Equipoise Experiences and opinions.

[ebkallday]

Love it at 1000mg a week with 500mg test for a 20 week run. EQ makes me a bottomless pit and I get bad hunger pains. Be careful as demon said your hemocrit will jump. I always donate double reds midway and at the end of the cycle. I waited too long and was turned away from the donation center cause it was too high. I had to get a script from my doc just so they would take the donation.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

EQ is a great steroid, especially for a beginner
Even if it converts to an Estrogenic compound, I've never heard of anyone getting gyno, bloat or ED from it
so it probably converts to a weaker Estrogen than Estradiol

Make sure you use enough of it.
Start with 600 mg/week, pyramid up to 800 or 1g if you can handle it.
So far it ain't clear if it increases Hematocrit more than other steroids. In case it does, get blood tests and donate blood twice during the cycle.

Be aware that being Boldenone a veterinary drug, there are no well defined qyality reference standards, unlike the US Pharmacopeia for human use drugs.
Veterinary Drug Monographs - American Academy of Veterinary Pharmacology and Therapeutics

Only Boldenone UNDECYLENATE is widely registered for legal sale.
Other ones like Boldenone Acetate, Cypionate, Propionate, no ester, are made specifically for the black market thus totally unregulated and often of poor (untested) quality.

Boldenone by itself is a beginner's drug
beyond a certain point you'll need Dbol, Adrol, Tren or Test as your main mass/strength steroid.

EQ vs Deca/NPP

Eq Better quality muscle gains
Deca Lower quality gains

Eq slightly less gains
Deca better gains, albeit lower quality
(actually both Eq/Deca yield very nice quality gains as compared to Testosterone)

Eq no risk of gyno or ED
Deca a few get gyno, ED is common in Deca-only cycles

Due to primo high price/fakes
EQ is the new primo
although some say Masteron Enanthate is the new Primo on steroids

Every time i see you give advice i just wanna reach thru my computer screen and baptise you with a dose of reality. You fucking idiot. Stop giving out advice

 

[Alex.stmpnk]

Op ignore Mater.on and you'll have a better life

If you're not gaining from Eq, the odds are your Eq isn't Eq.

And for God sake you dont need a fucking gram of Eq.

A good rule of thumb is run your test, say you're running 600mg/week then run about half of that in Eq. So 300ish.....maybe 400. But not a fucking gram.

I'm on my first ever cycle; I'm doing 100mg bolde and 100mg test prop EOD for 8 weeks; that is about 300mg boldenone per week; some users have told me 300 bolde per week is not enough; I have read articles that you can see benefits from boldenone with doses as low as 300 a week; other articles say you need a gram a week to actually see gains; so much contradictory information

 

[Wunderpus]

Every time i see you give advice i just wanna reach thru my computer screen and baptise you with a dose of reality. You fucking idiot. Stop giving out advice

Immediately when I see "EQ no risk of gyno" I am reminded, for the ten millionth time, he's retarded and dangerous. EQ DOES carry a risk of gyno.

 

[Robfromga]

Op ignore Mater.on and you'll have a better life

If you're not gaining from Eq, the odds are your Eq isn't Eq.

And for God sake you dont need a fucking gram of Eq.

Every time i see you give advice i just wanna reach thru my computer screen and baptise you with a dose of reality. You fucking idiot. Stop giving out advice

Hopefully enough people see us posting below his BS where no one follows his bullshit and dangerous advise. I won't even quote him, as to not raise his "status".

 

[master.on]

I'm on my first ever cycle; I'm doing 100mg bolde and 100mg test prop EOD for 8 weeks; that is about 300mg boldenone per week; some users have told me 300 bolde per week is not enough; I have read articles that you can see benefits from boldenone with doses as low as 300 a week; other articles say you need a gram a week to actually see gains; so much contradictory information

Too little IMO
bump to 500 or 600 mg/week

Immediately when I see "EQ no risk of gyno" I am reminded, for the ten millionth time, he's retarded and dangerous. EQ DOES carry a risk of gyno.

It's a minimal risk
I haven't heard of any real life case.

Your natural Testosterone levels pose a worse gyno risk than EQ.

 

[dutchez7]

What's up everyone. I've been doing alot of research lately for my second cycle, and my focus has been stuck on Equipoise. On paper when you look at its profile it seems to be a pretty great compound. The fact that it converts to estrogen at about half the rate of Test is what really grabs my attention. But with that said, there seems to be alot of conflicting opinions about it as far as dosing and cycle length or weather or not it's worth using at all.

So please share any experiences you have had with Equipose and include dosing, cycle length, and any other info you feel is important.

Back in 2001-2004 I took it regualarly by itself or in combo with winstrol. Gains were nice and hard; very vascular. 400 mg a week of eq, 50mg eod of winny. Usually put on about 7-10 with right diet. A lot of people shit on Eq, but my experiences were always great. Body builder friend of mine loved it too. Ripped SOB. He stayed on it straight for 4 months at 250 mg a week by itself as maintenance.

 

[master.on]

So despite what shills say
it should be clear that EQ is a nice and safe beginner's alternative to Deca or Test.

Now for a great yet safe cycle
the OP could pyramid up from 500 to 800mg or even 1 g
and he can add 50 mg Anadrol in the last 4 weeks
He can add 5 mg Nolva (just 1/4 tab) for some gyno protection with virtually no side effects.

As much as EQ is a nice, safe alternative to Test, Deca
Anadrol is a actually a safer alternative to Dianabol. Hard to get gyno from Adrol, and liver damage is overrated. Hard to get permanent damage from Adrol 50 mg x 4 weeks.

 

[dutchez7]

Agreed w most of that. I loved EQ. Was best of both worlds; lean, vascular plus some good mass where decca was more bulk/water.

I would avoid pyramid. Does not make sense to pyramid down; waste of hormones. Front loading would make sense though. I never FL'ed and always had great success, but I get it's logic.

 

[jJjburton]

Agreed w most of that. I loved EQ. Was best of both worlds; lean, vascular plus some good mass where decca was more bulk/water.

I would avoid pyramid. Does not make sense to pyramid down; waste of hormones. Front loading would make sense though. I never FL'ed and always had great success, but I get it's logic.

front load is dumb. I have not noticed a difference at all. If anything. Not pyramiding would be because, if you don't front load it pyramids up to the right dose anyway. It doesn't get to the dose instantly. It gradually reaches the point that 500 mg would be at.

 

[ErikR]

EQ is great if it's good EQ. When I ran EQ it was vet grade. I tried quality vet and it was good too. After I tried some other ugl and it was garbage. I only ran 400 mg of EQ and got good gains. I won't even touch another ugl EQ because everybody talks about , you need to run 800mg+ to get gains. Fuck that. And it raises your rbc more then anything. I was walking around like a tomato. Red face.

 

[DedLift]

So despite what shills say
it should be clear that EQ is a nice and safe beginner's alternative to Deca or Test.

Now for a great yet safe cycle
the OP could pyramid up from 500 to 800mg or even 1 g
and he can add 50 mg Anadrol in the last 4 weeks
He can add 5 mg Nolva (just 1/4 tab) for some gyno protection with virtually no side effects.

As much as EQ is a nice, safe alternative to Test, Deca
Anadrol is a actually a safer alternative to Dianabol. Hard to get gyno from Adrol, and liver damage is overrated. Hard to get permanent damage from Adrol 50 mg x 4 weeks.

EQ will raise Hematocrit drastically, therefore it could be an extremely risky steroid for those already prone to high BP. A beginner steroid? You really need to shut up and stop pretending you know enough to give advice. Your advice could get someone hurt. Prome to anxiety? Dont use EQ. Prome to high BP? Don't use EQ.
Its a love it or hate it drug in that its effectiveness varies greatly from one person to the next. Also @master.on , to tell someone to use over 600/wk of any steroid they've never done before is irresponsible and stupid. Always start dosing at a minimum if its your first time using it and gradually increase the dose.

 

[DedLift]

EQ is great if it's good EQ. When I ran EQ it was vet grade. I tried quality vet and it was good too. After I tried some other ugl and it was garbage. I only ran 400 mg of EQ and got good gains. I won't even touch another ugl EQ because everybody talks about , you need to run 800mg+ to get gains. Fuck that. And it raises your rbc more then anything. I was walking around like a tomato. Red face.

Same here. Flushed all over my body and nosebleeds several times a day. No good when you're working and your nose starts leaking all over the place

 

[A-a-Ron]

I'm on my first ever cycle; I'm doing 100mg bolde and 100mg test prop EOD for 8 weeks; that is about 300mg boldenone per week; some users have told me 300 bolde per week is not enough; I have read articles that you can see benefits from boldenone with doses as low as 300 a week; other articles say you need a gram a week to actually see gains; so much contradictory information

I can tell you with certain types 8 weeks is not enough time. I do think see anything until week 12 (although around weeks 6 to 8 I feel the strength increase). After week 12, the visible gains are great from my personal experience.
Also, I would not say equipoise is a cutting drunk, but rather a lean bulking drug.

 

[master.on]

EQ will raise Hematocrit drastically, therefore it could be an extremely risky steroid for those already prone to high BP. A beginner steroid? You really need to shut up and stop pretending you know enough to give advice. Your advice could get someone hurt. Prome to anxiety? Dont use EQ. Prome to high BP? Don't use EQ.
Its a love it or hate it drug in that its effectiveness varies greatly from one person to the next. Also @master.on , to tell someone to use over 600/wk of any steroid they've never done before is irresponsible and stupid. Always start dosing at a minimum if its your first time using it and gradually increase the dose.

People with high BP shouldn't use ANY steroids
probably not even lift until they get BP in control

It is debatable whether Equipoise really raises Hematocrit MORE than other steroids. At the end all steroids
Me and many other thousand BBers have safely used high doses of EQ in their first cycles.
If you read my post carefully I advise both pyramiding up and donating blood twice during the cycle.
Many newbies have successfully done 500 even 750 mg/week Testosterone, how can a milder steroid (EQ) be worse at 600?

@DedLift it sounds like you're an older guy
how old are you, just out of curiosity?
Younger guys get ample warning (headaches, palpitations, before high Hematocrit ever becomes a problem)
No offense but just because you're an older guy doesn't mean everyone is as frail as you are.

 

[zinergy]

People with high BP shouldn't use ANY steroids
probably not even lift until they get BP in control

It is debatable whether Equipoise really raises Hematocrit MORE than other steroids. At the end all steroids
Me and many other thousand BBers have safely used high doses of EQ in their first cycles.
If you read my post carefully I advise both pyramiding up and donating blood twice during the cycle.
Many newbies have successfully done 500 even 750 mg/week Testosterone, how can a milder steroid (EQ) be worse at 600?

@DedLift it sounds like you're an older guy
how old are you, just out of curiosity?
Younger guys get ample warning (headaches, palpitations, before high Hematocrit ever becomes a problem)
No offense but just because you're an older guy doesn't mean everyone is as frail as you are.

How can you make such a vague blanket statement like that? You don't know about anyones specific condition, they may have a low hematocrit to begin with and even while using EQ, or they may have an underlying blood disorder or suffer from some type of anemia, so you're advice to donate blood may actually do more harm than good.

You should probably stop giving advice.

 

[DedLift]

People with high BP shouldn't use ANY steroids
probably not even lift until they get BP in control

It is debatable whether Equipoise really raises Hematocrit MORE than other steroids. At the end all steroids
Me and many other thousand BBers have safely used high doses of EQ in their first cycles.
If you read my post carefully I advise both pyramiding up and donating blood twice during the cycle.
Many newbies have successfully done 500 even 750 mg/week Testosterone, how can a milder steroid (EQ) be worse at 600?

@DedLift it sounds like you're an older guy
how old are you, just out of curiosity?
Younger guys get ample warning (headaches, palpitations, before high Hematocrit ever becomes a problem)
No offense but just because you're an older guy doesn't mean everyone is as frail as you are.

Im 37 but still get carded because i look much younger. EQ unquestionably raises RBC more than other aas. I don't have bp issues and don't take medication for bp. I'm just going by my own experiences with it and my hrc and rbc were still way up there 2 months after I stopped using it. If it's a mild steroid, its only mild for muscle building, not sides. Again, only my experience with it. Id love to be able to run it again because i stocked up before i tried it and ill never use it again.

 

[Robfromga]

Im 37 but still get carded because i look much younger. EQ unquestionably raises RBC more than other aas. I don't have bp issues and don't take medication for bp. I'm just going by my own experiences with it and my hrc and rbc were still way up there 2 months after I stopped using it. If it's a mild steroid, its only mild for muscle building, not sides. Again, only my experience with it. Id love to be able to run it again because i stocked up before i tried it and ill never use it again.

He's a idiot. Don't bother debating him, you'll just end up with a head ache. He quotes Google shit like he knows what he's saying.

 

[WarLord]

For the sides with EQ, I'd take Winny Depot for vascularity and strength any day of the week. Far as appetite goes, mild cardio makes me destroy food.

 

[SEOINAGE]

1 gram of eq, 20 weeks. Was having issues even half way through. Gains weren't nearly as good as other compounds. Just didn't seem worth the trouble and risk.