DP Test E oil which is better and why?

Wood4days

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So I placed an order with [emoji236] and I notice that some Test E bottles use Apricot Kernel oil and some use Sesame seed oil.

Is there any difference? Does one cause more pip than others?

First pic is from my order and the second pic is what I googled

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On a side note I have seen those dragon bottles for years I didn't make the connection when he came here. He is a brand on naps to or he was haven't Ben there in forever but either way that's cool even if he sucks at brewing I get raws an imo this is another sighn he isn't part of panda
 
I found this on the web

“Benzyl Alcohol (BA) is used to increase the lipid solubility of esterfied compounds and to prevent bacteria growth in the oil. Most UGL's use excess BA or only BA as the co-solvent, due to it's modest price. Unfortunately, it can cause the destruction of cells and significant localised pain and inflammation. The discomfort is characterised by fairly rapid onset of a painful, red, swollen area.

The shorter an ester, the less solubility is has in oil. This necessitates higher concentrations of BA to prevent the compound from 'crashing' out of solution. When the oil is injected, the BA is absorbed from the location of the oil depot. This caused the active compound to precipitate fine crystals within the muscle. The onset of this pain is often 4-12 hours after injection and is characterised by a hard, red, swelling at the injection site. To prevent this an additional co-solvent is needed, Benzyl Benzoate. BB maintains solubility of the esterfied compound past the point at which BA has been removed, preventing crystaline precipitation. Most UGL's don't add this to their compounded oils due to the higher cost. If added at approximately 20% by volume you can prevent most associated short ester pain.”

“From what I have read, BB is a solvent, so it melts some compounds. And as the result, it will keep a solution from forming crystals aka "crashing" and make it hold.”
 
I found this on the web

“Benzyl Alcohol (BA) is used to increase the lipid solubility of esterfied compounds and to prevent bacteria growth in the oil. Most UGL's use excess BA or only BA as the co-solvent, due to it's modest price. Unfortunately, it can cause the destruction of cells and significant localised pain and inflammation. The discomfort is characterised by fairly rapid onset of a painful, red, swollen area.

The shorter an ester, the less solubility is has in oil. This necessitates higher concentrations of BA to prevent the compound from 'crashing' out of solution. When the oil is injected, the BA is absorbed from the location of the oil depot. This caused the active compound to precipitate fine crystals within the muscle. The onset of this pain is often 4-12 hours after injection and is characterised by a hard, red, swelling at the injection site. To prevent this an additional co-solvent is needed, Benzyl Benzoate. BB maintains solubility of the esterfied compound past the point at which BA has been removed, preventing crystaline precipitation. Most UGL's don't add this to their compounded oils due to the higher cost. If added at approximately 20% by volume you can prevent most associated short ester pain.”

“From what I have read, BB is a solvent, so it melts some compounds. And as the result, it will keep a solution from forming crystals aka "crashing" and make it hold.”

Yeh ur right high bb can cause iritation so experienced brewers use minimal amounts 20% is rarely needed in normal concentration brews any more is not needed unless dealing with bases /lotions Etc. Test e 250 doesn't need any bb so that's crazy eo is a preference but still a high ass %
 
On a side note I have seen those dragon bottles for years I didn't make the connection when he came here. He is a brand on naps to or he was haven't Ben there in forever but either way that's cool even if he sucks at brewing I get raws an imo this is another sighn he isn't part of panda

Ignore this I thought dragon ordnance an dragon pharma were the same I was wrong
 
Agree- EO is a bitch too- It stinks and a lot of people including myself dont react well to it. Knots that take a week to go away and fever like conditions.
Yeah, it might be uncomfortable. Those ratios seem like a lazy, one size fits all type of brewing. You don't need that much BB, nor do you even need EO at all.
 
Seems like every time you order from a source they send your order to a different location that ships it but each location regardless if they all sell dragon [emoji236] products have different brew method.

So they don’t get their products directly from dragon? Do these sources just brew their own dragon gear and sell it as authorized dragon products?
 
Yeah, but like i said, it may be uncomfortable. The EO may even help. i personally like EO, it's very smooth, but it's definitely not for everybody.
agree- anytime Im thinking of trying a new source I ask what products they use EO in. If you already have the stuff give it a go and see how you react. Plenty of people like Mister are just fine with it. If you dont have issues, you are g2g. If you do, at least you know next time to check on what is being used in the product.
I just dont get why they used everything they did for test e- seems like overkill
 
agree- anytime Im thinking of trying a new source I ask what products they use EO in. If you already have the stuff give it a go and see how you react. Plenty of people like Mister are just fine with it. If you dont have issues, you are g2g. If you do, at least you know next time to check on what is being used in the product.
I just dont get why they used everything they did for test e- seems like overkill

I'm at the other end of the spectrum and react really badly to EO. Even at 10% it leaves me hobbled for days. I had some NPP with EO in it the last time I used it and I barely made it the whole ten weeks. I made the mistake of doing a delt shot and I literally couldn't move my arm.

Using EO and that much BB in 250mg/ml test e is just plain lazy. The case could be made for using the EO to thin out the brew...but just use a thinner oil like MCT to begin with if that's the desired result.
 
I just contacted Dragon official site and they told me this and I quote

“Label mistake we don’t use ethyl oil anymore for years it’s printing mistake

Regards
DP”

Ok I hope so but why would they use this label if they haven’t t been using EO for “years”?

I dunno I’ll just pin and find out
 
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