Erectile dysfunction during Test/Tbol Cycle

[BlazinDayz]

Hey all,

New to this forum and to PEDS in general. Have been lifting for the past 18 years and was looking for a boost this winter.
Stats as below:
Age: 42
Weight: 210#s
BF: 17%

Began my first cycle on Monday.
Oxygen T400 - twice weekly - 200mg/pin (100mg each - testosterone cypionate, decanoate, enanthate & propionate)
Tbol - 40mg Daily
Aromasin - 6.25mg Daily

PCT:
Nolvadex - 20mg Daily
I have HCG onhand as well for the latter part of the cycle.

A few observations so far.
New muscle pip was worse than I anticipated. Felt like someone punched me in the leg with a sledge hammer.
Weird aftertaste in my mouth ~20 mins after pinning.
My heart rate has jumped about an average of 10 bpm while training. Feel sluggish while jogging.
And now, suffering some serious ED. I've never experienced this before.

So a couple of questions:
Too much E2 is causing the ED? Should I increase the aromasin?
Is twice weekly pinning of the test sufficient? Will the long acting decanoate ester provide a balance againts the fast acting prop?

No bloodwork yet. On it. Made an appointment with doc already.

 

[finroid]

Twice a week is fine, even once a week could be possible if you don't mind a bit of fluctuation in the blood concentrations.
I think the more likely reason for ED might be too low E2. You just started 5 days ago, the esters have barely began to kick in but have dropped your natural production already and you do AI everyday for a dose of 400mg/wk. At 400mg/wk some do not need AI, and people like me would probably do them once or twice a week.

 

[CagedApe]

Absolutely E2 can be too high and yes that is probably what you should do. Try 12.5 and then go from there. Bloods should be pulled though. Make sure that the red flags in your blood panel is going to scare the doctor. Pinning twice a week is perfect for that compound. Good luck

 

[Testisthebest15]

The way you wrote the test dose is confusing. So 400mg a week?

If I were running that same cycle that daily dose of aromasin would be causing my dick not to work. High e2 can cause dick problems but in most cases it’s gotta be very very high. I would be feeling like shit taking 6.25mg of aromasin every day. I take that dose once a week with 500mg of test a week. Everyone is different though. It’s become very common for people to assume they need an AI and over do it and crash there e2 lately.

Not sure what country your in but in the USA in most states you can just pay for blood work and avoid the doc appointment. It’s much quicker and you can resolve the problem faster. Unless you feel seeing a doc is what you need. I would get blood work and see if your e2 is low asap.

 

[Evom1]

Aromasin - 6.25mg Daily

Your e2 is way too low because of this. Back off that dose. Wayy too much


Also, you're going to have bad pip because you have test prop in your injections

 

[BlazinDayz]

The way you wrote your dose of test is very confusing. So you’re taking 200mg twice a week? So 400mg a week?

If thats the case and I were running that same cycle that daily dose of aromasin would be causing my dick not to work. High e2 can cause dick problems but in most cases it’s gotta be very very high. I would be feeling like shit taking 6.25mg of aromasin every day. I take that dose once a week with 500mg of test a week. Everyone is different though. It’s become very common for people to assume they need an AI and over do it and crash there e2 lately.

I would get blood work and see if your e2 is low.

You're right, it is confusing. Yes 400mg / week. Pinned twice weekly at 200mg each.
I'm worried about gyno, perhaps irrationally so but nonetheless, it's a issue I don't want to have to run into. I'll back off the ai.

 

[Evom1]

You're right, it is confusing. Yes 400mg / week. Pinned twice weekly at 200mg each.
I'm worried about gyno, perhaps irrationally so but nonetheless, it's a issue I don't want to have to run into. I'll back off the ai.

If you're that worried, run nolva all through the cycle, it blocks the receptor. Back off the ai. You won't grow well either with super low e2

 

[Testisthebest15]

You're right, it is confusing. Yes 400mg / week. Pinned twice weekly at 200mg each.
I'm worried about gyno, perhaps irrationally so but nonetheless, it's a issue I don't want to have to run into. I'll back off the ai.

It’s a valid concern. Gyno sucks! However it takes time to really set in. If you’re vigilant you can reverse it quickly. If you were running a high of dbol and not Tbol you may very well need that dose. It’s an easy mistake not the end of the world.

Hopefully it’s just mild low e2 and not crashed. I keep raloxifene on hand, and you said you have nolvadex. Very similar. If pain nips begin, pop one day and it will stop everything going on up there with in a few days. That’s kind of the band aid fix. Getting your e2 in check would be the real fix. Serms like nolvadex have stood the test of time over the years.

 

[Leg_locker]

I take it u live in Canada if ur using oxygen. Unless u have a good relationship with ur dr Lie to get the tests u need or use Onmen. It does sound more like u have to low estrogen taking a ai at that dose right out of that gate with no experience or blood work isn't the best idea.

Is twice weekly pinning of the test sufficient? Will the long acting decanoate ester provide a balance againts the fast acting prop?

Twice a week is fine.how long is ur cycle going to be test d takes a long time to reach stable levels.
personally I'm not a fan of sust or multi ester test brews always got bad acne from the them.

What size needle are you using? Also recommend giving glutes or VG a try. I avoid my legs at all costs I know they are popular but so many horror stories out there form legs.

 

[mr.redpill]

Are you saying that you started your cycle 5 days ago and already deploying AI ?

Aromasin - 6.25mg Daily

If so... ^ That's fucked. 44mg of asin weekly would send my balls back inside me.

That's your culprit there.

Either that or your T is bunk and your Tbol is actually cerazette.

Pull the asin and your pecker will be happy again.

 

[TrenTrenTren]

Too much aromasin. Thank God you weren't taking that much Adex. You wouldn't even have an E2 level probably. Adex is extremely fast acting. Never underestimate estradiol in sexual function. You need it.

Just a question. Why Tbol on your first cycle?

 

[CagedApe]

Everyone saying he's too low, he hasn't taken anything yet and taking test doesn't lower your E2 dummy.

 

[Evom1]

Began my first cycle on Monday.
Oxygen T400 - twice weekly - 200mg/pin (100mg each - testosterone cypionate, decanoate, enanthate & propionate)
Tbol - 40mg Daily
Aromasin - 6.25mg Daily

"began Monday.... "

Everyone saying he's too low, he hasn't taken anything yet and taking test doesn't lower your E2 dummy.

Aromasin does....

 

[Testisthebest15]

Everyone saying he's too low, he hasn't taken anything yet and taking test doesn't lower your E2 dummy.

What? He put on his post he’s taking 6.25mg of aromasin daily…

 

[CagedApe]

What? He put on his post he’s taking 6.25mg of aromasin daily…

My bad.

 

[TrenTrenTren]

Everyone saying he's too low, he hasn't taken anything yet and taking test doesn't lower your E2 dummy.

Right. He started everything last week. Test raises your E2, but not in a week. He already started taking asin. Not needed. In a week the asin could begin to affect E2 levels and lower libido. I'm a fan of not taking ANY ai unless you have gyno symptoms. Elevated estrogen levels create an anabolic environment in your body and it improves sexual function.

 

[BlazinDayz]

I take it u live in Canada if ur using oxygen. Unless u have a good relationship with ur dr Lie to get the tests u need or use Onmen. It does sound more like u have to low estrogen taking a ai at that dose right out of that gate with no experience or blood work isn't the best idea.

Twice a week is fine.how long is ur cycle going to be test d takes a long time to reach stable levels.
personally I'm not a fan of sust or multi ester test brews always got bad acne from the them.

What size needle are you using? Also recommend giving glutes or VG a try. I avoid my legs at all costs I know they are popular but so many horror stories out there form legs.

Apparently one can be too safe. I dropped the AI. Feel better already. Yes in Canada.
10 week cycle. Should I switch to just Test E?
25ga needle

Just a question. Why Tbol on your first cycle?

I did an oral only cycle last winter with Tbol. Had good results.