My pops was 5'10" at 180lbs.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Endurance cycle for BUD/s
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Fattyone
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@AlwaysHungry how did this turn out for you?
AlwaysHungry
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Congrats. My friends in the US military tell me that's a very very tough program...how does the Greek version compare?
AlwaysHungry
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I've researched in deep.
Greece has the same programs as Americans cause us and Greece have very close bonds especially in the military.
Greek BUD/S are the same as 90's early 00's US buds.
Americans changed the programm and make it better and "easier" in a sense. So we have oldschool American buds in here.
I completed it it was tough , especially the no sleep no food aspect I lost a bunch of bodyweight around 15kg.
Our food was very minimal the sleep also very minimal exercises and athletics was very demanding. All day in a wet suit was also very hard on our bones.
A lot of friends who I met there , they have problems with their bones.
I have problems also severe rotator cuff and multiple tendinitis in my shoulders biceps. My knees are also not in the best shape.
Keep in mind that I came off cold turkey from steroids and I completed it shut down. I was running aas constantly for years and I get off and completed the buds. Was a dream for me and I also wanted to get through it without anabolic assistance.
Because I think it's all in the mind and in the soul.
Thank you very much. Now I'm not in the army I have a chance to get in again without the need to complete the buds again.
But special forces and bodybuilding doesn't go together at all.
And I love bodybuilding much more.
That sure was quite a humbling experience brother. So you plan to regroup and recover now that you are out of the military?
AlwaysHungry
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I'm working with an orthopedic and a physical therapist to get my joints fixed and my tendinitis.And slowly gaining my mass back.
Aestheticstqwe98
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Malaka. So you still would've been able to pin once a week? I would've done test decanoate/nandro decanoate 200/200 with 20mg cardarine oral ED. Someone on meso was talking about this being a decent endurance stack.
He might not have had access to those then.
Switcher
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I keep writing a post and walking away without pushing the button. Should I stay out of it or should I say something. The last time I did AAS for the purposes of building my body was over 30+ years ago. Roughly 7 or 8 years ago I went on replacement therapy which led me to this forum. I have stuck around because of the frankness. It's fun and makes me think. So, thank you for that.
I will open up just a touch and to give a counter perspective here. My goal is to give a US kid a thought before they do something and ruin a life's dream. You only get 1 shot at this life.
A few lifetimes ago, I went into the US Navy. I held a commission and have plenty of sea stories about a lot of stuff including training with and operating around the elite of the elite.
Body building and spec ops training are very different types of training. They require and result in VERY different types of bodies. Assuredly, there will always be outliers. The rule though, is for a spec op type to look more like a triathlete than a bodybuilder.
AAS would, assuredly, benefit a person in military training. Without getting way too technical, training is designed to wear you down. Anything that helps recovery is good. But there are things to consider.
2 things:
1. Who you are in your training, what you use to get through it is who you are when the chips are down. I would not want to have a guy dependent on AAS in the foxhole next to me. Eventually, people will not be coming back. It is just that simple. I know it will be a controversial point of view but its true.
2. You will get drug tested during training. Probably, you will get tested more than once and coming off liberty is the BEST time to test people. If there is any reason to suspect a candidate is using AAS, your sample will get redirected. You will get tested, roughly, by the same group testing all the athletes. If you pop, its over. The dream is gone.
So, choose wisely. Know that if you lean on AAS to get through training and are ever found out, you have just risked everything and forever, there will be no second chances at this lifestyle.
Also remember this...The training ends. The torture ends. The training, though, is what you and those around you need to go through to know what YOU can endure.
I will open up just a touch and to give a counter perspective here. My goal is to give a US kid a thought before they do something and ruin a life's dream. You only get 1 shot at this life.
A few lifetimes ago, I went into the US Navy. I held a commission and have plenty of sea stories about a lot of stuff including training with and operating around the elite of the elite.
Body building and spec ops training are very different types of training. They require and result in VERY different types of bodies. Assuredly, there will always be outliers. The rule though, is for a spec op type to look more like a triathlete than a bodybuilder.
AAS would, assuredly, benefit a person in military training. Without getting way too technical, training is designed to wear you down. Anything that helps recovery is good. But there are things to consider.
2 things:
1. Who you are in your training, what you use to get through it is who you are when the chips are down. I would not want to have a guy dependent on AAS in the foxhole next to me. Eventually, people will not be coming back. It is just that simple. I know it will be a controversial point of view but its true.
2. You will get drug tested during training. Probably, you will get tested more than once and coming off liberty is the BEST time to test people. If there is any reason to suspect a candidate is using AAS, your sample will get redirected. You will get tested, roughly, by the same group testing all the athletes. If you pop, its over. The dream is gone.
So, choose wisely. Know that if you lean on AAS to get through training and are ever found out, you have just risked everything and forever, there will be no second chances at this lifestyle.
Also remember this...The training ends. The torture ends. The training, though, is what you and those around you need to go through to know what YOU can endure.
steckdose0
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i was in the army (not the US army) and was on a cycle before and during part of my 8 month training, and it was the biggest pain in the ass you could imagine. my levels were all over the place because sometimes we weren't returning to our bunks every night. sometimes we'd sleep in tents in the desert for days on end, constantly moving. i eventually came off 3 or 4 weeks after starting basic, before we started doing the real shit. you can't safely keep [sterile] vials and needles when you're doing that. where are you gonna pin in a situation like that? if a vial breaks, you're fucked. if you lose pins, you're fucked. if your gear accidentally gets exposed and one of your superiors see, you're fucked. you lose your AI, you're fucked. when you take steroids you need to be in full control of your life and freedoms and when you're in the army training, you have no control over your life and you have no freedoms.
most importantly, if you successfully make it through bud/s on a cycle and become a SEAL and then you come off, you are not that same soldier you were on cycle. you were judged based on your enhanced performance. when you get deployed and when it really matters, that speed, stamina, coordination, reflexes, etc. you had on cycle in BUDS will be gone. so in a way you are playing yourself and putting you and your team at risk by not having that same advantage.
most importantly, if you successfully make it through bud/s on a cycle and become a SEAL and then you come off, you are not that same soldier you were on cycle. you were judged based on your enhanced performance. when you get deployed and when it really matters, that speed, stamina, coordination, reflexes, etc. you had on cycle in BUDS will be gone. so in a way you are playing yourself and putting you and your team at risk by not having that same advantage.
Jbone90
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Good read brother
Steroids in the U.S. Military – The Special Forces
Fantasies about super-warriors are as old as the civilizations that first went to war against each other. Modern versions of these military “actionthinksteroids.com
Can you imagine the guilty conscience you'd have if your brother in arms died because you weren't fit enough to perform the same feats you did in training? Or some hostage situation you were trying to save people from? You would know you cheated. You would know that if it were someone else in your place, they probably would've been able to save them. But not you. Because you lied to everyone about your abilities and now their deaths are on your hands...
Cherokee
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Everyone watches Rambo movies. fact is , special forces is way different than you think. A lot of it involves very boring activity, walking for miles or other mundane stuff.
steckdose0
Member
exactly. i've heard some US military higher ups look the other way when it comes to their guys using PEDs but i'll be one to tell you that this is one of if not the only area where i would consider it a bad thing. same with cops using gear too (a bit less because they're half civilian). it just invites a bunch of shit that could go wrong. i hope OP didn't go through with it. taking steroids through training is like cheating your way through medical school. yeah you passed but now what
Cherokee
Banned
Med students use drugs to stay awake, study more, Adderall,etc.
And people cheat.
As for a cop...What could go wrong if a Cop used Steroids? With the exception they lied to gain employment by stating they did not use illegal drugs. Assuming they ask that.
I highly doubt he was ralking about Adderall. I think he meant LITERALLY cheating on your exams, etc., so you dont actually learn the material..then you are let out into the real world and people die because you don't know shit about being a doctor!
Adderall just helps med students stay awake and alert through the grueling days of med school. By the way, the insane hours of med school were actually created by Dr William Halsted, who became a cocaine addict and was using it every day. He forced his students to keep up with him, obviously hey had no idea he was on cocaine...
So REALLY, practically the only way to make it through medical school is by using stimulants. That is what the curriculum was formed upon... and that's the way you make it through. Regardless, you still don't forget everything you learned in med school when you stop taking adderall a day suddenly you don't know shit. The air force and navy give their pilots modafinil (used to be Adderall I think) for long flights or night flights to stay alert.
Dr William Halsted's influence on med school residency training: Necessity is the mother of invention: William Stewart Halsted’s addiction and its influence on the development of residency training in North America
Either way. Cop or med student...not even remotely comparable to spec ops. They sleep in their own bed each night. They aren't doing missions behind enemy lines where they could get caught and tortured for years. You can't have fucked up E2 on a mission. You might be wading through dirty muck and shit and garbage and not have a chance to even a clean injection site. You need to have a level head and an ability to remain objective and calm and remove your ego entirely from the situation. A lot of guys already struggle with that and AAS only seems to make it worse for them, unfortunately.
Besides... OP was gonna take fucking nandrolone? His test would be in the toilet for MONTHS after stopping (up to 18 months) good luck making it through BUDS with tanked test. He would be fucked!
Cherokee
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steckdose0
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you can't compare a student taking adderall to pass an exam to a person taking steroids to become a navy SEAL. adderall doesn't make you smarter which is why no one would even notice you're on it. if you take steroids and perform in front of people every day, when you stop taking whatever it is you're taking people are going to notice a bit of a slowdown in your performance.
AlwaysHungry
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Well I'll tell you what we are all taking since I passed and I'm in for life now.
Me personally I didn't use anything during buds cause I was scared they find and kick me out.
Man I was so fucking wrong all the closets are full of vials syringes and pills that's the truth.
Now after buds 95% are on some form of PED. New guys asking us for modafinil all the time to cope up with the sleeplessness.
A regular SEAL is on test deca GH and modafinil when it's need it.
That's the mainstream I've seen seals using trenbolone respectable dosages and still run and have their stamina.
It's not cheating by any means if you ask me the dosages are all using are trt type dosages only to increase recovery, aggressiveness etc.
1ml testo
1ml deca
2-5iu GH.
Seals live their modafinil so much. There are guys in who doesn't use anything but thats the minority and respect for them.
But it's not cheating cause you need your nandro you need your GH. You left on Friday with 2 broke bones and with shit on your pants.
It's your responsibility to take the best care on yourself to get back on Monday. Otherwise ring the bell.
Me personally I didn't use anything during buds cause I was scared they find and kick me out.
Man I was so fucking wrong all the closets are full of vials syringes and pills that's the truth.
Now after buds 95% are on some form of PED. New guys asking us for modafinil all the time to cope up with the sleeplessness.
A regular SEAL is on test deca GH and modafinil when it's need it.
That's the mainstream I've seen seals using trenbolone respectable dosages and still run and have their stamina.
It's not cheating by any means if you ask me the dosages are all using are trt type dosages only to increase recovery, aggressiveness etc.
1ml testo
1ml deca
2-5iu GH.
Seals live their modafinil so much. There are guys in who doesn't use anything but thats the minority and respect for them.
But it's not cheating cause you need your nandro you need your GH. You left on Friday with 2 broke bones and with shit on your pants.
It's your responsibility to take the best care on yourself to get back on Monday. Otherwise ring the bell.
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