard]

If you control e2 that keeps water retention under control.

Yes sir. Trying to find the Goldilocks zone for E2 for me.

 

[T L]

That BP would freak me out lol. If you can’t figure it out, I would stop taking gear. Why don’t you have a personal BP monitor?

 

[$BlackBeard]

I do now and BP has never been an issue. It’s always been normal-low.

 

[T L]

I do now and BP has never been an issue. It’s always been normal-low.

Good on ya. Much luck, brother! Keep us updated.

 

[LooneyTuned]

Ops probably a fatass

 

[T L]

Ops probably a fatass

Was wondering about that... maybe they need to lower BF before doing any more cycles.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

yes, but on menopausal woman with breast cancer not in a men with 500 test exogenous.
I remeber a study on a young boy (with normal tt value) with gyno where 1 mg anastrozole day (full dose) reduced E2 around 50% while same dose on breast cancer woman reduced e2 80%.

You left out my next line...
"Its obviously quite different when dealing with supraphysiological levels of testosterone, but you get my point"

Aromasin is also a suicide AI.
This is an excellent table for reference on the Inhibition of Aromatase enzyme.

Aromatase inhibitor - Wikipedia

inhibition is quite different case to case.

I know one vet in particular here who takes 1mg Dex ED for 200mg Test EW on cruise.

Best to start low and increase