Eq-only cruise experiment

[ruckin]

So today I'm starting an eq-only cruise for the next 12-16 weeks. Dose will be 200 mg/wk (I'll be pinning 400 mg every other week). I don't have any problems with test, I'm just interested to see what happens and how it feels. Starting lifts as of tonight are:

Paused ass-to-grass squat 365x7
Push press 225x8
Deadlift 425x8
Paused close grip incline 205x8

I'm hoping to gain a tiny amount of strength over the next couple months, but if I just maintain everything I'd be okay with that too. Just coming off of a cut using 400 mg/wk of tren E.

We'll see!

 

[Evom1]

Well first question, are you an equine? If so this sounds perfect

 

[Morefyah]

So today I'm starting an eq-only cruise for the next 12-16 weeks. Dose will be 200 mg/wk (I'll be pinning 400 mg every other week). I don't have any problems with test, I'm just interested to see what happens and how it feels. Starting lifts as of tonight are:

Paused ass-to-grass squat 365x7
Push press 225x8
Deadlift 425x8
Paused close grip incline 205x8

I'm hoping to gain a tiny amount of strength over the next couple months, but if I just maintain everything I'd be okay with that too. Just coming off of a cut using 400 mg/wk of tren E.

We'll see!

I did something similar but at a slightly higher dose and I was blasting it all spring as well.
Been on EQ for 30 weeks. Opinions?la
I really enjoyed it and was completely side free. I had great endurance and muscle seperation, though my body was saturated in EQ for a long time.

 

[ruckin]

Well first question, are you an equine? If so this sounds perfect

Idk what that means. Lol

I did something similar but at a slightly higher dose and I was blasting it all spring as well.
Been on EQ for 30 weeks. Opinions?la
I really enjoyed it and was completely side free. I had great endurance and muscle seperation, though my body was saturated in EQ for a long time.

Interesting. I'll start reading through that. Would you do it again?

 

[Evom1]

Idk what that means. Lol

Eq = horse steroid
Equine = horse

Joking saying eq would be like hrt for a horse

 

[Morefyah]

Idk what that means. Lol


Interesting. I'll start reading through that. Would you do it again?

I probably would if I were in the same situation. I'm not sure I would use EQ in yours though. The dose is just not high enough and IMO 10-12 weeks is not long enough.
I think 250mg of NPP would be perfect in your situation. You could even bridge it into deca @ 250 mg. It's only a therapeutic dose

 

[ruckin]

Eq = horse steroid
Equine = horse

Joking saying eq would be like hrt for a horse

Being a horse sounds cool. They're way stronger and faster than me lol

I probably would if I were in the same situation. I'm not sure I would use EQ in yours though. The dose is just not high enough and IMO 10-12 weeks is not long enough.
I think 250mg of NPP would be perfect in your situation. You could even bridge it into deca @ 250 mg. It's only a therapeutic dose

I've yet to try deca but I would love to some day. The excessive natural supression kinda scares me since I want to have kids one day. But then again if I was so concerned about that I wouldn't blast n cruise... idk lol

 

[Perrin Aybara]

I'm in for moral support even though I don't plan on ever running EQ.

 

[GBridge515]

Could eq be run as a base for a cycle instead of test at something like 800mg/wk? And how bad does eq convert to e2?

 

[JC456]

Interesting experiment. In for this, good luck to you.

 

[ruckin]

Could eq be run as a base for a cycle instead of test at something like 800mg/wk? And how bad does eq convert to e2?

It's supposed to convert at about half the rate that test does, but I've never heard of - or experienced myself - any e2-related sides from eq use.

Interesting experiment. In for this, good luck to you.

Thanks man, I appreciate that.

 

[ruckin]

Just finished my Friday workout and got 275x3 on my power clean. Which I'm pretty happy with since I haven't done heavy cleans in 2 weeks and I didn't eat anything til almost 6pm today, about 45 minutes before lifting.

It's been about 3 weeks since my last test dose now and I'm feeling pretty good so far.

 

[ruckin]

For my Monday workout this week I hit all my goal numbers, which were just the same as last week but with better speed.

As for today, I just finished my usual Thursday 3 mile jog, and I felt extremely sluggish. I did notice that I started to feel a little better towards the end though, which is interesting. I spent most of the day driving until right before the run though, so maybe that caused it.

Also, I noticed I've been getting this minor but very annoying cramp in my right oblique area during my runs lately. Maybe I'm just not drinking enough water. I weighed myself right after the run, fully dressed, and was only 232 too. I was shocked.

I'm thinking maybe the absence of test & estrogen is starting to cause me to drop water weight. Hard to say of it's that or actual tissue weight I'm losing.

 

[Kakarot]

For my Monday workout this week I hit all my goal numbers, which were just the same as last week but with better speed.

As for today, I just finished my usual Thursday 3 mile jog, and I felt extremely sluggish. I did notice that I started to feel a little better towards the end though, which is interesting. I spent most of the day driving until right before the run though, so maybe that caused it.

Also, I noticed I've been getting this minor but very annoying cramp in my right oblique area during my runs lately. Maybe I'm just not drinking enough water. I weighed myself right after the run, fully dressed, and was only 232 too. I was shocked.

I'm thinking maybe the absence of test & estrogen is starting to cause me to drop water weight. Hard to say of it's that or actual tissue weight I'm losing.

Wonder if rbc might be high? BP ok?

 

[master.on]

So today I'm starting an eq-only cruise for the next 12-16 weeks. Dose will be 200 mg/wk (I'll be pinning 400 mg every other week). I don't have any problems with test, I'm just interested to see what happens and how it feels. Starting lifts as of tonight are:

Paused ass-to-grass squat 365x7
Push press 225x8
Deadlift 425x8
Paused close grip incline 205x8

I'm hoping to gain a tiny amount of strength over the next couple months, but if I just maintain everything I'd be okay with that too. Just coming off of a cut using 400 mg/wk of tren E.

We'll see!

1 I don't recommend to cruise, not even TRT
try HCG + low dose AI instead of TRT

2 if you insist in cruising
add some HCG + low dose AI (something like 500 IU/week + 1/2 to 1 Letro tab A WEEK)

3 the fun/odd thing is that I've actually tried
in fact there's a Meso article that I can't seem to find now where Bill Roberts said he'll try EQ instead of low dose TRT
Bill Roberts said he'd use boldenone 200-300 mg/wk as HRT?
Mast as TRT add-on Bill Roberts article
Masteron as an Addition to Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT)


Maybe it's here
The Use of a Single Anabolic Steroid for “Enhanced” Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT)
but doesn't seem to load anymore.

 

[JC456]

For my Monday workout this week I hit all my goal numbers, which were just the same as last week but with better speed.

As for today, I just finished my usual Thursday 3 mile jog, and I felt extremely sluggish. I did notice that I started to feel a little better towards the end though, which is interesting. I spent most of the day driving until right before the run though, so maybe that caused it.

Also, I noticed I've been getting this minor but very annoying cramp in my right oblique area during my runs lately. Maybe I'm just not drinking enough water. I weighed myself right after the run, fully dressed, and was only 232 too. I was shocked.

I'm thinking maybe the absence of test & estrogen is starting to cause me to drop water weight. Hard to say of it's that or actual tissue weight I'm losing.

It's fairly difficult to lose actual muscle tissue, assuming training and protein is in check. This stands true even as natty, with hormones present it's pretty much a non-issue.

Muscle glycogen, water etc loss is very real though.

 

[ruckin]

Wonder if rbc might be high? BP ok?

I've only been on the eq for less than 2 weeks so I doubt it's that. I could be wrong though, wouldn't be the first time lol

It's fairly difficult to lose actual muscle tissue, assuming training and protein is in check. This stands true even as natty, with hormones present it's pretty much a non-issue.

Muscle glycogen, water etc loss is very real though.

Yeah I hope it's just glycogen/water. I ate extra tonight and think that'll help. I'd like to just maintain about 235 lbs throughout this cruise.

 

[Kakarot]

I've only been on the eq for less than 2 weeks so I doubt it's that. I could be wrong though, wouldn't be the first time lol


Yeah I hope it's just glycogen/water. I ate extra tonight and think that'll help. I'd like to just maintain about 235 lbs throughout this cruise.

How's all the little things? Like temperament, stress level, umm other things.

 

[ruckin]

How's all the little things? Like temperament, stress level, umm other things.

I noticed I was in a relatively bad mood today, and for no good reason really, which is very unusual for me. I do have some minor personal stuff going on but nothing too serious, so it could have just been that.

Also I should mention that it seems my libido is down the last week or so. Makes sense due to the lack of androgens but still interesting to note.

 

[ruckin]

Had a mediocre at best workout today, I just had no focus. I started noticing that the last few days I've had very little passion and drive, just in general. I'm sure it's because of no test. If I have shitty workouts next week and still feel apathetic like this, I think I'll call it a day and go back on trt-dose test and declare this experiment case closed.