bama_barbell1014
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I only use whey as post workout due to absorbtion rate. Other than that, whey seems useless to me over real meat protein.
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I only use whey as post workout due to absorbtion rate. Other than that, whey seems useless to me over real meat protein.
I have 6 meals a day, 2 protein shakes and some assorted snacks here and there. All legit, good foods. Getting in around 5k a day, probably a little bit under tbh. I eat vegetables with almost every meal. I get at least 8 ounces of lean meats with every meal with the exception of breakfast. Last meal is around 10pm, first meal is at 5am. I love to eat, truly love food but when you're eating this much clean food it gets daunting.
bama_barbell1014
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I envy you. My appetite suffers from time to time and Im doing good to get in 4 real meals and a few high pro snacks. The veggies every meal is also something I probably need to incorporate. But when you have a weak appetite, veggies take up space that could be carbs and protein.
tengtren
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I was thinking of that when I was typing this, how without pictures these post really mean nothing. But I will post pics, the morning of prejudging for my next show when I'm nice and full and crispy lol
But I decided why not. I do this so that someone who doesn't really know where to start can use these as a guide line
Define results?
It sounds gross but when I don't feel like eating I over steam my veggies. It makes them easier for me to eat. I drink water with every meal, that helps move food down. Breakfast gets black coffee, that's a must.
I treat it like going to the gym. Go to war with the food. You win by crushing your plate like a savage. I get yelled at for eating to aggressively more than I care to admit. My wife hates me lol. I eat in my cubicle because I dint want to deal with the regular office folk and their questions about my nutrition.
Lots of fiber in veggies. Make sure you're getting some Metamucil or something to compensate.
tengtren
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About a week ago I was eating chicken, again, and it was painful. I swear to god the food was backing up in my esophagus dude. I'd chew, swallow the food, drink a little water and wait for some room to open up so I could eat more!
I've had a few days that really tested my ability to eat. Not many, but when I get one of those days it sucks, badly. Funny, my PL nutrition plan was super easy to eat all the time! So many carbs, so much fun food.
@mands & @Wunderpus are pushing me to the limit in a couple different areas and the volume of quality foods is most definitely one of them!!
I see you didn’t comment on Icky’s diet post; 8oz of meat 6 times a day with 2 shakes is nearly identical to my diet as far as protein. I bet his macros are something like 450/450/90ish
And as far as results...noticeably leaner and rounder (prior to beginning my blast). I can’t quantify them because I don’t track scale weight or have a bod pod in the basement.
Are there other ways to do it? Yea. My last offseason was 320/800/75 or so for macros. Nearly the same cals as now, but puffy, more lazy, and I needed dirtier foods to hit those carb numbers.
I primarily use the mirror and it isn’t disappointing. I’ll try to dig up photos on the other diet.
Towards show season the protein may fall a bit and carbs may increase to provide a higher ceiling for pulling carbs through prep. Know when we get there.
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I didn't really have anything to comment on regarding icky's diet... 450gr of protein is on the high side IMO, but icky is also a pretty built dude. I commented on OP's post because he's getting over 100 more grams and is much lighter, IIRC... Even going so far as to wake up through the night to get more. That's why I think it's dumb. I won't post the research on this because I don't think it's specific enough for this conversation.
With all that said, if it's working for you then I hope it keeps working for you! I only asked for you to define results because I was curious if you were trying to grow, cut, etc while introducing the extra protein... Each might have its own merits. I do believe that the thermal effect of super high protein intake may be something to consider. Although, I think high protein intake is also capable of stressing the CNS and may become counterproductive over time.
Come icky... Come back to the dark side!!
All factors to be considered. @tengtren has said he’s 230 and 10% I believe.
I would have never run protein so high if I hadn’t reached out and had someone run my offseason. I would bet most pros (my goal) are doing something similar. It may be extra overkill at my weight. That’s what I always believed.
So far no blood work, daily mood, or general feeling of wellness has shown a negative impact from this diet. If it did/does, I’d probably discontinue it. I get these sort of panels run just like hormone panels.
Recently I’ve sort of learned to understand that all these fancy research articles and studies don’t mean much if the participants aren’t 200+ lean lbs and the goal isn’t being huge. Have to blend the science (which I always lean towards, my career is in STEM and it’s always been a driver for how I go about things) and the anecdotal evidence. For growth, body comp, and performance, all cals aren’t created equal IMO.
tengtren
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@Eman
And for what it's worth that 540p is only 2.34/lb
@Mac11wildcat
One of the guys that taught me (ifbb pro, was in this 2018 Olympia) I remember him telling me when I was 14 years old, I'll never forget it, he'd eat 1,000p a day!!!!! Fucking nuts. He said 100g 10x a day for growth, he is about 5'10 or 11 I think, and 270 on stage 300+ in offseason
I just don't believe 1.5 - 2g/lb is doing shit. (For growth)
And for what it's worth that 540p is only 2.34/lb
@Mac11wildcat
One of the guys that taught me (ifbb pro, was in this 2018 Olympia) I remember him telling me when I was 14 years old, I'll never forget it, he'd eat 1,000p a day!!!!! Fucking nuts. He said 100g 10x a day for growth, he is about 5'10 or 11 I think, and 270 on stage 300+ in offseason
I just don't believe 1.5 - 2g/lb is doing shit. (For growth)
Maybe in time Lol, maybe in time. I hate breaking
and I was doing a lot of that. I'm working with lighter weight and focusing on form of each rep independently, trying to build great habits. If I get my shit together I'd at least like to make a run at bench again.
tengtren
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Your a power lifter right ?Maybe in time Lol, maybe in time. I hate breaking
Tried to be lol. I seem to have a problem keeping soft tissue on the bone.
Ouch....
tengtren
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Yikes, what was it?
Torn adductor, detached bicep and a hip fracture. All different injuries. I'm not durable once the weight gets into the high 400s and low 500s.
