Equipose Question

[bigginz]

If someone runs an EQ only cycle lets say 500 mg / wk for 12 weeks...

Can / Is there such a thing as eq gyno (similar to Decca gyno) ?

Would a nolva only PCT be good enough ?

Would adding winny for the last two weeks, then 2 weeks after the eq be advisable ?



Is there an EQ dick (similar to decca dick) ?






Thanks

 

[Fronkthis]

Deca aromatises to progesterone and that is what causes the deca dick.
EQ aromatises to estrogen which also can affect libido.

EQ doesnt aromatise much and at the doses you outlines you should be fine.

EQ alone wont show much of gains, and takes a while to kick in.
WHy not add some Test to that EQ dose. Test is cheap and should be the basis of every stack.

as far as the winny goes, EQ and winny are a great combo for vascularity.

use it the last 3 weeks of your EQ and up until a 10 days after your last EQ injection. Then start your PCT.

 

[Adogg4]

bro EQ is not as androgenic as some other gear out there, it is primarily an anabolic-given this, it can cause EQ dick

if u run it by itself I would up the dosage a bit to 600-800mg/weekly
or just keep it at 500mg but add some test which will prevent EQ dick

the winstrol should be run for 3 weeks after your last shot of EQ, given the long clearance time of EQ, 10 days is not enough

 

[Turbo1]

6-800 a week is alot for someone who may be looking to start his first cycle IMHO. I think BIGKB ran EQ only for like 10 or 12 weeks and he had no problems with libido. I think its a good idea. I'd try and run it longer as it is a lean mass drug. 4-500mg/week for 16 weeks bro. Nice slow lean gains. Start Winny 2 weeks before EQ runs out and run it 3 weeks after EQ runs out. Then start PCT I think NOLVA PCT alone would be fine as I dont think EQ while cause the boys to shrink so no need of HCG. I'd run with with the Nolva bro unless someone else has some other ideas...Also what are your stats bro and any experience with AAS before?? Give us some feedback on yourself bro

 

[Fronkthis]

thanks Adogg wasnt sure how long the undecyclate ester lasted. That sucks for PCT.
I understand that its mainly an anabolic but it is androgenic as well.
there is no EQ dick. then you could say there is winny dick, dbol dick, basically any "dick"
the only ones that are true are the deca, tren, anadrol progesterone induced limp dick

 

[Turbo1]

thanks Adogg wasnt sure how long the undecyclate ester lasted. That sucks for PCT.
I understand that its mainly an anabolic but it is androgenic as well.
there is no EQ dick. then you could say there is winny dick, dbol dick, basically any "dick"
the only ones that are true are the deca, tren, anadrol progesterone induced limp dick

You say it sucks for PCT but not really. your suppose to wait 3 weeks after last shot of EQ to start PCT but since Winny is in there then everything will be good. Besides hes talking about running EQ only, its not a 1000mg/week of Anabolic/androgenic steroids so its not like hes gonna pack on 40lbs and risk loosing it. I think if this is is first cycle and he runs 400mg/ 16 weeks he should see a good 10-15lb gain. Thats if his Diet is dead nuts and training is proper!! Time for bed...

 

[bigginz]

Thanks for the answers so far.


I still would liketo know if there is such a thing as EQ gyno ?

stats are 5' 10" 215 was
240 and FAT

been in the gym hardcore for over a year and I'm starting to look good.

I have a somewhat big frame so I'm more into loosing BF and getting some small gains to add to my frame.

so should something like this be o.k. ?

week 1- 16 eq 600 mg / wk
week 15-19 winny 50 mg / EoD
week 19 Nolva PCT


I was also thinking of adding decca 150 mg every 10 days to help with joints , plus I have some lying around (5 200 mg bottles just sitting there).

 

[Adogg4]

Thanks for the answers so far.


I still would liketo know if there is such a thing as EQ gyno ?

stats are 5' 10" 215 was
240 and FAT

been in the gym hardcore for over a year and I'm starting to look good.

I have a somewhat big frame so I'm more into loosing BF and getting some small gains to add to my frame.

so should something like this be o.k. ?

week 1- 16 eq 600 mg / wk
week 15-19 winny 50 mg / EoD
week 19 Nolva PCT


I was also thinking of adding decca 150 mg every 10 days to help with joints , plus I have some lying around (5 200 mg bottles just sitting there).

bro a 19 weeker will shut you down fairly hard, get some HCG to run along with the nolva for PCT. As far as EQ gyno, it is possible if you are extremely sensitive to it, but not likely. if you do notice some, just use some of your nolvas.

I would recommend the winstrol at 50mg/ED, otherwise you are only talking about 175mg/week which IMO wont do a whole lot

cycle looks good though

 

[MaxRep]

Thanks for the answers so far.


I still would liketo know if there is such a thing as EQ gyno ?

stats are 5' 10" 215 was
240 and FAT

been in the gym hardcore for over a year and I'm starting to look good.

I have a somewhat big frame so I'm more into loosing BF and getting some small gains to add to my frame.

so should something like this be o.k. ?

week 1- 16 eq 600 mg / wk
week 15-19 winny 50 mg / EoD
week 19 Nolva PCT


I was also thinking of adding decca 150 mg every 10 days to help with joints , plus I have some lying around (5 200 mg bottles just sitting there).

You don't need or want to add the deca. No benefit at that dosage. Save it for your next cycle and use it right. You shouldn't have a joint problem if you're on the winny for just 4 weeks.

Change your winny to 4 weeks usage during weeks 16-19. It must be run ED.

Yes, you can get gyno from eq however, you shouldn't have a gyno problem with just eq at that dosage. Eq does aromatize somewhat so adding a little arimidex, say .25mg/day would be plenty although, I'm hesitant to really suggest that as some estrogen is good and your gains will be better.

For those who think all estrogen does is add bloat and gyno, estrogen is actually a major component in muscle growth. It increases glucose utilization, GH/IGF-1 levels, androgen receptor concentration and reduces cholesterol.

With a cycle of that length, hcg followed by clomid or nolva is a must. During hcg usage, an anti e must also be used.

Good luck,
MaxRep

P.S. For the 1st two weeks, you should really bump up your eq to 1,000mg/wk.

 

[billydidit]

week 1- 16 eq 600 mg / wk
week 15-19 winny 50 mg / EoD
week 19 Nolva PCT

About your cycle...

I suggest that you take 50mg ED of Winny and remember to dring a gallon of water ED to protect your liver (you may even feel like upping it to 50mg 2xs per day). You should also consider taking Test during your entire cycle and you could try Clomid (50mg ED for 5 weeks) 1 day after your last winny dose.

You don't have to take Nolva unless you see/feel symptoms (correct me if I am wrong) but you would want to take it ED during your cycle or starting mid cycle.

 

[bigginz]

thnaks for all the input, just some more ?'s


Would eq gyno be the same as decca gyno ? and if that is the case then nolva wouldn't do much, correct ?

At this point I only have nolva, do I need clomid ? HCG ?

Does the nolva need to be ran during cycle ? or just post ?


So far the cycle has been adjusted to :

week 1-2 eq 1000mg / wk (front load)
week 3- 16 eq 600 mg / wk
week 15-18 winny 50 mg / ED
week 18 Nolva PCT

 

[MaxRep]

Would eq gyno be the same as decca gyno ?

No, it's not the same.

And I don't want to be hard on you but I think all your other latest questions have already been answered, in various places throughout this thread.

MaxRep

 

[bigginz]

O.K.

I just re-read the thread and found the answers to the last ?'s


Thanks all for the great input. These sites are terffic for advice / info.



-Bigginz