Humble-Beast
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Gotcha, well damn, that's good to know. What was your sweet spot for finasteride, and were you already running it prior to introducing the EQ?
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Jesintn
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depends on testosterone dose. 0.65 mgs . taken two days following a 125 mgs test shot, doesnt have too many negative effects, ones that were managable. For a 250 mgs test shot , still have to expirement.
Yes, finasteride is generally used year round, as long as testosterone is used.
Do you have expirience with 5 ar inhibitors and testosterone, or other hormones , that are okay to use with 5 ar inhibitors?
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Ryu82
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That's what she said...
sneak007
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This drug is a moderately potent AI for me..prevents gyno or any other major hi-estrogen symptoms for me. I find it similarly potent as testosterone though as far as dosage goes...for me it's not a weak drug
Humble-Beast
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I've ran test to 500 and no issues with acne or hair loss, prostate yet, so I haven't had a reason to. Unless there's other benefits?
Haven't ran mast or promo yet, but mast is coming as well as EQ. Plan is to start eq and test 1:1 @500/wk at the end of next month. Dbol for low estro sides, AI and up the eq for high estro sides.
If I end upping the test and get dht sides can't I just start the finasteride then?
xrayphoton13
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Check out these two articles below from our own member @Type-IIx
Thread 'Boldenone (EQ) Misconceptions and Comparison with Metenolone (Primo) [Author: Type-IIx]' Boldenone (EQ) Misconceptions and Comparison with Metenolone (Primo) [Author: Type-IIx]
"Estrone (E1) is a weak estrogen, because lacks the 17β-OH group, it possesses only 2% of E2's potency to transactivate ERα (associated with aromatizing effects, many of which are negative side effects in men)."
Primobolan / Equipoise Crashed my E2 – Help!
Understand the complex interaction of Primobolan and Equipoise with estrogen levels, symptoms of low estrogens, and practical decision-making strategies for managing these effects in AAS users.
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BamaCrazy
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Don’t start fin unless you think you are prone to male pattern baldness. EQ isn’t going to give you issues but Mast might if you are prone to balding. I’ve thrown Mast, Primo and Proviron at my hair in high doses and no hair loss at all. Had I started fin without needing it I’d have caused myself unnecessary shedding.
Humble-Beast
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Thanks man, that's what I was worried about.. if I ever get shedding I think I'll either accept it, or whip up some topical fin or RU.
I did test and boldenone cyp for a while and even though my e2 was about 20 in bloods I had spicy nipples and possible exacerbation of gyno. After a while of ruling everything out and identifying it was the boldenone likely ramping e1 up despite lowering/controlling e2, i tried a bit of aromasin which helped, and then i went back to test/ primo (still with a little bold) and the issue completely cleared up with e2 still in the 20's.
Jesintn
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A lot of depends on genetics. If I could get away with out using a 5 ar inhibitor with testosterone, without prostate, hair,or any other negative effects, I would.
Absolutely. Even 025 mgs can reduce dht some. With 500 mgs test it wont do much ime. Its getting in there and expirementing. From expirience finasteride to testosterone dose seems to be dose dependant.
ILikeExperiments
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Did you end up running this test eq primo stack?yes, for sure you may add anything you prefer. I just wanted to show my example of a good cycle based on EQ.
Adding a DHT derivative such as Primobolan or Drostanolone (Mast) would be a great cycle for low sides effects, very clean/quality gains, and a hard/dry look.
Replacing the 19-nor with one of these awesome DHT based compunds (as I mention, Primo is tied for my favorite compound and it would be excellent for someone already lean or cutting.
Something such as the following would be very interesting -- your comment has me wanting to try it:
600 mg EQ
600 mg Test
600 mg Primo-E (or 600 mg Drostanolone; I would use Dro-E just to keep esters all similar timing).
Or, of course instead of adding other compounds, or just in addition to the other compounds (everything we mention here are relatively safe and I assume people make healthy lifestyle and diet choices etc. if they are running AAS), we can always add more EQ if there is some desire for more anabolics (I have run EQ up to a gram when I was a lean 240 lb and not only did I look great, I had no issues -- blood works were checked every 6 weeks and I donate blood 3 to 4 times a year -- everything always looked good).
Depending upon what an individual's budget can handle, Primo may also be run relatively high without issue -- I have actually never heard of anyone complain about some serious health issue from running "too much" primo -- I think most people will run out of money before he or she ever adds too much Primo to a cycle.
How was it?
Frontloaded 150mg of eq on top of test/tren/npp/mast, purely for the reduced aromatization of test/NPP to E2. Intended to run 50mg a week. Felt like crap after the eq and had to inject some MENT to raise my estrogen levels. Felt a lot better.
Now, something unexpected has happened. I have social anxiety disorder and I'm on mirtazapine for that and depression. The eq seems to have massively helped with my social anxiety disorder. I don't understand how or why, but I'm super dgaf atm. 200mg of tren already took me part of the way there, but the eq seems to have kicked things up a notch. Really unexpected.
Now, something unexpected has happened. I have social anxiety disorder and I'm on mirtazapine for that and depression. The eq seems to have massively helped with my social anxiety disorder. I don't understand how or why, but I'm super dgaf atm. 200mg of tren already took me part of the way there, but the eq seems to have kicked things up a notch. Really unexpected.
ILikeExperiments
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What does MAOI mean?
IndividualMan
Member
mono amine oxidase inhibitor. these thingies are usually used in antidepressants
What MAOI effect did you get?
Dunno what he speaks about ...... I use Methylene Blue which should be a MAO inhibitor and never noticed anything together with EQ....
It's possible you get enough inhibition with methylene blue that boldenone doesn't do anything more for you. From reading it appears the effects of methylene blue level off at a certain point as far as MAO inhibition, and higher doses have no additional effect.
I'm on mirtazapine. Someone on an SSRI should proceed with caution with boldenone
I am on:
750 TestD
750 EQ
300 TrenE
350 Anadrol
10iu HGH
*50mg Fluvoxamine
*10mg Metilene Blue
Feeling Great mate.*those two work with some synergy.
Lucky, I've felt off since I started boldenone, but it's also had a profound effect on my social anxiety.
I'm on:
300 test (prop and E)
500mg mast (prop and e)
200mg NPP
200mg tren e
150mg eq is all it took.
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