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FastBun
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Meso going to shit… can’t vet people because they get their feelings hurt… people are scared to say things to not get banned…
iris
Well-known Member
This thing, how can you say stuff like this?
You know, I have been looking at how others go about stuff here.
I like being fair.
So, to clarify: some people will ask for pictures of your premises.
How you handle that request, we will see.
If you do provide some, UNLIKE others, it's a plus, for you.
However this pharma grade claim malarkey from a ugl lab may work as marketing stuff on your website, but not there, dear.
FastBun
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Dutch Labs
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@iris @FastBun
I agree with all of your points and please know that I would love to post lab pictures. We operate in full accord with MESO's harm reduction philosophy and we have been active on this board as users for years.
However, try to understand from our perspective that the potential negative costs of sharing photos of equipment outweighs the rewards.
The best I can do here is show pictures of glasswork and our small V-mixer machine since it is a generic one. All other equipment can be identified and traced back to us. I have on purpose made the stock picture more contrasted to not give away the closet model, which I was hesitant about to post.
To play devils advocate on the concept of lab photos, one could also just walk into any sort of professional lab at work, university, or at a friend and put a paper with MESO next to an autoclave and flow hood and most MESO members will be content with it.
Secondly, generally the more advanced the equipment the steeper the learning curve. What I mean here is that even if one has advanced equipment and shares photos of it, it does not mean that the they know and more importantly care about how to use them according to the right protocols.
Our brand has no aggressive marketing, but instead we put the focus on the pharma-grade quality that we promise and testing per each individual batch. As far as I know, almost no source does that at all, if indeed any.
We make the bold claim that we provide pharma-grade products. We use the products ourselves. Because of this we will provide endotoxin and sterility tests from time to time. I have actually inquired about this at Janoshik a couple days prior to starting this thread because I want to offer you the best. (feel free to ask Janoshik if you want to confirm this statement)
Endotoxin and sterility tests, in addition to quantitative/qualitative tests, are also fully reimbursed for clients.
I agree with all of your points and please know that I would love to post lab pictures. We operate in full accord with MESO's harm reduction philosophy and we have been active on this board as users for years.
However, try to understand from our perspective that the potential negative costs of sharing photos of equipment outweighs the rewards.
The best I can do here is show pictures of glasswork and our small V-mixer machine since it is a generic one. All other equipment can be identified and traced back to us. I have on purpose made the stock picture more contrasted to not give away the closet model, which I was hesitant about to post.
To play devils advocate on the concept of lab photos, one could also just walk into any sort of professional lab at work, university, or at a friend and put a paper with MESO next to an autoclave and flow hood and most MESO members will be content with it.
Secondly, generally the more advanced the equipment the steeper the learning curve. What I mean here is that even if one has advanced equipment and shares photos of it, it does not mean that the they know and more importantly care about how to use them according to the right protocols.
Our brand has no aggressive marketing, but instead we put the focus on the pharma-grade quality that we promise and testing per each individual batch. As far as I know, almost no source does that at all, if indeed any.
We make the bold claim that we provide pharma-grade products. We use the products ourselves. Because of this we will provide endotoxin and sterility tests from time to time. I have actually inquired about this at Janoshik a couple days prior to starting this thread because I want to offer you the best. (feel free to ask Janoshik if you want to confirm this statement)
Endotoxin and sterility tests, in addition to quantitative/qualitative tests, are also fully reimbursed for clients.
iris
Well-known Member
Or because the source has proved it's g2g and reliable with the info and service they provided and that is that.
If you don't like it, go shopping somewhere else.
That was me told.
You know, I learn my lessons.
I accept if I was ignorant.
But then i can also go apply those lessons and newly acquired awareness somewhere else.
FastBun
Member
That’s not you being ignorant… you have valid question… as far as opti ok what ever they been vouched for and does raws testing, finished what ever… hard when they are established… but these new clowns… even axle never posted his imaginary flow hood…Or because the source has proved it's g2g and reliable with the info and service they provided and that is that.
If you don't like it, go shopping somewhere else.
That was me told.
You know, I learn my lessons.
I accept if I was ignorant.
But then i can also go apply those lessons and newly acquired awareness somewhere else.
FastBun
Member
Bruv go source on SST or ProM you’ll have better luck there with your bullshit lies… we already deal with a lot of lies from axle…
iris
Well-known Member
Yeah, don't do that.
If you cannot, don't give pictures, full stop.
Don't do bullshit GA style.
Others have done the same and not posted pictures.
Sod it, then, right?
Well, not quite.
Anything you can prove, yay.
Sterility and endotoxin tests do not mean pharma grade.
For your own sake, drop saying this.
Do the best you can with what you make, provide testing, make sure you qc is on point and everything else I have written to you earlier.
The more transparent you are, the better.
You need to prove yourself and it will take time.
Pharma?
Pfizer, it is.
Also, there were some other people here, Asteroid something.
Do I recollect them saying they sell your stuff?
What is your affiliation with them?
readalot
Member
Welcome step change on reimbursement. Good job.
It's time for members to demand what they want. A framework has been put forth. I'd recommend removing the pharma grade claim unless you want to prove it with data. Take a look at a pharma COA.
Dutch Labs
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readalot
Member
Well done. Thanks for the additional testing promise and supporting the extension on customer credits for testing.
iris
Well-known Member
MyNameIsJeff
Well-known Member
Were the Boldenone raws in liquid or sticky form? Are there any issues with your EQ crashing (e.g. in transit)? What was the assumed raws purity when you brewed the EQ?
Stronglift
Member
We get a Dutch and a German source basically at the same time. None wants to post the lab and both claim orals are coming soon.
I don’t hate your intro and you’ve done a decent amount of due diligence but I need some more if I am to inject this into my body.
I don’t hate your intro and you’ve done a decent amount of due diligence but I need some more if I am to inject this into my body.
Dutch Labs
Subscriber
Sometimes I wonder, why do some forum members(read: grown men) have such funny looking avatars? I mean the troll face, the retard face, the childish cartoon, the degenerate anime etc.
Is it a representation of how they think of themselves? Is it a representation of their actual spirit? Do people who present themselves in this way genuinely care about the health of random others?
What is good is beautiful and as it stands now you, your avatars and post counts(not unrelated) all look pretty freaking ugly to me. In the sense that I wouldn't let anyone of you near my dog even.
If it doesn't look healthy and it doesn't behaves healthy, should one take health related advice from it?
"Physician, heal thyself."
Should the concern trolling be accepted? Welcomed even? Do they really care? Of course not. They didn't fool me for even a second.
Do they add value? Sometimes by chance. So there is always hope.
Let me propose here a solution for the lab pics. Let's do a physiognomy test on all of you troll avatars first before we continue with the concern posting. Then based on the results of that test I might post lab pics. (most likely not)
New rule in this thread: if you look ugly, have a (concern)troll avatar, or your avatar looks freaky in a degenerate type of way, your opinions and questions are automatically disregarded if they are related to our production process and you will be bullied for the way you present and carry yourself as the grown man that you are.
Same for anyone who averages more than 10 posts a day on a forum without any good reason. "You mean to say you don't have a job?" "aah ok, I'm going to take advice from you now. Tell me more."
I know the real world is cold and scary, and that it hurts sometimes.
Concerns disregarded.
Next we might look into some of the mismatches between the ugly face avatars/high poster 'concerns' and their selective moral posturing based on some posts in other threads.
Is it a representation of how they think of themselves? Is it a representation of their actual spirit? Do people who present themselves in this way genuinely care about the health of random others?
What is good is beautiful and as it stands now you, your avatars and post counts(not unrelated) all look pretty freaking ugly to me. In the sense that I wouldn't let anyone of you near my dog even.
If it doesn't look healthy and it doesn't behaves healthy, should one take health related advice from it?
"Physician, heal thyself."
Should the concern trolling be accepted? Welcomed even? Do they really care? Of course not. They didn't fool me for even a second.
Do they add value? Sometimes by chance. So there is always hope.
Let me propose here a solution for the lab pics. Let's do a physiognomy test on all of you troll avatars first before we continue with the concern posting. Then based on the results of that test I might post lab pics. (most likely not)
New rule in this thread: if you look ugly, have a (concern)troll avatar, or your avatar looks freaky in a degenerate type of way, your opinions and questions are automatically disregarded if they are related to our production process and you will be bullied for the way you present and carry yourself as the grown man that you are.
Same for anyone who averages more than 10 posts a day on a forum without any good reason. "You mean to say you don't have a job?" "aah ok, I'm going to take advice from you now. Tell me more."
I know the real world is cold and scary, and that it hurts sometimes.
Concerns disregarded.
Next we might look into some of the mismatches between the ugly face avatars/high poster 'concerns' and their selective moral posturing based on some posts in other threads.
Dutch Labs
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You can take all that jazz… and shove it up your ass… stop insulting memebers on here… get lost clown … won’t be the first or last source to be buried in the meso graveyard…
Lol i wanted to give this source the benefit of the doubt, but getting THIS triggered over such a basic question as lab pics tells me he's hiding something.
Remember that you are a guest here, and insulting members is not a good idea. You came here to ask for money, so don't act like you don't need the members with "funny" profile pictures. Everyone is a potential customer. Fix your shitty attitude.
Remember that you are a guest here, and insulting members is not a good idea. You came here to ask for money, so don't act like you don't need the members with "funny" profile pictures. Everyone is a potential customer. Fix your shitty attitude.
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