I have a three for new members I would suggest you read it before its to late.
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OP I AM NOT REFERRING TO YOU, PER SAY!!!
Nothing perturbs me more than noobs prancing onto Meso and the first words out of their mouths are bullshit. Like I've been lurking, cycling, researching, lifting, dieting bla, bla, bla, for years. When I read words along those line I already know chances are I'm being fed a line of nonsense bc such folk rarely need the type of advice being requested.
I sometimes wonder if these newbies actually believe this from of garbage won't come out in the wash eventually, or perhaps they fail to understand "Mods" are NOT a more educated form of replacement for the seasoned pro-bono membership Meso prides itself on.
To that end, while some may not "like" the answers they receive from seasoned Meso members, how can those in search of advice believe it's worth a hoot if it's based on fabricated garbage
. I mean it's an anonymous forum for God's sake and the one who suffers, in an almost exclusive fashion, is the person who diminishes its importance of truthfulness in print!
jim
Nothing perturbs me more than noobs prancing onto Meso and the first words out of their mouths are bullshit. Like I've been lurking, cycling, researching, lifting, dieting bla, bla, bla, for years. When I read words along those line I already know chances are I'm being fed a line of nonsense bc such folk rarely need the type of advice being requested.
I sometimes wonder if these newbies actually believe this from of garbage won't come out in the wash eventually, or perhaps they fail to understand "Mods" are NOT a more educated form of replacement for the seasoned pro-bono membership Meso prides itself on.
To that end, while some may not "like" the answers they receive from seasoned Meso members, how can those in search of advice believe it's worth a hoot if it's based on fabricated garbage
. I mean it's an anonymous forum for God's sake and the one who suffers, in an almost exclusive fashion, is the person who diminishes its importance of truthfulness in print!
jim
For me strength gains kick in at about 5.5 weeks. Libido kicks in at about week 2.5. This is test e. Once again, though. What is the lab name of your gear.
mayweather
New Member
People's opinions are nothing more than opinions. Matter of fact is that their are too many factors and variables to actually get a good indication of what good advice is for person a,since person B maybe that advice wouldn't be the same(calorie intake for instance,metabolism,cortisol levels.) there's simply too many variables. Believe it or not there are teenagers prescribed TRT and nothing beats sharing your personal opinion and making an educated decision based on everyones opinion. With that being said I won't pretend I am an expert on the subject,i just like to eat,lift,and sleep.
Are you really that naive!
You don't need a forum to acquire an opinion, that you can get on any street corner, gym, or bar.
If that's what your looking for on Meso you will be disappointed bc any opinion worth listening to is validated thru a number of means such as; experience, education, legitimate research or all the above.
Moreover to suggest physiologic factors such as BMR can not be generalized bc of individual variation is a classic cop out and why many never become educated from the outset.
The fact is scientific evidence is most useful when applied collectively to groups of people knowing absent specific metabolic defects (which are controlled for within a studies design) the influence of person to person variance is small, and in many instances miniscule.
But what's an opinion worth if those making the comments are controlled by rules, regulations or overt censorship or if those same individuals have a vested interest in swaying the interests of the listener for their own personal or financial benefit.
These confounding factors are what permeates many source boards such as Eroids, PM, TID etc.
Finally almost all teenagers that are prescribed "TRT have a legitimate metabolic or congenital disorder and FEW have any interest in discussing their NEED for lifelong testosterone replacement or to fabricate tales of AAS use or abuse.
The latter are almost invariably immature, uneducated or emotionally disturbed kids who have made one poor choice after another in their life and are now using AAS as another ways to continue down the WRONG PATH!
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mayweather
New Member
Not naive just trying to say in a nice way that it's some bullshit that you derail my thread with these essays no one asked from you.Make sure you remember to take your arimadex.
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Well that's just to damn bad bc it's not "YOUR THREAD" but every Meso members privilege to post where they chose.
It's one of the pros of Meso being an uncensored forum.
You don't like it, try a thread declaration on TID or Eroids and see where that gets ya, lol!
Well that's just to damn bad bc it's not "YOUR THREAD" but every Meso members privilege to post where they chose.
It's one of the pros of Meso being an uncensored forum.
You don't like it, try a thread declaration on TID or Eroids and see where that gets ya, lol!
DickySmalls
Member
That's the indicator for me, after a couple of weeks when I end up jerking off 5-8 times a day. It's terrible.
In for lab name too
achilles87
New Member
I like how all these new guys come here asking simple questions. You answer them and guess what they get their feelings hurt. This is happening more and more here.
Op who knows what you're doing, first it was a gram now it's 750mg. You say you know things, well you should know that a lot of ugl test e has had bad pip this year. Also you would absolutely know that you won't be getting jack shit in a week... come one man that right there let us know how new you are.
Also you need to have a little more respect considering people are helping you out even tho you could do a simple search and find out the info.
You think your stuff is fake stop taking it, you want to find out if it's real run it long enough to get bloods. We can't tell you if its real or not, you haven't even gave us a lab name or if it's just local ugl gear.
I'm not trying to be that guy, but come on man. Some guys know when someone is not what they say they are just by reading the post. It is obvious you haven't done a lot of research.
Op who knows what you're doing, first it was a gram now it's 750mg. You say you know things, well you should know that a lot of ugl test e has had bad pip this year. Also you would absolutely know that you won't be getting jack shit in a week... come one man that right there let us know how new you are.
Also you need to have a little more respect considering people are helping you out even tho you could do a simple search and find out the info.
You think your stuff is fake stop taking it, you want to find out if it's real run it long enough to get bloods. We can't tell you if its real or not, you haven't even gave us a lab name or if it's just local ugl gear.
I'm not trying to be that guy, but come on man. Some guys know when someone is not what they say they are just by reading the post. It is obvious you haven't done a lot of research.
OBVIOUSLY I WAS WRONG, as the OP is more of the same, begin a newbie thread by posting a bunch of BS as a shortcut to establishing credibility.
The latter takes time thru ACTIVE participation over the long haul.
It's ironic how often this occurs on Meso of late, which compels me to believe it's WORKED on other forums to some extent.
The difference, the disrespect many of these noobs show for Mesos more experienced BB/lifters could be cause for BANISHMENT in short order elsewhere.
Unfortunately however, the latter has likely enabled Meso to be a refuge for and of rejects to some degree
Oh the price we pay for free speech is a hefty one, but worth it just the same, IMO.
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DickySmalls
Member
Instant gratification in this culture of impatience.
Everybody wants to be big but nobody wants to invest the hundreds of hours worth of research. - DickySmalls
I've said this place is like a double-edged sword before. People sign up here and ask for help/sources and they're met with hostility. Compare that to source forums where they sign up and are met with less hostility (even friendliness) because said forums often push their products (e.g. Evolutionary with N2BM and SARMS1) and more members gives them greater potential for sales. It sucks, it really does. Nobody wants to be scammed and nobody wants to see someone lose their hard earned money to a scumbag but that's avoidable through research as achilles87 stated.
@OP:
youtube.com/watch?v=2n6Jf-O_X0I&feature=youtu.be&t=148
[QUOTE="DickySmalls, post: 1502932, member: 79331"
]Instant gratification in this culture of impatience.
People sign up here and ask for help/sources and they're met with hostility.
148[/QUOTE]
I suppose you're referring to a PERCEIVED hostility on behalf of those noobs who post here bc they;
- "need" to be spoon fed
- Fail to familiarize themselves with Meso's home page, forums and sub-forums
- expect active members to recite information which already exists in triplicate
- cite bro-science "studies" that can't be substantiated
- believe some Meso librarian is awaiting their beckoning call, for evidence
- want advice wo "all the (relevant baseline) questions"
- feel dejected once their ruse riddled post/thread is exposed
- become dispondent having discovered Meso is NOT a source board
- are forced to confront the reality (again) AAS are NOT a remedy for emotional disorders
ETC, ETC, ETC
]Instant gratification in this culture of impatience.
People sign up here and ask for help/sources and they're met with hostility.
148[/QUOTE]
I suppose you're referring to a PERCEIVED hostility on behalf of those noobs who post here bc they;
- "need" to be spoon fed
- Fail to familiarize themselves with Meso's home page, forums and sub-forums
- expect active members to recite information which already exists in triplicate
- cite bro-science "studies" that can't be substantiated
- believe some Meso librarian is awaiting their beckoning call, for evidence
- want advice wo "all the (relevant baseline) questions"
- feel dejected once their ruse riddled post/thread is exposed
- become dispondent having discovered Meso is NOT a source board
- are forced to confront the reality (again) AAS are NOT a remedy for emotional disorders
ETC, ETC, ETC
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DickySmalls
Member
Yup.
On the bro-science stuff, some bro-science is so....... I'm not sure the word or phrase but almost like it's taken as common knowledge/fact but is actually incorrect (like the "shaving hair causes it to grow back thicker" one). I thought for a long time that running tren/deca meant that one would need Caber or Prami to control prolactin (as that's written on almost every forum). The only place I've read that's stated there aren't any studies which suggest that either of them have any effect on prolactin levels is here (I'm pretty sure you were the one who wrote the post).
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Thanks but I take credit for little being surrounded by the likes of Bill Roberts, Millard and Doc Scally
However I'm particularly fond of the estrogen rebound, and life saving (I jest) prophylactic liver therapies.
Nevertheless, I don't believe it's a coincidence many of the PED sites that continue to propagate bro lore, are also SELLING the very meds/supplements in question
Thanks but I take credit for little being surrounded by the likes of Bill Roberts, Millard and Doc Scally
However I'm particularly fond of the estrogen rebound, and life saving (I jest) prophylactic liver therapies.
Nevertheless, I don't believe it's a coincidence many of the PED sites that continue to propagate bro lore, are also SELLING the very meds/supplements in question
And issues of this nature speak volumes about where and what
many noobs have used as resources for the "research" they have been conducting.
So they often srrive on Meso bright eyed and bushy tailed ready and willing to enlighten Meso members about what they just learned and now need to parrot.
Well sorry chum much of what you just learned is "bro-science", wha, wha, wha, that', that, that's just NOT true bc I've been RESEARCHING this stuff ......... now we have a despondent and potentially hostile noob
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mayweather
New Member
so caber on tren is bro science. Just lol.
achilles87
New Member
Do you want to know how many times I have used caber on really high mg tren cycles?
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