I have recovered just fine on 4 weeks of PCT... for a short, rather mild cycle where everything was on point (diet, supplementation and training, mostly "classic" lifts like deadlift/squats/etc) and no cardio. But I think considering my last "lesson" this might not be enough at all if you have cycled anything for >6 weeks that cannot be considered "mild". If LH/FSH are high and TT is correspondingly high, PCT is working. Whether you keep those levels after cessation and clearing of the meds, is a different issue, but at least you aren't left wondering if you are primary... which sucks big time.
It probably gets worse with age and the number of cycles under your belt, I guess. So 100% agreed.
How do you deal with the elevation of liver values? (since most OTC stuff except for TUDCA, is bunk and a waste of $).
How about testicular atrophy in absence of hCG? Is there such a thing as recovery "on your own" provided that you are young? I haven't found much reliable information on this out there.
Agreed, PCT is working if all of those things are working correctly.
I simply don't trust what goes around these days for the basic users. Most are going to run the RC way, and be getting either bunk, or underdosed prodcut and come off at 4 weeks thinking they are great. This why I don't suggest tappering much,and i suggest an extra week because why not you know? extra safe.
Tudca is the only proven liver support and i agree most otc stuff is crap.
But, compared to the amount people drink daily, 5 weeks of pct combined with some OTC assit, as well as plenty of water and a healthy diet is nothing to worry about.
PS: Cycle Assist/Cycle Support personally have done nothing for me always. And I have got blood work done and this is my take on the subject. There seems to be no proof of milk thistle being effective at all, outside of the industry, anyway. TUDCA/UDCA though are proven, but UDCA is difficult to source and very expensive.
