Elite Labs

[Kinetic]

I agree. The backlash over this is a little over the top. The guy said it was a mistake and he immediately corrected it. I mean it's not like we are dealing with a pharmaceutical company here, this is an illegal lab in someone's home so fuck ups should be expected.

I wouldn't go so far as to say they should be expected, but should definitely be rectified if/when a fuck up ever does happen.

 

[jbil75]

I wouldn't go so far as to say they should be expected, but should definitely be rectified if/when a fuck up ever does happen.

What I'm getting at is in any kind of illegal trade shit happens. It's not like they can be reported to the better business bureau and are held to the same standards that legitimate businesses are on the free market. It's a gamble every time you make a purchase.

 

[Savagesteve]

While there was errors with the site (which I seen Millard confirm in another thread) I don't know if it's related specifically to this issue. What I do know is not only should the source not be sending that information through the PM, the members should also not be requesting it through PM and that would alleviate any errors whether by the source or member. By the way not defending anyone and we need to police up our own security risks as well as ensuring the source does their part.

 

[Elite_Labs]

So you believe the forum @Millard Baker provides us here is at fault and what caused you to post a members private information in a public section?
If this turns out to be what happened, it would be a major concern for many MESO-rx members.
Hopefully @Millard Baker will publicly address your belief.

By no means am I blaming anyone, as I stated many times sir I haven't the slightest idea what happened.

 

[Marcus]

There was some glitch in the Meso machine earlier today with SSL errors and avatars not loading.

When i first tried to start a thread about the SSL errors, the text field that i'm typing in now, wasn't even there.

Not saying this is related or what happened to Elite, but who honestly knows?

I was having trouble with my posts as well, couldn't respond in threads, then in PM I could click "reply" and quote the message but couldn't type and then when I tried to cancel it, it posted my PM anyway. For the first half of the day for me.

Regardless, you have to ask yourself (and this is going to be different for everyone, personal choice for each of us), is this forgivable? For me, absolutely not. If my tracking was posted, even for a brief moment, I would flip the fuck out. Immediately have to close PO Box, but even then, my name is associated with it.

In a sense, he laid a federal case out on the internet. I understand he's sorry, but sometimes that just doesn't cut it, and this is one of those cases for me

 

[MisterSuperGod]

No address? what the fuck? Type in the tracking number and there is an address.
Dumbass!!!

For the record, that is incorrect.
The tracking number will give the city, state and zip code of where the package is delivered, but not the actual street address.

 

[Beano223]

For the record, that is incorrect.
The tracking number will give the city, state and zip code of where the package is delivered, but not the actual street address.

Maybe we couldn't see the address but if the dea seen that tracking number I'm pretty sure they could use it to get the address from usps

 

[MisterSuperGod]

I was having trouble with my posts as well, couldn't respond in threads, then in PM I could click "reply" and quote the message but couldn't type and then when I tried to cancel it, it posted my PM anyway. For the first half of the day for me.

Regardless, you have to ask yourself (and this is going to be different for everyone, personal choice for each of us), is this forgivable? For me, absolutely not. If my tracking was posted, even for a brief moment, I would flip the fuck out. Immediately have to close PO Box, but even then, my name is associated with it.

In a sense, he laid a federal case out on the internet. I understand he's sorry, but sometimes that just doesn't cut it, and this is one of those cases for me

You definitely make a good argument here.
The ramifications of such a mistake are very real and very costly, i hadn't contemplated it that deeply before now.

i had considered trying his gear in the future, now however, i'm not so sure... Food for thought.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Maybe we couldn't see the address but if the dea seen that tracking number I'm pretty sure they could use it to get the address from usps

Oh, absolutely.
i just wanted to address the erroneous information in that particular post.

 

[legendary]

I honestly think elite is the first source I've seen where some members actually defend his mistakes. I'm not saying it's a good or bad thing just pointing out that I've never seen this before on meso

 

[legendary]

I agree. The backlash over this is a little over the top. The guy said it was a mistake and he immediately corrected it. I mean it's not like we are dealing with a pharmaceutical company here, this is an illegal lab in someone's home so fuck ups should be expected.

Would it be over the top if LE saw it?

 

[jbil75]

Would it be over the top if LE saw it?

I'm just saying what is done is done and there is a risk that we choose to take for partaking in illegal activities. The only thing people can do is to never buy from a UGL again if they want no risk involved whatsoever.

 

[retpsd]

By no means am I blaming anyone, as I stated many times sir I haven't the slightest idea what happened.

I never said you did cast 100% "blame", but you did say you "believe" it wasn't your fault, and that the site was glitchy....
I don't believe it was a MESO forum glitch, and I did see the tracking number, I also saw the post you deleted right after it, where you thanked the member for pointing out "your mistake"....remember that post??

 

[MisterSuperGod]

I also saw the post you deleted right after it, where you thanked the member for pointing out "your mistake"....remember that post??

Oh, that's what you were referring to in a previous post?!

See, i didn't even see that one. Must have been extremely short lived.

 

[retpsd]

I'm just saying what is done is done and there is a risk that we choose to take for partaking in illegal activities. The only thing people can do is to never buy from a UGL again if they want no risk involved whatsoever.

Look, I paid no attention to your first post regarding "if you don't wanna take risk, don't buy" because the existence of the underground forum and it's base premise is to share experiences, knowledge and to learn about the black market.

What do you not understand about risk assessment?
It's not about eliminating risk to zero, it's about assessing the risk and setting personal tolerances.
Example:
1 Would you buy gear from a UGL that had public issues regarding contamination?
You'd probably assess the risk and may decide to keep looking.
2 Would you buy gear from a UGL that had public issues regarding the privacy of your transaction?
You'd probably assess the risk and may decide to keep looking.

End the end, you may decide the black market isn't a risk you're willing to partake in.

 

[legendary]

I'm just saying what is done is done and there is a risk that we choose to take for partaking in illegal activities. The only thing people can do is to never buy from a UGL again if they want no risk involved whatsoever.

So your saying it's fine because it's a ugl. Why is everyone so pussy about letting these ugl get away with shit.

 

[legendary]

If my tracking was online for 10 seconds I would clean house.

 

[retpsd]

Oh, that's what you were referring to in a previous post?!

See, i didn't even see that one. Must have been extremely short lived.

The tracking info stayed public longer than Elite's "thank you for pointing out my mistake" post did.

 

[Omegaflare]

Is it not possible LE knows who we are regardless? This site is not really a secret lol to be honest it's crazy they seriously must be turning a blind eye.

 

[Marcus]

Is it not possible LE knows who we are regardless? This site is not really a secret lol to be honest it's crazy they seriously must be turning a blind eye.

I'm running Tor through a VPN. Literally the only way they could find out who I am is through the sources I choose to order from