Eat Anything You Want Using Pharma Grade Growth Hormone.

[AnabolicMindset]

This is for everyone in a former thread where I was talking about the GH in the 90's (humatrope) saying that you could eat anything you want and still get shredded using that stuff. Check out this interview with Mike Morris (IFBB Pro) where he talks about GH in the 90's (humatrope) and eating tons of mcdonalds and still being able to get shredded. He also touts that the GH today is nothing like what was in the 90's as was told to me. This is also a very informative interview on the dangers of insulin, pain killers, and a ton of other good stuff. Check it out fellas.

 

[Millard]

This is for everyone in a former thread where I was talking about the GH in the 90's (humatrope) saying that you could eat anything you want and still get shredded using that stuff. Check out this interview with Mike Morris (IFBB Pro) where he talks about GH in the 90's (humatrope) and eating tons of mcdonalds and still being able to get shredded. He also touts that the GH today is nothing like what was in the 90's as was told to me. This is also a very informative interview on the dangers of insulin, pain killers, and a ton of other good stuff. Check it out fellas.

I've always found there to be an inordinate number of competitive bodybuilders eating tons of McDonalds at the major bodybuilding expos. It's that hGH + McDonald's synergy.

 

[arbitrage]

McDonalds stack... Nice!

 

[dper726]

It's a myth, it's certainly a fat burner but far from this miracle working drug for fat burning properties. Don't fall into this mainstream hype or you'll be heavily disappointed if that's the direction you take towards using HGH.

You still have to eat properly and put in just as much hard work to achieve an excellent physique even while on gh.

 

[AnabolicMindset]

It's a myth, it's certainly a fat burner but far from this miracle working drug for fat burning properties. Don't fall into this mainstream hype or you'll be heavily disappointed if that's the direction you take towards using HGH.

You still have to eat properly and put in just as much hard work to achieve an excellent physique even while on gh.

These guys are not talking about the GH that is available now. They are talking about the real deal that was available in the 90's. That stuff is not around anymore. The GH around now is not comparable to that stuff on any level. Just look at how these guys looked at the 1991 Junior Nationals. You hardly see this level of conditioning at pro level shows today. Thats because the stuff they had then was way way way better. Guys were using top notch GH, and using ampules not 10ml vials. The real deal is much different than any of the UGL stuff. Sure they ate right thats a given but like I was told by my guy he told me flat out said that he could eat his regular diet and do 2-4iu of humatrope and add a extra 1500 calories of bullshit like candy bars, mcdonalds, ice cream etc on top of his regular diet and wake up just as shredded and vascular from the humatrope. Guys like Ronnie Coleman and Jay Cutler were using the real deal. Just look at how Jay's head grew. That wasnt from no riptropins or kigtropins. lol That was from the real fucking deal.

 

[dper726]

Ive seen the mike moris video before he isn't talking about some secret lab growth found in the core of the earth. He is talking simply about pharmaceutical growth. Same one that was available during his time is available now just in greater quantities by more outlets. Now while I do agree with you the top notch pros use pharma and not generics, HGH is HGH doesn't matter where you find it wether generic or not. There are just other factors that give you varying results between the two. But I would be an idiot if i told you jay and ronnie used kigtropins of course they didn't. Also growth is known to cause acromegaly over long periods of administration or possibly very high dosages and the only real outlet we have to that research at the moment is bodybuilding considering its unethical for human studies on that subject.

I don't think its healthy to eat junk food but its not entirely impossible to make gains using such to meet your mass goals. Cutting is a whole different story though and I don't have any input on high dosages GH since i have zip knowledge on that and its hard to come across people with experience on 10iu+ ED dosing.

 

[dper726]

Again, does GH work? of course yes. But Im tired of reading bro science talk that it is this miracle drug. I will tell you straight forward anabolics provide the best solution to short term goals. Nothing beats anabolics in this aspect. Long term you look into growth. Which would also require significant funding without interruption. I don't know why people associate growth as this miracle drug in bodybuilding, it really is not. It must be the high price stamp that people assume it must work wonders.

 

[AnabolicMindset]

Dper76 dont you think anabolics have to used long term to reach long term goals as well?

 

[dper726]

It really depends what your goals are. But what I was referring to is look at the results you can make on anabolics say a cycle of deca dbol and test in three months compared to growth every day usage with year of usage. Growth is all about consistency. And I'm a relatively new growth user. But I speak on behalf of the people the I personally know are on it. The moment they become inconsistent with dosing and buy one kit here and there results are very minimal to none.

 

[BR1217]

These guys are not talking about the GH that is available now. They are talking about the real deal that was available in the 90's. That stuff is not around anymore. The GH around now is not comparable to that stuff on any level. Just look at how these guys looked at the 1991 Junior Nationals. You hardly see this level of conditioning at pro level shows today. Thats because the stuff they had then was way way way better. Guys were using top notch GH, and using ampules not 10ml vials. The real deal is much different than any of the UGL stuff. Sure they ate right thats a given but like I was told by my guy he told me flat out said that he could eat his regular diet and do 2-4iu of humatrope and add a extra 1500 calories of bullshit like candy bars, mcdonalds, ice cream etc on top of his regular diet and wake up just as shredded and vascular from the humatrope. Guys like Ronnie Coleman and Jay Cutler were using the real deal. Just look at how Jay's head grew. That wasnt from no riptropins or kigtropins. lol That was from the real fucking deal.

Comparing Pharm grade hgh from the 90's to Pharm grade hgh today is really pointless. I can assure you that the Pharmaceutical companies have not watered down hgh. This is a product used to treat kids and people with wasting diseases. If anything they have had time to perfect the process which would result in better hgh in terms of purity. 3mg of pharm grade hgh is 3mg of pharm grade hgh, there is not a stronger version available. Its kind of like the guys running around saying that dbol and deca from the 70's is better than the stuff we have today,nonsense.

 

[AnabolicMindset]

Comparing Pharm grade hgh from the 90's to Pharm grade hgh today is really pointless. I can assure you that the Pharmaceutical companies have not watered down hgh. This is a product used to treat kids and people with wasting diseases. If anything they have had time to perfect the process which would result in better hgh in terms of purity. 3mg of pharm grade hgh is 3mg of pharm grade hgh, there is not a stronger version available. Its kind of like the guys running around saying that dbol and deca from the 70's is better than the stuff we have today,nonsense.

Well if you have 500 bucks to spend on 30ius of pharma grade growth you sir are a bad motherfucker cause I can 100% assure you anything now that comes in vials is not pharma grade. Back in the 90's they were getting legit pharma grade growth for around 500 a kit. Nowadays its just a bunch of fancy packaged china growth that makes your hands hurt. lol Same thing goes with gear most pharma grade gear comes in amps not 10ml vials. I could almost guarantee you this as well you couldn't find any real Follistatin in the states if your life depended on it. Some stuff is just not around like it was before. Most gear is underdosed at best. That why people now have to use so much more gear than they did years ago to get the same results because its really not the same stuff.

 

[Mike Oxbig]

Well if you have 500 bucks to spend on 30ius of pharma grade growth you sir are a bad motherfucker cause I can 100% assure you anything now that comes in vials is not pharma grade.

Seros are packaged in vials.

lol Same thing goes with gear most pharma grade gear comes in amps not 10ml vials.

10ml Watson Test Cyp vials are the most common form of pharm grade in the states.

 

[Millard]

These guys are not talking about the GH that is available now. They are talking about the real deal that was available in the 90's. That stuff is not around anymore. The GH around now is not comparable to that stuff on any level. Just look at how these guys looked at the 1991 Junior Nationals. You hardly see this level of conditioning at pro level shows today. Thats because the stuff they had then was way way way better. Guys were using top notch GH, and using ampules not 10ml vials. The real deal is much different than any of the UGL stuff. Sure they ate right thats a given but like I was told by my guy he told me flat out said that he could eat his regular diet and do 2-4iu of humatrope and add a extra 1500 calories of bullshit like candy bars, mcdonalds, ice cream etc on top of his regular diet and wake up just as shredded and vascular from the humatrope. Guys like Ronnie Coleman and Jay Cutler were using the real deal. Just look at how Jay's head grew. That wasnt from no riptropins or kigtropins. lol That was from the real fucking deal.

You are contradicting yourself. You say real hGH was only available in the early nineties yet you acknowledge that Jay Cutler was using the "real deal" - that's 10-20 years later.

One thing that hGH has NOT done for competitive bodybuilding is increase the level of conditioning and "leanness" of competitors. The extreme definition has been achievable for decades without hGH. GH hasn't added to this.

GH has been used mainly for mass. hGH and the trend towards mass can arguably be one of the reasons why competitors don't show the same level of conditioning as previous periods. Too much focus on size at the expense of conditioning.

I would venture to guess that most, if not all, of the guys at the 1991 Jr. Nationals were not using GH. Pharmaceutical hGH was no more affordable then than it is now. And neither was amateur bodybuilding any more lucrative then than now.

 

[dper726]

Hey millard or anyone from the era when growth started becoming mainstream in bodybuilding, do you guys remember how much pharmaceutical growth was going for in the black market? Way before internet helped it spike demand.

 

[BR1217]

Well if you have 500 bucks to spend on 30ius of pharma grade growth you sir are a bad motherfucker cause I can 100% assure you anything now that comes in vials is not pharma grade. Back in the 90's they were getting legit pharma grade growth for around 500 a kit. Nowadays its just a bunch of fancy packaged china growth that makes your hands hurt. lol Same thing goes with gear most pharma grade gear comes in amps not 10ml vials. I could almost guarantee you this as well you couldn't find any real Follistatin in the states if your life depended on it. Some stuff is just not around like it was before. Most gear is underdosed at best. That why people now have to use so much more gear than they did years ago to get the same results because its really not the same stuff.

Im very confused regarding the direction of the thread. In your OP you were comparing HGH from the 90's to HGH today, ok. Now in this post you are comparing HGH from the 90's to Chinese generic hgh today, obviously no comparison to be made as Pharm grade is exponentially better than most generics. BTW your price of $500 for 30iu is way off! Serostim can be had for $5-$6 per iu most the time, others are a bit more but certainly not $17/iu as you previously mentioned. I can think of two companies that still offer HGH in vials, Serostim and Omnitrope, there may be others but I am not aware at this point. And to my knowledge all US pharm grade test comes in 5ml or 10ml vials, a couple companies are making 1mg vials for insurance purposes. I personally get Pfizer Depot Test in 10ml vials as prescribed by my TRT doc. Most of what you have wrote is just not true, as for the Follistatin you win. I called around and cant find any, damn. Guess I will have to settle for Serostim or Genotropin, inferior in your opinion I am sure. Either way this is very entertaining, please continue to post brother.

 

[AnabolicMindset]

Sir Real Serostim averages about 18 dollars per iu straight from the pharmacy and of course you can get some real test c from that doc in a vial thats no secret.

https://www.humangrowthhormonesales.com/ghsales2/serostim_hgh_kit.html

 

[AnabolicMindset]

You are contradicting yourself. You say real hGH was only available in the early nineties yet you acknowledge that Jay Cutler was using the "real deal" - that's 10-20 years later.

One thing that hGH has NOT done for competitive bodybuilding is increase the level of conditioning and "leanness" of competitors. The extreme definition has been achievable for decades without hGH. GH hasn't added to this.

GH has been used mainly for mass. hGH and the trend towards mass can arguably be one of the reasons why competitors don't show the same level of conditioning as previous periods. Too much focus on size at the expense of conditioning.

I would venture to guess that most, if not all, of the guys at the 1991 Jr. Nationals were not using GH. Pharmaceutical hGH was no more affordable then than it is now. And neither was amateur bodybuilding any more lucrative then than now.

LMAO Millard I challenge you to find me one guy in the heavyweights or superheavy weights and a junior national show In the last 3 years and speaking of which there is one tomorrow thats more conditioned than anyone in that video. Just to save you the time. You wont.

 

[Millard]

LMAO Millard I challenge you to find me one guy in the heavyweights or superheavy weights and a junior national show In the last 3 years and speaking of which there is one tomorrow thats more conditioned than anyone in that video. Just to save you the time. You wont.

So you are saying that NO ONE has been using REAL hGH in preparation for the 2014 NPC Jr. Nationals. But EVERYONE had access to REAL hGH at the 1991 NPC Jr. Nationals?

And that is why the level of conditioning and leanness may have been better in 91? It's all due to hGH?

Gotcha. My apologies for not following your logic

 

[Millard]

Hey millard or anyone from the era when growth started becoming mainstream in bodybuilding, do you guys remember how much pharmaceutical growth was going for in the black market? Way before internet helped it spike demand.

Sorry. I don't know. My networks were much more limited in pre-Internet times. I never saw hGH in the early 90s amongst the limited circle of competitors, including a national level competitor, with which I trained; the local dealers didn't offer it (and that was the extent of the black market for us); I don't recall the Mexican pharmacies stocking it. And college students were too poor to even consider it anyway.

 

[AnabolicMindset]

lol I hear you Millard. Not trying to pick a fight. Im sure a few guys use it now at the junior level and most of the pros still have access to it I just dont think many guys have the funds for it anymore and its so controlled now.