Doses for no clitoral growth? Test? Var? Winny?

A dr prescribed you Winstrol, anavar and deca or test prop? They definitely would not do this if they thought you had pcos.
stop take testosterone and stop taking anavar and stop taking Winstrol. If you want to to burn fat eat in a deficit. Your story doesn’t add up or make any sense. I’m just being honest.
Screw off go troll some other thread
 
Pretty much
However, some guys in Meso have helped me diagnose shit that specialists havnt been able to.

Some times it's like wading through the sewers looking for the perfect log.... but it can be quite fruitful.... there are some seriously intelligent guys in Meso




I dont see how Deca/Var/Winnie stack could have anything to do with Autoimmune issues.
If anything, it will make it far worse.

I have 2 autoimmune diseases and Winnie fucks me up back, when it comes to my autoimmune gastritis.
Consider also that autoimmune antibodies dont always specifically target a single organ/receptor/ area etc

It sounds like you need a new doctor..... asap.

You may have wanted to reveal that you are taking PEDs for autoimmune issues as well.
There are a FUCK TONNE of us here with autoimmune issues, who see a plethora of excellent doctors and specialists.
Yes thank you. Deca is for displacement of inflammatory phytoestrogens and the single weekly dose of winny is for shbg reduction. The var was an option for extra fat burning. Test p is what I did myself for years before seeking drs.

I have 3 male friends who cured Crohns/ibs with test and deca as HRT with the same dr. My issues were mild at this point as a very healthy lifestyle took care of most of it tho.

appreicate all the positive and helpful responses
 
Screw off go troll some other thread
I’m not trolling. Your story doesn’t add up.
Also, it’s not going to help if you keep dr hopping especially when it comes to hormones especially being a woman. It takes time to dial everything in, especially with women. Criticism and questioning isn’t trolling. I haven’t been disrespectful to you at all. But okay I’ll screw off, keep going down the road you’re going and enjoy facial hair, a deep voice, a larger clot, no periods, etc. essentially turning yourself into a man. Ovaries are much easier to screw up long term than a mans testicles. The androgenic side effects a woman gets are irreversible. You need to find a dr and work with them over time and come off all the drugs and go into a deficit. Women’s endocrine systems are much more sensitive and complicated than a mans. Good luck
 
I’m not trolling. Your story doesn’t add up.
Also, it’s not going to help if you keep dr hopping especially when it comes to hormones especially being a woman. It takes time to dial everything in, especially with women. Criticism and questioning isn’t trolling. I haven’t been disrespectful to you at all. But okay I’ll screw off, keep going down the road you’re going and enjoy facial hair, a deep voice, a larger clot, no periods, etc. essentially turning yourself into a man. Ovaries are much easier to screw up long term than a mans testicles. The androgenic side effects a woman gets are irreversible. You need to find a dr and work with them over time and come off all the drugs and go into a deficit. Women’s endocrine systems are much more sensitive and complicated than a mans. Good luck
4 specialists in 5 years. 2 GPs. Never sorted it out. I don’t jump. You make assumptions and say things don’t add up like it’s fun to come lie on here? For what? What gain? Try not being a dick.
 
4 specialists in 5 years. 2 GPs. Never sorted it out. I don’t jump. You make assumptions and say things don’t add up like it’s fun to come lie on here? For what? What gain? Try not being a dick.
Try not being so sensitive. I’m not being a dick. You’re dr hopping because you don’t have patience. You put yourself on test prop. Stop taking the damn drugs. A dr gave you test prop and Winstrol?
 
I got some both times. The deca round was radically faster and bigger.

why the quick attack? Isn’t this a place to help each other?
Defensive much? I understand you are frustrated but I was simply asking a question after reading both post that you posted minutes apart from each other, that is all. There is no hidden meaning or agenda here.

You should probably find a better doctor. But then again, who am I? Just some random person on a forum. I hope everything works out for you.
 
Defensive much? I understand you are frustrated but I was simply asking a question after reading both post that you posted minutes apart from each other, that is all. There is no hidden meaning or agenda here.

You should probably find a better doctor. But then again, who am I? Just some random person on a forum. I hope everything works out for you.
Kindly thank you
 
Defensive much? I understand you are frustrated but I was simply asking a question after reading both post that you posted minutes apart from each other, that is all. There is no hidden meaning or agenda here.

You should probably find a better doctor. But then again, who am I? Just some random person on a forum. I hope everything works out for you.
Exactly this, just bunch of strangers trying to understand what's exactly going on
 
Exactly this, just bunch of strangers trying to understand what's exactly going on
She’s been told a couple of times the best advice which it drop the drugs. She doesn’t want to hear the truth. I’m curious about the “dr” who gave her var, Winnie, deca and test prop. Her story doesn’t make sense. At first she said she put herself on test prop then I asked her if the dr did and she said yes.
 
She’s been told a couple of times the best advice which it drop the drugs. She doesn’t want to hear the truth. I’m curious about the “dr” who gave her var, Winnie, deca and test prop. Her story doesn’t make sense. At first she said she put herself on test prop then I asked her if the dr did and she said yes.
I’m retarded and don’t know what I’m talking about. Thanks guys for being so helpful in the female arena. I had test both from my self and the dr. The drugs were dropped. You should go stick some more tren to be more understanding and kind tho. ;)
 
I’m retarded and don’t know what I’m talking about. Thanks guys for being so helpful in the female arena. I had test both from my self and the dr. The drugs were dropped. You should go stick some more tren to be more understanding and kind tho. ;)
You came here for advice? Honestly, getting off the drugs is the best advice currently. Look around, do some research, ask questions. Once you’ve done that, then you can consider trying AAS again. Unless you’re ok with an enlarged clit and a beard.
 
Hi all. 35 year old female. Have used test and anavar for 4-5 years. After being on low dose test prop 4mg 3x a week for about a year I slowly got clitoral growth that was not good. I continued on as I felt great and tried to dial back to 3mg 3x a week. It still seemed to increase.

I’ve come off and I feel terrible. Depressed, zero sex drive but mostly sad. Blood work shows high test levels and low but still normal estrogen.

I want to start something now that’s long term sustainable but I can’t induce anymore clitoral growth.

I was thinking of 5mg var and maybe 3mg 2x a week of prop? It’s so hard to do ultra small doses and I wonder if my UG labs are over dosed maybe??

I’ve felt great on winny and var as well. Looking for some guidance on who’s run this stuff longer term?

im at my max clit size :(

really trying to burn some fat and feel good for summer
At only 35 you should bounce back if you stop taking hormones. How long ago did you stop? What else are you still taking?

I would definitely NOT do what you say you are planning in your fourth paragraph.
 
Way back when, when I would cycle off I would take Wellbutrin for the depression, eca stacks for the lack of energy and creatine to help keep muscle size. Lower sex drive was usually a good thing for me and made me more compatible with the girls I was with so I can't help there.

Did your voice deepen? My girl has thought about trying something but the voice deepening is the number 1 side she's worried about
 
Hi all. 35 year old female. Have used test and anavar for 4-5 years. After being on low dose test prop 4mg 3x a week for about a year I slowly got clitoral growth that was not good. I continued on as I felt great and tried to dial back to 3mg 3x a week. It still seemed to increase.

I’ve come off and I feel terrible. Depressed, zero sex drive but mostly sad. Blood work shows high test levels and low but still normal estrogen.

I want to start something now that’s long term sustainable but I can’t induce anymore clitoral growth.

I was thinking of 5mg var and maybe 3mg 2x a week of prop? It’s so hard to do ultra small doses and I wonder if my UG labs are over dosed maybe??

I’ve felt great on winny and var as well. Looking for some guidance on who’s run this stuff longer term?

im at my max clit size :(

really trying to burn some fat and feel good for summer
In hysterectomized women, dosages of up to 25 mg testosterone enanthate weekly for 24 weeks don't appear to affect clitoral size to a significant degree: Testosterone dose-response relationships in hysterectomized women with or without oophorectomy: effects on sexual function, body composition, muscle performance and physical function in a randomized trial - PubMed
That means that, if you correctly dosed that testosterone P, then you're simply very prone to clitoral growth by androgens. This basically means that "any" dosage will be too much for you. How sure are you about the correctness of the doses you injected at the time?

Other than that, it doesn't sound a good idea in your case to use AAS—but that's, of course, up to you.
 
In hysterectomized women, dosages of up to 25 mg testosterone enanthate weekly for 24 weeks don't appear to affect clitoral size to a significant degree: Testosterone dose-response relationships in hysterectomized women with or without oophorectomy: effects on sexual function, body composition, muscle performance and physical function in a randomized trial - PubMed
That means that, if you correctly dosed that testosterone P, then you're simply very prone to clitoral growth by androgens. This basically means that "any" dosage will be too much for you. How sure are you about the correctness of the doses you injected at the time?

Other than that, it doesn't sound a good idea in your case to use AAS—but that's, of course, up to you.
Does it say that? Do you have the whole study? The abstract you link says "The frequency of androgenic adverse events was low." That is the only statement I see. Where is the "don't appear to affect clitoral size to a significant degree" evidence?

What is present is a raise in hematocrit and a lowering of HDL. Poorer bloodwork on such small amounts of testosterone.
 
Does it say that? Do you have the whole study? The abstract you link says "The frequency of androgenic adverse events was low." That is the only statement I see. Where is the "don't appear to affect clitoral size to a significant degree" evidence?

What is present is a raise in hematocrit and a lowering of HDL. Poorer bloodwork on such small amounts of testosterone.
The full text is freely available here: Testosterone Dose-Response Relationships in Hysterectomized Women with and without Oophorectomy: Effects on Sexual Function, Body Composition, Muscle Performance and Physical Function in a Randomized Trial
 
We carefully monitored the androgenic side effects using structured instruments – hair growth using the Ferriman-Gallwey scale, sebum production using the Sebu-Tape, acne using the Palatsi scale, and clitoral size using a caliper scale.
 
After reading this thread, I’ve decided I’m gonna ask my wife if she wants to take some test and deca to get a bigger clit, so I can fit more of it in my mouth, and rage-suck her macroclit until she begs me to stop or, kicks me in the face and knocks me unconscious from orgasmic convulsions. I’m into that shit because of all this tren I haven’t taken yet.
 
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