Dope and it’s never ending Grip on my life

[Holidaypay]

That shit is taking everyone out i carried my dead brother into the hospital over my shoulder cause of h.don't let ur past choices fuck wit ur head u made it out alive count yourself lucky an never look back i hope u win this fight an if u ever get the thought to use just remember it is a fight an u wouldnt just let someone kill you don't let dope do it either best of luck bud pm me if u ever need someone to bulshit with an keep your mind busy

 

[Gaynz39]

What's up brotha, I'm glad you were able to pull through it. I do have a question and am asking with all due respect. How is your wife with the whole situation?

The Wife has been thru it all, seem it all, stood beside me thru every bit of it, and has never give up on me to this day. It had been over 4 years since this happened. My life, the things I was doing over the last couple of months all lead up to this. I got caught at everything I was trying to get away with.

I’m talking about Meth to clear things up. Never done Heroin.

 

[brutus79]

You Bet. Thank You

Meetings? Sponsor? Or just going with the gym?

 

[Gaynz39]

Meetings? Sponsor? Or just going with the gym?

I’ve done the Meetings, the classes, none of that ever worked. None of it ever works, it’s the Addict that chooses whether they are done for good. Nothing else can make this happen, it’s up to the individual to make that decision. I stayed clean for i know atleast 4 years, but shit happens, and I always fall back on it. Thank God this was short lived.

 

[Havah]

I’ve done the Meetings, the classes, none of that ever worked. None of it ever works, it’s the Addict that chooses whether they are done for good. Nothing else can make this happen, it’s up to the individual to make that decision. I stayed clean for i know atleast 4 years, but shit happens, and I always fall back on it. Thank God this was short lived.

Facts tend to differ

Biggest mistake people make is tinking their experience apply to everyone else in the same situation, couldnt be more wrong

 

[Gaynz39]

Facts tend to differ

Biggest mistake people make is tinking their experience apply to everyone else in the same situation, couldnt be more wrong

I’m stating from my own History. I went thru ALL that shit. Nothing ever made me stop, or want to end it until I come to terms with it myself. Everyone is different in their own way.

 

[TX_Hempknight]

Stay strong bud. You have to make the choice of what controls you. The addiction, or you. I chose myself about 15 years ago and havent touched it since. I hope the best for you.

 

[tengtren]

By dope do you mean h or something else? Anyway it happens especially if you’ve done it for long, but you pulled yourself out which is the important part. Happened to me a few times before I was done, last time I did anything I was like “wtf this is a fuckin disappointment” and that was it.

I'm assuming "dope" is heroin? If so......you need to look into Kratom man. Shit is a life changer. I was an alcoholic for a very long time. While still lifting and taking AAS. SO STUPID! Kratom made me stop drinking completely. Lost 37lbs, gained Abs. I went from 247lbs to 210lbs with abs. Just from continuing to workout and stay on the same diet but just cut out drinking. I take it occasionally. Usually in the AM and PM like coffee in the AM and PM to sleep.
If u are addcited to heroin or anything really you should look into it. If u want message me and I can tell u were to get it for much better quality and price than headshops. Don't waste your money on that shit. Way overpriced and terrible quality. I wish they wouldn't sell it at headshops. It automatically gives it a bad image have read testimonials about people getting off of H with kratom. My buddy was a 10 plus years Oxy addict, at least 10 a day. I bought him a bag of Kratom and made him try it. He came to me 2 weeks later and said "dude thank you, I haven't taken a pill since then". Many many people have quit hard drugs and alcohol using Kratom. And before anyone says.....yes it can be addicting. But anything can. As long as u aren't taking massive amounts many times a day you'll be just fine. I can stop for weeks without any withdrawals at all. Which I usually stop every so often to reset my tolerance. Normally take it just on weekends and if it's been a bad day during the week. It really is an amazing plant. and yes you could say it's trading 1 addiction for another. But I'd much rather be addcited to Kratom than alcohol, pain pills or H.
I get an extensive physical at work because of my job. I run into burning buildings for work. So they go all out on the physicals. When I was drinking my doc was about to put me on meds for BP, cholesterol and my liver values were elevated significantly. I was drinking a handle of vodka a day. It was out of control. The year I started Kratom, my next physical ALL my numbers returned to normal AND that was on a Test Tren and Mast cycle too. Lol.

Look into man. Don't read all the propgaprop against it by the FDA. It's all bullshit. Every single death from it. (I believe there is like 16 now) ALL had harder drugs in their system like benzos, Oxy or H. When the autopsies were released. But they automatically blamed Kratom. Cause those other drugs have nothing to do with it. Hmmm.

Hit me up man. I know alot about the subject and can point u in the right direction. Addiction to anything is hell man. I've been there. If u don't contact me.....I wish u the best. Stay in the gym. Get big and just think about your gains not the dope. Get your mindset addicted to working out and gains!

Good luck man. U got this!

Dope means dope! He doesn't need kratom or any that bullshit he needs to not get high on ANYTHING!!

 

[brutus79]

I’ve done the Meetings, the classes, none of that ever worked. None of it ever works, it’s the Addict that chooses whether they are done for good. Nothing else can make this happen, it’s up to the individual to make that decision. I stayed clean for i know atleast 4 years, but shit happens, and I always fall back on it. Thank God this was short lived.

Thinking you are unique is going to be the death of you... and don't thank God for a short relapse- he stops paying attention the second you pick up. I have 25 years on and out of the rooms and have 7 years clean right now and can tell you in all that time all the people with your attitude keep funeral homes in business. Good luck.

 

[Gaynz39]

Thinking you are unique is going to be the death of you... and don't thank God for a short relapse- he stops paying attention the second you pick up. I have 25 years on and out of the rooms and have 7 years clean right now and can tell you in all that time all the people with your attitude keep funeral homes in business. Good luck.

I didn’t say anything about unique. I simply said that thru all the meetings, classes that I ever attended, nothing worked. Why? Because I didn’t want it bad enough. The mind is a very powerful thing. I’m a true believer if you want it, then You and you alone will achieve. There are no 2 ppl the same. I know COUNTLESS friends that have been to Court ordered Drug Rehabs, Classes, meetings. And MOST of them go back to the Dope. Why? Because the Drug Rehab was a fucking JOKE. It’s a Business, Drugs being dealt inside some of these so called Rehabs. I’ve been a part of it, I’ve seen a lot of it. It’s all in what the individual wants, and not some fucking class where everyone stands up and says hi, min billy Bob, and I’m a Drug addict. No one gives a Fuck

 

[Havah]

I didn’t say anything about unique. I simply said that thru all the meetings, classes that I ever attended, nothing worked. Why? Because I didn’t want it bad enough. The mind is a very powerful thing. I’m a true believer if you want it, then You and you alone will achieve. There are no 2 ppl the same. I know COUNTLESS friends that have been to Court ordered Drug Rehabs, Classes, meetings. And MOST of them go back to the Dope. Why? Because the Drug Rehab was a fucking JOKE. It’s a Business, Drugs being dealt inside some of these so called Rehabs. I’ve been a part of it, I’ve seen a lot of it. It’s all in what the individual wants, and not some fucking class where everyone stands up and says hi, min billy Bob, and I’m a Drug addict. No one gives a Fuck

Do you think court ordered patients are a good way to asses if rehab works ?

 

[brutus79]

I didn’t say anything about unique. I simply said that thru all the meetings, classes that I ever attended, nothing worked. Why? Because I didn’t want it bad enough. The mind is a very powerful thing. I’m a true believer if you want it, then You and you alone will achieve. There are no 2 ppl the same. I know COUNTLESS friends that have been to Court ordered Drug Rehabs, Classes, meetings. And MOST of them go back to the Dope. Why? Because the Drug Rehab was a fucking JOKE. It’s a Business, Drugs being dealt inside some of these so called Rehabs. I’ve been a part of it, I’ve seen a lot of it. It’s all in what the individual wants, and not some fucking class where everyone stands up and says hi, min billy Bob, and I’m a Drug addict. No one gives a Fuck

I look forward to your "oops I did it again post" because it will mean the dealer you use didn't put too much fentanyl in your next bundle. Of you have countless friends going to court ordered rehabs and classes and they go back to heroin perhaps you should find some friends who aren't douchebags. You are the company you keep... much as it seems you gravitated towards the scum at meetings.

 

[InFlames]

Dope means dope! He doesn't need kratom or any that bullshit he needs to not get high on ANYTHING!!

I was meaning as people use Kratom to ease the withdrawals of whatever they are addicted to. And then taper off the Kratom and be clean. Without going thru hell of full on withdrawals.... Kratom is a hell of alot easier to taper off of then say H. Of course he needs to stop the dope completely. But Kratom can be used as a tool to come off of it without being bed ridden for weeks with dope withdrawals. Kratom doesn't get u high anywhere near anything like H or even pain pills. It's just a mild feel good type feeling. But it helps tons of people get off hard drugs without dealing with the full on withdrawals. I meant it as a tool to use like I did to stop drinking. As alcohol withdrawals can literally kill you. It made my transition so much easier. And now I just take Kratom if I've had a bad day or just want to relax. Kratom isn't anywhere near what the media says about it but it's a great thing for people that are addicted to hard drugs to get clean without feeling the full effects of withdrawal.

I know I repeated my self a couple times lol. But just wanted to make it clear I wasn't meaning for him to get hooked on another substance. I guess it came across that way since I was saying I still use it even though I've stopped drinking. But like I said I don't take it anywhere near the amount that I was drinking. I was drinking daily.....killing my body and my gains in the gym. It was just a suggestion to help him rid himself of the dope. Just a tool in the toolbox of getting clean. Stopping cold turkey with any addictive drug is hell. Hence why they use methadone and Suboxone to get people off of heroin. But those can be ridiculously addictive as well. Just trying to give him some advice on how to get clean and stay clean. And if he has an urge to use after he's gotten off and tapered down from the kratom. He could take some Kratom to kill that urge and relapse on a much harder deadly drug.

I can see and respect where u are coming from though and u are right. He doesn't need to get hooked on anything else. I was gonna give him advice on how to take Kratom to get off the dope and then taper off the Kratom to be completely clean without going thru the hell of withdrawal if he contacted me. That's was my main point of posting that.

Edit. Just saw he said it is Meth. People have used Kratom as well to get off of Meth as well. My buddy used it to get off of Adderall. Which makes u pop hot for methamphetamine.... It's a great tool to have to get you sober.

 

[InFlames]

The Wife has been thru it all, seem it all, stood beside me thru every bit of it, and has never give up on me to this day. It had been over 4 years since this happened. My life, the things I was doing over the last couple of months all lead up to this. I got caught at everything I was trying to get away with.

I’m talking about Meth to clear things up. Never done Heroin.

That's an awesome woman. You need to thank the hell out of her. We always hurt the ones closest to us in an addiction situation. Thank that woman! And stay clean for her!

 

[Gaynz39]

That's an awesome woman. You need to thank the hell out of her. We always hurt the ones closest to us in an addiction situation. Thank that woman! And stay clean for her!

You are 100% correct my Friend. She has battled thru everything I have ever done. I am forever in debt to this woman, she could never be repaid for what I have put her thru. She refuses to throw in the Towel, and I don’t know why. There isn’t a more faithful person in this World, she is a Very Special Woman.

 

[InFlames]

You are 100% correct my Friend. She has battled thru everything I have ever done. I am forever in debt to this woman, she could never be repaid for what I have put her thru. She refuses to throw in the Towel, and I don’t know why. There isn’t a more faithful person in this World, she is a Very Special Woman.

Repay her by staying clean and loving the hell out of her!

 

[The Terminator]

Dope means dope! He doesn't need kratom or any that bullshit he needs to not get high on ANYTHING!!

In DARE lingo yes but from my experience dope referred to h. And yes he definitely doesn’t need no garbage kratom, I had a post written in response to the kratom salesman but fell asleep before posting it: gone now but basically avoid it esp since he wasn’t even using opioids.

 

[The Terminator]

I was meaning as people use Kratom to ease the withdrawals of whatever they are addicted to. And then taper off the Kratom and be clean. Without going thru hell of full on withdrawals.... Kratom is a hell of alot easier to taper off of then say H. Of course he needs to stop the dope completely. But Kratom can be used as a tool to come off of it without being bed ridden for weeks with dope withdrawals. Kratom doesn't get u high anywhere near anything like H or even pain pills. It's just a mild feel good type feeling. But it helps tons of people get off hard drugs without dealing with the full on withdrawals. I meant it as a tool to use like I did to stop drinking. As alcohol withdrawals can literally kill you. It made my transition so much easier. And now I just take Kratom if I've had a bad day or just want to relax. Kratom isn't anywhere near what the media says about it but it's a great thing for people that are addicted to hard drugs to get clean without feeling the full effects of withdrawal.

I know I repeated my self a couple times lol. But just wanted to make it clear I wasn't meaning for him to get hooked on another substance. I guess it came across that way since I was saying I still use it even though I've stopped drinking. But like I said I don't take it anywhere near the amount that I was drinking. I was drinking daily.....killing my body and my gains in the gym. It was just a suggestion to help him rid himself of the dope. Just a tool in the toolbox of getting clean. Stopping cold turkey with any addictive drug is hell. Hence why they use methadone and Suboxone to get people off of heroin. But those can be ridiculously addictive as well. Just trying to give him some advice on how to get clean and stay clean. And if he has an urge to use after he's gotten off and tapered down from the kratom. He could take some Kratom to kill that urge and relapse on a much harder deadly drug.

I can see and respect where u are coming from though and u are right. He doesn't need to get hooked on anything else. I was gonna give him advice on how to take Kratom to get off the dope and then taper off the Kratom to be completely clean without going thru the hell of withdrawal if he contacted me. That's was my main point of posting that.

Edit. Just saw he said it is Meth. People have used Kratom as well to get off of Meth as well. My buddy used it to get off of Adderall. Which makes u pop hot for methamphetamine.... It's a great tool to have to get you sober.

Are you selling kratom or something?

Edit: Using kratom to quit adderall? Terrible advice..I pity your “friend.”

 

[movingiron88]

I like to shoot Kratom. Drinking that shit is for quitters. i just mix that shit up with 50 ml of bac water and hit it. Not Intermuscular of course, that would just be stupid.

 

[InFlames]

Are you selling kratom or something?

Edit: Using kratom to quit adderall? Terrible advice..I pity your “friend.”

No I'm not. And it worked for him and many others that I've read people posting on it about how it helped them quit. As there are different types of it. One is a more energetic type and gives focus like Adderall does.
But I'll stop recommending it. As people seem to be against it here. Was just trying to help the dude with something that could possibly get him clean without going thru withdraw hell. If it didn't help get me clean from alcohol and my buddy with the pain pills and Adderall I wouldn't be recommending it.