Fake gear affecting cycle

[ZEUS]

I started a cycle a little over 5 weeks ago with d-bol and prop that I know was real. I wanted to use prop for the first few weeks and then use enanthate. Anyways, by week three I was already seeing incredible results. I gained 15lbs, and I had definitely lost body fat. My strength was also going through the roof. After week 3, I switched to some enanthate that I have and continued taking it until now. Despite the fact that I kept using the d-bol, my strength hasn't really improved in the last couple of weeks. I stopped using the d-bol a few days ago, and now I feel very weak and tired. Obviously, I am convinced that the stuff was fake, because I don't feel like I'm on anymore. Instead, I feel like I have no test running through me at all, which would be true if it were fake.

What I want to know is how bad this will fuck me up. I have some legit PL test enanthate on hand that I took a shot of tonight, but how long should it take for my test levels to rise back up if I keep using real test from now on? Should I take like 10mgs of d-bol each day to maintain my test levels until the test kicks in? I'd appreciate any thoughts or advice that anyone has.

Thanks,
ZEUS

 

[spound]

The test E could have just not kicked in yet.....it takes 2-5 weeks ya know

 

[ZEUS]

The test E could have just not kicked in yet.....it takes 2-5 weeks ya know

Believe me, the stuff was fake. In the 3 days since I stopped taking d-bol, I've lost 8lbs.

The main question that I have is: Does it take 2-5 weeks for test enanthate to act as test in your body(bringing up your test levels), or does the 2-5 weeks time frame refer to how long before results are seen?

 

[spound]

Both, i believe

 

[shredalean]

YOu should have been taking them both at the same time, stopping the prop three weeks in and using it as a kickstart. What kind of test E is it that you think is fake?

 

[spound]

All that weight you dropped is probably all water weight, the Enth. would take 2-5 weeks from the day you started injecting it to see any results from it. I agree w/ shred you should've been doin them together....now i would keep the prop in there for like 2 more weeks w/ the entat

 

[TheTruth]

Bro the enanthate hasn't kicked in yet. You will lose water after you quit Dbol. Be patient and continue the prop like the good bro's say and all will be fine.

BTW great board i am new here but not to the game.

All that weight you dropped is probably all water weight, the Enth. would take 2-5 weeks from the day you started injecting it to see any results from it. I agree w/ shred you should've been doin them together....now i would keep the prop in there for like 2 more weeks w/ the entat

 

[Ronin_]

yeah you should have ran the ran the test e from the start, or at the least frontloaded it a great deal when you stopped the prop.

As for 2-5 weeks to kick in, well it has a 5-6 day half life so 250mg is going to give you about 25mg test released from the word go, and personally I always feel test e within a few days. Plus it is not as if your body is just starting the steroid process of more RBC etc etc, its just stalled, so you should have got back on track certainly within 5 days or so.

I think it most likely fake. what brand is it, can you post up some pics? would you be able to afford to go send some off for testing so we can all avoid it in future?

 

[cinnabar8521]

Hey Bro I personally think you are lacking in knowage and should stop using steroids until you figure out what in the hell you are doing, the test e should have been started on day one with the prop, the way you are doing it you basiclly are coming off for 3 weeks mid cycle which shows a total lack of knowage on your part, even if you were to have started the test e from the beginning you would still drop some water weight when you stopped the dbal, which if you did any research you would have known, I'm not trying to put you down, alot of people jump in without knowing what they are doing, but you are lucky you didn't end up with some man boobs.

 

[Ronin_]

Hey Bro I personally think you are lacking in knowage and should stop using steroids until you figure out what in the hell you are doing, the test e should have been started on day one with the prop, the way you are doing it you basiclly are coming off for 3 weeks mid cycle which shows a total lack of knowage on your part, even if you were to have started the test e from the beginning you would still drop some water weight when you stopped the dbal, which if you did any research you would have known, I'm not trying to put you down, alot of people jump in without knowing what they are doing, but you are lucky you didn't end up with some man boobs.

well it was an error, but he shouldnt cut the cycle short. he's in now and will be suppressed.

If he frontloads PL properly, it is merely a blip in the cycle, making it less than optimal, but hardly a big thing.

Bro load up on the PL test, 1000mg day 1 then ur usual shots, that will quickly get you back on track.

Make sure you have PCT in order, as by the test e mistake, you might not have that down correctly, so please post up your PCT regime so we can make sure that's OK

 

[ZEUS]

I'm actually very educated about AAS, and I have likely been around this board longer than those who are questioning my knowledge. However, sometimes particular situations arise in which I would like the opinion of someone who has had more experience than me. Cinnabar, you said that I basically took off 3 weeks mid cycle by switching to enanthate. I don't understand how that could be when the half-life of enanthate is 5 days. I should have had test running through my body during that time, and I would have if the stuff I was taking were real. As for the d-bol and water weight...no shit it adds water weight, but in the past(yes, I have done this before) I have never experienced such a loss of weight or strength after I stopped taking it. By that point, the test in my body kept me from losing much. The bottom line is that I had fake gear, because I felt like I had no test in me after I stopped the d-bol. It's been a couple of days now since I took a shot of PL's enanthate(the stuff I know is real), and I already feel like I have more energy.

I obviously should have seen at least a plateau for a period of time if my enanthate were real, because the active test in my body would become lower. However, my body should have still had enough test in it to maintain my gains. Cinnabar, you are foolish to suggest that I could have ended up with tits by switching from prop to enanthate. In the future, do not respond to posts that you can't provide a useful answer to, and certainly don't insult someone regarding their knowledge when yours is lacking as well. I should have specified in my previous post that I was interested only in the opinions of those who are experienced(VETS/MODS) or those who have a medical background.

The purpose of my post, more than anything else, was to find out if this has happened to anyone else before, and if so, I am interested in how they handled it. There are many options, and I was wanting to know what worked for people. Should I take HCG for 10 days just to be safe, or should I just take a small d-bol dosage to act somewhat like a bridge? Or should I simply proceed as normal with enanthate injections? Or should I frontload with enanthate? If there are any people who have had experience with something like this, or who are qualified to address this topic, please help me out. Thanks.

 

[ramboj70]

I'm actually very educated about AAS, and I have likely been around this board longer than those who are questioning my knowledge. However, sometimes particular situations arise in which I would like the opinion of someone who has had more experience than me. Cinnabar, you said that I basically took off 3 weeks mid cycle by switching to enanthate. I don't understand how that could be when the half-life of enanthate is 5 days. I should have had test running through my body during that time, and I would have if the stuff I was taking were real. As for the d-bol and water weight...no shit it adds water weight, but in the past(yes, I have done this before) I have never experienced such a loss of weight or strength after I stopped taking it. By that point, the test in my body kept me from losing much. The bottom line is that I had fake gear, because I felt like I had no test in me after I stopped the d-bol. It's been a couple of days now since I took a shot of PL's enanthate(the stuff I know is real), and I already feel like I have more energy.

I obviously should have seen at least a plateau for a period of time if my enanthate were real, because the active test in my body would become lower. However, my body should have still had enough test in it to maintain my gains. Cinnabar, you are foolish to suggest that I could have ended up with tits by switching from prop to enanthate. In the future, do not respond to posts that you can't provide a useful answer to, and certainly don't insult someone regarding their knowledge when yours is lacking as well. I should have specified in my previous post that I was interested only in the opinions of those who are experienced(VETS/MODS) or those who have a medical background.

The purpose of my post, more than anything else, was to find out if this has happened to anyone else before, and if so, I am interested in how they handled it. There are many options, and I was wanting to know what worked for people. Should I take HCG for 10 days just to be safe, or should I just take a small d-bol dosage to act somewhat like a bridge? Or should I simply proceed as normal with enanthate injections? Or should I frontload with enanthate? If there are any people who have had experience with something like this, or who are qualified to address this topic, please help me out. Thanks.

bro enath should have been started with the prop but all is said and done run the prop for another 3 weeks until the enath kicks in, then drop the prop, enath takes about 2-4 weeks to kick in, depending on size and prior AAS usage, once it kicks in you will know bro, good luck

 

[moralanimal]

The enth has not kicked in yet or it is fake but if you gained 15 pounds in 3 weeks while loosing bf then I would be very happy with that. 15 solid pounds is a good cycle by itself

 

[crobar1]

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Zeus,

Can you get messages or have you turned it off?

I started a cycle a little over 5 weeks ago with d-bol and prop that I know was real. I wanted to use prop for the first few weeks and then use enanthate. Anyways, by week three I was already seeing incredible results. I gained 15lbs, and I had definitely lost body fat. My strength was also going through the roof. After week 3, I switched to some enanthate that I have and continued taking it until now. Despite the fact that I kept using the d-bol, my strength hasn't really improved in the last couple of weeks. I stopped using the d-bol a few days ago, and now I feel very weak and tired. Obviously, I am convinced that the stuff was fake, because I don't feel like I'm on anymore. Instead, I feel like I have no test running through me at all, which would be true if it were fake.

What I want to know is how bad this will fuck me up. I have some legit PL test enanthate on hand that I took a shot of tonight, but how long should it take for my test levels to rise back up if I keep using real test from now on? Should I take like 10mgs of d-bol each day to maintain my test levels until the test kicks in? I'd appreciate any thoughts or advice that anyone has.

Thanks,
ZEUS

 

[test-one]

dont bother with this fool bro! his scammin ass has been called out.
ZUESS-the dbol gave you 15 lbs huh wheres my thank you BITCH!

 

[ZEUS]

dont bother with this fool bro! his scammin ass has been called out.
ZUESS-the dbol gave you 15 lbs huh wheres my thank you BITCH!

Prior to making a post, please check to make sure that you aren't calling out the wrong person. I am not zeuss. I am zeus with one "s". It pisses me off that some dipshit created a username similar to mine, but he is not me. I have been on Meso for a long time. On the old meso board, my username was zeus001.

 

[frank1234]

I was also sold some bunk powder and the stuff never kidked in even after 6 weeks.(TEST Enth). I then got good poder and my sex drive kicked in a week later through the roof. I make my own Tren for this reason..cheap , reliable. I am now starting to make my own Test (Prop) using the estrogen solubizer sold by Univeral Kits and Scienkits. I will report back on any results good or bad (breasts).

 

[trenfactor]

I was also sold some bunk powder and the stuff never kidked in even after 6 weeks.(TEST Enth). I then got good poder and my sex drive kicked in a week later through the roof. I make my own Tren for this reason..cheap , reliable. I am now starting to make my own Test (Prop) using the estrogen solubizer sold by Univeral Kits and Scienkits. I will report back on any results good or bad (breasts).

Real test enanthate in raw material form ought to arrive as either a slightly hardened mass or almost paste.It should not be powder.

That Tren Guy.

 

[Turbo1]

I agree with the tren guy.

 

[test-one]

Prior to making a post, please check to make sure that you aren't calling out the wrong person. I am not zeuss. I am zeus with one "s". It pisses me off that some dipshit created a username similar to mine, but he is not me. I have been on Meso for a long time. On the old meso board, my username was zeus001.

my bad bro i apologize ill read alittle more carefuly before i post.