EQ + Winny Questions

[bigginz]

Hi,

I did a first cycle ( 8 weeks) with the tried and tested decca + winny.
50 winny every other day + 250 cc decca weekly. I did notice some hardness and got a little bigger. When I finished the cycle I didn't do anything but ZMA and working out hard.

I plan to start my second ( and final) cycle with EQ + winny. My questions is do I need to do a post cycle with this combo. And also what dosses should I take. I was thinking 50 cc winny everyother day for 8 weeks and 400 cc (200 twice a week) of eq for 12 weeks. Start two weeks before winny and end two weeks after winny.

I hear that eq does NOT stop the bodys natural test so I would not need to do any post cycle. I will not take any test so please don't reccomoend it. I'm not trying to compete or anything, I'm just trying to go from a flabby body with love handles to something respectable at the beach. I'm about half way there already.

 

[Captain Planet]

You need to do some research, I don't even know where to start. I think you need to know more about these substances before you put them in your body.

 

[JonTest]

for sure.......I will always have test as a base....I mean FUCK who wouldn't want more test....even if it is a small amount......PUT SOME FUCKIN TEST IN THERE.

 

[bigginz]

I really don't want to mess with test (maybe I would consider addeding some decca to the mix , maybe 100 cc / week), I would just like some questions answered. And yes I'm doing research, I will be taking these replies and comparing them to other boards I'm a member of. I also talk to allot of people in the gyms. Everyone thinks they know it all thats why I'm asking allot of different people. Please share your thoughts and back them up with explanations. this is how I'm doing research, so please don't say do more research.


I'm not trying to be a gear user, I just planned on doing 2 cycles to help break through the initial walls. I already finished one and plan to start my second and final one. I already noticed a nice change after the decca + winny, and I want to finish with EQ + winny, then work out hard for the rest of my life drug free. Again I'm not trying to win any contests - I just want a nice hard body.

 

[Adogg4]

I really don't want to mess with test (maybe I would consider addeding some decca to the mix , maybe 100 cc / week), I would just like some questions answered. And yes I'm doing research, I will be taking these replies and comparing them to other boards I'm a member of. I also talk to allot of people in the gyms. Everyone thinks they know it all thats why I'm asking allot of different people. Please share your thoughts and back them up with explanations. this is how I'm doing research, so please don't say do more research.


I'm not trying to be a gear user, I just planned on doing 2 cycles to help break through the initial walls. I already finished one and plan to start my second and final one. I already noticed a nice change after the decca + winny, and I want to finish with EQ + winny, then work out hard for the rest of my life drug free. Again I'm not trying to win any contests - I just want a nice hard body.

Bro if you have your heart set on doing it this way, you should run the winny a good 2 weeks past the EQ, because EQ will stay in your body for 2 weeks(perhaps 3, check to be sure). And any outside source of steroids will tend to shut you down, so you would want to do PCT after such a combo. I would recommend u run:

weeks 1-10: 500-600mg/week EQ
weeks 8-12: 50mg/ED winstrol
weeks 13-16: (start the day after your last winny dose), clomid at 200mg/ED for the first week, and 100mg/ED for the last 3.

taking ZMA after you come off will help you also.

 

[bonds315]

How does ZMA help with pct?

 

[Massive690]

i would definately take some clomid post cycle

 

[Adogg4]

How does ZMA help with pct?

it is a mineral combo that helps with the natural production of test

 

[bigginz]

Thanks for the info. Why the winny for only 4 weeks ED opposed to 8 weeks EOD ?

And 2 months of EQ by itself ?

again thanks for your explanations.

What are your thoughts on nolva , instead of clomid ?







Bro if you have your heart set on doing it this way, you should run the winny a good 2 weeks past the EQ, because EQ will stay in your body for 2 weeks(perhaps 3, check to be sure). And any outside source of steroids will tend to shut you down, so you would want to do PCT after such a combo. I would recommend u run:

weeks 1-10: 500-600mg/week EQ
weeks 8-12: 50mg/ED winstrol
weeks 13-16: (start the day after your last winny dose), clomid at 200mg/ED for the first week, and 100mg/ED for the last 3.

taking ZMA after you come off will help you also.

 

[MaxRep]

Hi,

I did a first cycle ( 8 weeks) with the tried and tested decca + winny.
50 winny every other day + 250 cc decca weekly. I did notice some hardness and got a little bigger. When I finished the cycle I didn't do anything but ZMA and working out hard.

I plan to start my second ( and final) cycle with EQ + winny. My questions is do I need to do a post cycle with this combo.

Yes, you need pct after this cycle

And also what dosses should I take. I was thinking 50 cc winny everyother day for 8 weeks and 400 cc (200 twice a week) of eq for 12 weeks.

First, you need to understand what you you're saying. "cc" is a measurement which stands for cubic centimeter and is exactly equal to millimeter. I don't think your dosage is 50cc's, which is also 50ml's, although it probably is 50mg's. Winstrol should really be taken every day. It has no ester so even injected it's half life is fairly short, somewhere around 10-12 hours. After 24 hours that 50mg's is down to 10-12mg's and it's time for another shot.

Eq with the winstrol could work for your stated goal. Test is generally also used for good reasons but doesn't absolutely have to be used. Late in the cycle you may start to experience some erectile dysfunction but at least you'll look good.

Start two weeks before winny and end two weeks after winny.

That's a little strange and doesn't make sense. Front load the Eq for the first 4 weeks and stop it at week 12. Start the winny at week 7 and run it through week 14. Of course you may experience some joint pain running winny for that long but at least you'll look good.

I hear that eq does NOT stop the bodys natural test so I would not need to do any post cycle.

You've been listening to an idiot. But don't take my word for it. Do your own research in the medical journals and see what suppression is all about and what it takes to cause it.

I will not take any test so please don't reccomoend it. I'm not trying to compete or anything, I'm just trying to go from a flabby body with love handles to something respectable at the beach. I'm about half way there already.

Good luck,
MaxRep

 

[Adogg4]

Thanks for the info. Why the winny for only 4 weeks ED opposed to 8 weeks EOD ?

And 2 months of EQ by itself ?

again thanks for your explanations.

What are your thoughts on nolva , instead of clomid ?

I think maxrep covered your questions on the winny. As for the EQ its effects build up slowly so u have to take it for at least 10 weeks to really get results from it. Nolva and clomid are similar in what they do, but usually nolva is used to prevent bitch tits and clomid is used during PCT. Some people say they get more emotional with clomid, so they use nolva for PCT. Either one should work, especially after a cycle such as the one you have planned.

 

[quedog123]

well after the cycle you were werking out real hard? well in that case you dont need post cycle therapy everyone else does it cause they want to and want to waist the money but its kool you are to good for it.

 

[bigginz]

Thanks everyone for the input. I definitely plan to use PCT in the future. Also I finished the first cycle about 20 days ago, so I plan to get some Clomid / Nolva ASAP.



What are some recommended "time off" periods before starting another cycle ? based on what I did and what I'm doing.

 

[rtlltj]

weeks 1-10 test 500mg
weeks 1-10 eq 400mg
weeks 7-13 winny 50mg/ed

or just leave the test out if you really hate it.