epo order. Got burned.

[RodgerThat]

I am no expert, what I can tell you is prior to running it I researched it hardcore (like I do for any drug I plan to put in my body) and I was well aware that this was one of the "potential" side effects. I will say this, in 2015, I ran a good amount over 2000 miles with about 800 of those miles going up and down mountains and I lifted at least twice a week most of the year. I am over 45, so I am sure those miles and lifting played a major part with my joint pain and eventual injuries that shut me down from all training until this past week.

I don't remember what this thread started about but now I'm curious as to what shoes you wear running that many miles a year? I trained for my ironman wearing my new balance N2 for all my long distances but I was wearing out shoes every 2 months

 

[Bob Dole]

I was sponsored an wore specific shoe, I am sure you can understand why I don't want to mention the brand and model. I can tell you there are a lot of great sneakers that will do you better than NB's.

 

[RodgerThat]

I was sponsored an wore specific shoe, I am sure you can understand why I don't want to mention the brand and model. I can tell you there are a lot of great sneakers that will do you better than NB's.

Ya I know there was but my running orthotics were made for that specific shoe so I fucked myself that way and had to keep getting that shoe. Don't need the orthotics to run anymore though and want to get back into it so looking for a different style

 

[Dr JIM]

Is it possible it has a different effect on each individual? I've been running eq for 8 weeks. I'm a powerlifter and my joints have always been my downfall especially since bench is one of my stronger lifts. I've had no experience of any discomfort in any joints.

That's not at all an individual response as many folk experience a relief of "joint sxs" when cycling AAS esp those that aromatize.

This beneficial effect is likely due to water retention that extends into the joint capsule, based on direct visualization on arthroscopy.

In addition, if a bonafied healing effect was the result such sxs would NOT recurr once that particular AAS was discontinued, but that is not the case at all, bc for many the arthralgias do return and are often WORSE, IME.

NO AAS can heal hyaline cartilage bc what remains after puberty is a cellular matrix devoid of a nuclei.

The latter is REQUIRED for hyaline cartilage production.

However fibroblasts can "invade" small hyaline cartilage defects and form a "protective laver" which is better than bone rubbing bone.

To that end what "is different" in each individual is the degree of joint damage, it's location, depth and of course the type of exercise they partake in.

These are just some of the reasons anecdotes of joint cures from AAS far outnumber that which is evidence based.

The devil is in the details gents and almost always is!

JIM

 

[ruckin]

That's not at all an individual response as many folk experience a relief of "joint sxs" when cycling AAS esp those that aromatize.

This beneficial effect is likely due to water retention that extends into the joint capsule, based on direct visualization on arthroscopy.

In addition, if a bonafied healing effect was the result such sxs would NOT recurr once that particular AAS was discontinued, but that is not the case at all, bc for many the arthralgias do return and are often WORSE, IME.

NO AAS can heal hyaline cartilage bc what remains after puberty is a cellular matrix devoid of a nuclei.

The latter is REQUIRED for hyaline cartilage production.

However fibroblasts can "invade" small hyaline cartilage defects and form a "protective laver" which is better than bone rubbing bone.

To that end what "is different" in each individual is the degree of joint damage, it's location, depth and of course the type of exercise they partake in.

These are just some of the reasons anecdotes of joint cures from AAS far outnumber that which is evidence based.

The devil is in the details gents and almost always is!

JIM

So is hgh the only ped that can help heal joints?

 

[Dr JIM]

So is hgh the only ped that can help heal joints?

And even that is difficult to prove in the absence of well controlled conditions.

Ever tried to fix a vehicle wo putting in in the "repair shop"?

With BB constantly stressing their joints with heavy loads it's a wonder anything can "heal".

 

[Dr JIM]

Im not sure. They seem to be some sort of beauty shop that sells gear.

LMAO
What can I say some were born suckers
and few "36 year olds" are this foolish!

 

[Dr__Jan_Itor]

I think pharmacist had some epo. And a better source than him you won't find.

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[Dr JIM]

Much like GH if your going to use recombinant products Pharm grade is the best route by far.

You get what you pay for but heck TT can raise ones Crit and it's MUCH less expensive

 

[Wunderpus]

Much like GH if your going to use recombinant products Pharm grade is the best route by far.

You get what you pay for but heck TT can raise ones Crit and it's MUCH less expensive

EQ even better choice IMO

 

[master.on]

Beauty shop?? Everyone knows legit gear can only be found at massage parlors.

LOL
You got my Googleing to see if EPO is now used as botox or something.
So please explain why a beauty shop? WTF?
Get your iron checked you may need IV iron as well to properly increase hematocrit.

 

[Dr JIM]

Parenteral iron, intravenous at that, good God where do come up with such garbage.

Like are you aware the initial administration of Imferon (AKA Iron dextran) requires a test IV dose and cardiac monitoring bc of the risk of anaphylaxis? HELL NO!

That's why Iron is RARELY administered parenterally and only under specific circumstances, fool!

Your a "Master" of potentially dangerous "opinions" and I can only hope NONE take your's seriously!

Get your iron checked you may need IV iron as well to properly increase hematocrit.

 

[master.on]

Parenteral iron, intravenous at that, good God where do come up with such garbage.

Like are you aware the initial administration of Imferon (AKA Iron dextran) requires a test IV dose and cardiac monitoring bc of the risk of anaphylaxis? HELL NO!

That's why Iron is RARELY administered parenterally and only under specific circumstances, fool!

Your a "Master" of potentially dangerous "opinions" and I can only hope NONE take your's seriously!

You're the master of sloppy reading and assssumptions
Are you actually a college dropout because you couldn't pay attention to what you read?

I said GET YOUR IRON CHECKED (of course this means blood tests)
I didn't say take or inject iron right away
And yes low iron MIGHT cause anemia
Iron deficiency anemia
Iron deficiency anemia: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia

 

[tenpoundsleft]

Wanna increase hemocrit quickly then learn how to do a self phlebotomy and then proper blood doping techniques. That's the fastest way. But EQ works too so to each their own.

Weird, almost no posts on the site about phlebotomies.

It's getting to be such a f-ing pain to deal with getting my phlebotomy prescription taken care of that I'm thinking of a DIY approach - any thoughts on suitable products for this?

No, I can't go through the Red Cross - I travel to what they think of as "risky" countries. So fuck'em - I'll throw my A- in the trash.