Dragon Pharma Sustanon 350 - HPLC/TAMC/TYMC - 2019-03 - SIMEC via AnabolicLab.com

[Delt123]

I forget if the samples are sent blind or in the packaging but it’s through Simec, a no shit accredited lab in a country where AAS is legal, even if the sample is sent in the original vial a lab like that isn’t ruining its reputation over an AAS sample.

I thought SIMEC was accredited?

What does it even mean actually? That they are licenced and/or skilled enough to do testing?

 

[MisterSuperGod]

I thought SIMEC was accredited?

What does it even mean actually? That they are licenced and/or skilled enough to do testing?

i take it to mean that they operate legally. Meaning they have the approval from (their) government thugs to legally test anabolic steroids.

 

[Delt123]

i take it to mean that they operate legally. Meaning they have the approval from (their) government thugs to legally test anabolic steroids.

Thanks!

 

[randomguy87]

I am going to retract this lab report now pending further investigation. This is why.

I think SIMEC made a mistake. Dragon Pharma Sustanon 350 advertises three testosterone esters:

testosterone enanthate
testosterone cypionate
testosterone propionate

SIMEC tested the product for the following four testosterones:

testosterone propionate
testosterone isocaproate
testosterone decanoate
testosterone phenylpropionate

SIMEC tested for the wrong esters.

SIMEC didn't find isocaproate, decanoate, phenylpropionate because Dragon Pharma did not include them in the formulation.

SIMEC didn't find enanthate or cypionate because they apparently did not look for those esters.

Is that how all of their tests are done? They only test for whats on the label? So even though something could be correctly dosed for whats on the label it could have another compound in it without anyone knowing?

 

[RThoads]

Is that how all of their tests are done? They only test for whats on the label? So even though something could be correctly dosed for whats on the label it could have another compound in it without anyone knowing?

HPLC is a from of chromatography. It separates solutions into their components and each component interact with the "column" (i am comparing to column chromatography for simplicity) at different rates; thus, each exit into the detector at a different time and give a signal. A standard is used to compare against and identify those signals.

Therefore, another peak would show up on the HPLC for additional compounds. But without running against the standards for the (potentially) additional compounds, their identities would be unknown. However, they would give a peak to show presence (if they existed in the solution).

 

[rpbb]

Simec dropped the ball on this one. The other peaks would have showed up, and they should have questioned it.

 

[randomguy87]

HPLC is a from of chromatography. It separates solutions into their components and each component interact with the "column" (i am comparing to column chromatography for simplicity) at different rates; thus, each exit into the detector at a different time and give a signal. A standard is used to compare against and identify those signals.

Therefore, another peak would show up on the HPLC for additional compounds. But without running against the standards for the (potentially) additional compounds, their identities would be unknown. However, they would give a peak to show presence (if they existed in the solution).

Great info, thanks!

 

[godsgifttoearth]

I am going to retract this lab report now pending further investigation. This is why.

I think SIMEC made a mistake. Dragon Pharma Sustanon 350 advertises three testosterone esters:

testosterone enanthate
testosterone cypionate
testosterone propionate

SIMEC tested the product for the following four testosterones:

testosterone propionate
testosterone isocaproate
testosterone decanoate
testosterone phenylpropionate

SIMEC tested for the wrong esters.

SIMEC didn't find isocaproate, decanoate, phenylpropionate because Dragon Pharma did not include them in the formulation.

SIMEC didn't find enanthate or cypionate because they apparently did not look for those esters.

did the original report show test prop?

 

[Millard]

The Dragon Pharma Sustanon 350 lab report has been retracted pending further investigation into likely mistake by SIMEC.

SIMEC didn't find enanthate or cypionate because they apparently did not look for those esters.

Therefore, another peak would show up on the HPLC for additional compounds. But without running against the standards for the (potentially) additional compounds, their identities would be unknown. However, they would give a peak to show presence (if they existed in the solution).

The product passed AnabolicLab after SIMEC calculated the results based on the additional information provided about testosterone enanthte and cypionate as ingredients in Dragon Pharma "Sustanon 350".

The revised SIMEC test report will be posted on AnabolicLab.com shortly.

This is the information SIMEC provided regarding the need for the revised report:

"Parameters corrected, as the ingredients were not listed on the vial, the most common composition for "Sustanon" was assumed and accordingly analyzed; new results were calculated after we got he according information of the compounds of the manufacturer... we generally analyse on specific compounds and do not perform general screenings in order to identify unknown/unexpected signals."​

 

[Aesthetictech]

The product passed AnabolicLab after SIMEC calculated the results based on the additional information provided about testosterone enanthte and cypionate as ingredients in Dragon Pharma "Sustanon 350".

The revised SIMEC test report will be posted on AnabolicLab.com shortly.

This is the information SIMEC provided regarding the need for the revised report:

"Parameters corrected, as the ingredients were not listed on the vial, the most common composition for "Sustanon" was assumed and accordingly analyzed; new results were calculated after we got he according information of the compounds of the manufacturer... we generally analyse on specific compounds and do not perform general screenings in order to identify unknown/unexpected signals."​

So judging by the way the compounds are being tested, you also wouldn’t know if they are contaminated with a completely different compound either right? Since they’re only comparing to standards of compounds that are claimed on the label?

 

[Millard]

So judging by the way the compounds are being tested, you also wouldn’t know if they are contaminated with a completely different compound either right? Since they’re only comparing to standards of compounds that are claimed on the label?

That is correct.

 

[AnabolicLab.com]

The revised SIMEC test report has been posted on AnabolicLab.com:

Dragon Pharma Sustanon 350 was determined to have an actual content of 185 mg/ml testosterone enanthate, 101 mg/ml testosterone cypionate and 52 mg/ml testosterone propionate compared to the manufacturer's advertised claim of 200, 100 and 50 mg/ml, respectively.

No microbiological contamination was detected.

Steroid analytics courtesy of AnabolicLab.com: Dragon Pharma Sustanon 350 Lab Test Results - Anabolic Lab

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[FLTestlab]

Blinded test results does not mean what I think you think it means.

None of the AnabolicLab analyses are blinded. SIMEC knows exactly what they are analyzing.

But what is most important is that manufacturers, vendors and sources do not submit samples. They are not informed when their products are tested or which products are tested. And all samples are obtained by secret shoppers without the sources' knowledge.

I was just going to say something close to that. I never had a problem with DP and if I did I would be on it for more than a year now. Well not the sus im on there TestE. I havnt tried there sus but from several ppl here in FL they said it is great. Thats not DPs problem it was the SEMiCs problem/mistake. Anyways great info. Thanks