So I’m nearing the end of my cycle. I started at 250 mg test a week for 8 weeks. Moved up and started 550mg test a week as well as 200mg eq a week. My thoughts are if the eq drys me out will it be atleast a little easier to retain my gains post cycle? If PCT and diet are locked in?
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You will retain the same amount of gains as you would with any other compound. EQ isn't going to decrease the amount of water retention from the test, it's just simply a less water retentive compound.
Unless you have passed your natural genetic potential by a fair bit, you should retain everything regardless of PCT. Do the same thing you were doing with the drugs, just now without.
Unless you have passed your natural genetic potential by a fair bit, you should retain everything regardless of PCT. Do the same thing you were doing with the drugs, just now without.
Slowww
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What does being dry have to do with muscle mass staying on or being lost?
If you come off you will 100% lose weight going from 750mg to 0mg of AAS.
If you come off you will 100% lose weight going from 750mg to 0mg of AAS.
Eddie.
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Do you know that in order to have a succesfull PCT after using EQ you have to wait 2-3 months without using the compound and then proceed to PCT? EQ has a long ass halflife, if you do a normal pct protocol most probably it won't be succesful. That's why it's not advised to use EQ or deca in cycles that are followed by pct.
I'm coming off at 12 week period, wouldn't really call it a blast of Test C 140mg , primo 300mg , var 30mg daily at the end of June. Does that even warrant a pct ? My plan was to take 2 weeks off of everything and then start another 12 week, Test C, NNP and EQ, turnibol. Coming out of a leaning out phase.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
Diixencider
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any amount of aas is gunna supress you lol.
I know but but in my research some guys don't even go on PCT things come back normally I mean I have all the stuff to go on PTC I was just wondering
Slowww
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Your next cycle sounds very bad for someone who does not blast and cruise. What does it accomplish to take two weeks off everything and then a cycle?
Honestly I don’t understand this sort of protocol at all. Looks like you just want to blast and blast haha and are doing it all wrong anyways.
Honestly I don’t understand this sort of protocol at all. Looks like you just want to blast and blast haha and are doing it all wrong anyways.
Appreciate the comments I'm open to Corrections details please
Bandern
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Two weeks off is pointless. At that point just stay on if you’re not gonna pct or cruise.
Slowww
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Can you walk me through your rationale for this type of decision making so we can get to the root of this and we can fix the process that informs the choices?
Hi thanks for your time, so the goal here is to get my BF down to 12% when I started I was at 30 testosterone level was low 241 and a 63 years old. Began testosterone December 140 mg once a week. As I graduated up and became a little bit more educated I'm doing my homework I added in Prima 300 mg a week to help control my estrogen because I am hometized very easily that seems to be working out really good I added anavarand clen 12mcg and 6uis HGH ed morning before fasted cardio. I'm almost down to my 12% feel great very strong in the gym blood work as clean.
So my next cycle is going to be with a different objective now that I've reached my body fat goal I wanted to start putting on lean muscle plus my joints bother me that's why I opted for NPP, test c and eq., and I wanted to try 10mg dbol on workout days only = 5
Thoughts??
So my next cycle is going to be with a different objective now that I've reached my body fat goal I wanted to start putting on lean muscle plus my joints bother me that's why I opted for NPP, test c and eq., and I wanted to try 10mg dbol on workout days only = 5
Thoughts??
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Slowww
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So are you doing this for trt?
If so you shouldn’t be coming off, if you want to treat a legitimate hormonal problem. The amount of test primarily sounds like it was enough for your goals, and really the primo is fine too, if you’re not going to do just test. If it’s trt the doses are definitely in Cruise territory, not trt though. The fasted cardio great, hgh ok but man 120mcg clen is way overkill for a first time and over 12% body fat. Really don’t need to use that until you are well under 10% starting with 20mcg.
If you’re planning on getting off FOR REAL not just 2 weeks, which is not cycling, EQ NPP, will make it take much longer to recover from so this is not a good idea . If you’re blast and cruising ok that is totally different, but there is no rationale point in stopping all hormones for 2 weeks. Cruise periods are also generally going to be much longer than two weeks. From the first cycle ok, I don’t think it’s anything crazy outside of the clen being way too high, so it’s not going to pose some serious health risks if you take two off and then continue, but generally you are going to want to take a month at the absolute bare minimum (almost definitely more) off of blast and get blood work done before you do another cycle.
Thank you, so the journey bagan with trt and evoled into something more to me my goals, thanks for the feedback on the clen. As stated I'm doing 120mcg over three times a day, I didn't get any real side most people complain about.
I open to a suggestion if not NNP and EQ I really thought those were good solid next choices.
I thought 2 weeks would be fine for a transition because my health markers were on point, at first I wasn't going to take a break at all, my doses are low and I micro dose daily, 20mg Test C 42mg of primo.
On the steriod plotter micro dosing keeps my values constant, no spikes
I open to a suggestion if not NNP and EQ I really thought those were good solid next choices.
I thought 2 weeks would be fine for a transition because my health markers were on point, at first I wasn't going to take a break at all, my doses are low and I micro dose daily, 20mg Test C 42mg of primo.
On the steriod plotter micro dosing keeps my values constant, no spikes
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Slowww
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2 weeks off is weird not because of bloods. It’s just odd to want to take away all hormones, if you should be using trt and then start blasting instead of using a small amount that will keep your testosterone, estrogen etc in a normal and healthy range. Personally if my hormones swing I will get very bad acne, so coming off like that randomly would definitely give me some bad side effects. Now that you explained more clearly it makes much more sense. And if you will not get off (when we say cycle it is on and off- no gear) then there’s really no issue with NPP and EQ, just be careful because some people are prone to bad sides with either of these. Might want to add one at a time and see response
You should always start a new thread rather than jam someone else's up. You'll get more interest that way also.
Your test ester is most likely a lot shorter than the eq. You'll want to run it an extra one to three weeks longer, so you dont just have Eq in your system leading up to pct.
Everyone else seems to have covered the other points.
