Farxiga vs mounjaro for diabetics

[knights86]

So I've been on farxiga for the past 2 years and so far my diabetes has been managed. Did bloodwork about 2 weeks ago and my a1c was 6.5 and fasting glucose was 77. My Dr prescribed mounjaro, but insurance declined it and kept my on farxiga but I wouldn't mind buy some tirzeptide from a seller and running 2.5mg every week for a few months before I do blood work. I guess one of the reasons Ive been thinking about switching is because I just started GH to aid in recovery from surgery I just had and I know that GH can have some impacts on blood sugars and I'm already a type 2 diabetic.

I just had shoulder surgery yesterday and this is what I'm currently taking.

200mg cyp (try for years now)
-Just started these yesterday
500mcg bpc
500mcg tb
GH 2iu ( starting that today)
Nandrolone 100mg ew

In about 4 to 5 weeks, once I'm healed from surgery and can start the gym, I'm going to up my test to 300 and add 200mg primo and leave the Deca at 100mg to help recover the muscle I will have lost during my downtime from surgery.

 

[knights86]

Also didn't know if this was the right section to ask this question. I'm not going to use tirzeptide for weight loss and will only use it to assist as diabetic drug.

 

[youwhat?]

I am not qualified to answer your question here, but I will say…I’d at least double if not triple your dose of bpc and tb. As much as you can afford really. That’s when I get benefits from it.

 

[knights86]

I am not qualified to answer your question here, but I will say…I’d at least double if not triple your dose of bpc and tb. As much as you can afford really. That’s when I get benefits from it.

You saying I should use 1.5mg bpc ed as well as tb? I'm using 500mcg bpc ed and 500 tb ed. I know the tb should be 2.5mg twice a week, but right now I'm just doing the 500mcg each ed. I got 60mg bpc on hand and 30mg tb on hand. Can always order more. I was just going to use tb and box for roughly 8 weeks or whenever I feel healed from this surgery I had yesterday.

 

[rockyraccoon]

I give my old man tirzepatide for his type 2 diabetes. He doses it at 2.5mg/week and his a1c is back in normal range. I'll ask him what his pre-tirz levels were and where they're at now.

 

[knights86]

I give my old man tirzepatide for his type 2 diabetes. He doses it at 2.5mg/week and his a1c is back in normal range. I'll ask him what his pre-tirz levels were and where they're at now.

Thanks man. I appreciate it.

 

[Excel.exe]

I give my old man tirzepatide for his type 2 diabetes. He doses it at 2.5mg/week and his a1c is back in normal range. I'll ask him what his pre-tirz levels were and where they're at now.

How is his cholesterol levels?

 

[knights86]

How is his cholesterol levels?

Does mounjaro increase cholesterol? Never heard that.

 

[Excel.exe]

It is supposed to decrease the cholesterol levels. I am interested in knowing what the low dose will do the cholesterol levels in older people.

 

[youwhat?]

You saying I should use 1.5mg bpc ed as well as tb? I'm using 500mcg bpc ed and 500 tb ed. I know the tb should be 2.5mg twice a week, but right now I'm just doing the 500mcg each ed. I got 60mg bpc on hand and 30mg tb on hand. Can always order more. I was just going to use tb and box for roughly 8 weeks or whenever I feel healed from this surgery I had yesterday.

Yes that is what I’m saying. 500mcg for me did absolutely nothing. Wasn’t until I got up there in dose did I notice any relief.

 

[knights86]

Yes that is what I’m saying. 500mcg for me did absolutely nothing. Wasn’t until I got up there in dose did I notice any relief.

Okay. Surprisingly, my shoulder doesn't feel that bad. Nothing like it felt a year ago. It's been 2 days and I'm actually moving it. Feels more like my skin is burning where I can feel the incisions. I don't really have any stabbing pain like I thought I would. I am on oxys right now, which I actually don't like, but all in all, I feel pretty good with. I have only been on bpc and tb for 2 days and GH for 1 day so far.

 

[youwhat?]

Okay. Surprisingly, my shoulder doesn't feel that bad. Nothing like it felt a year ago. It's been 2 days and I'm actually moving it. Feels more like my skin is burning where I can feel the incisions. I don't really have any stabbing pain like I thought I would. I am on oxys right now, which I actually don't like, but all in all, I feel pretty good with. I have only been on bpc and tb for 2 days and GH for 1 day so far.

Welllllll you’re on oxy so of course you’re not feeling stabbing pain lol

 

[knights86]

Welllllll you’re on oxy so of course you’re not feeling stabbing pain lol

Truth lol

 

[AlexDavis43]

So I've been on farxiga for the past 2 years and so far my diabetes has been managed. Did bloodwork about 2 weeks ago and my a1c was 6.5 and fasting glucose was 77. My Dr prescribed mounjaro, but insurance declined it and kept my on farxiga but I wouldn't mind buy some tirzeptide from a seller and running 2.5mg every week for a few months before I do blood work. I guess one of the reasons Ive been thinking about switching is because I just started GH to aid in recovery from surgery I just had and I know that GH can have some impacts on blood sugars and I'm already a type 2 diabetic.

I just had shoulder surgery yesterday and this is what I'm currently taking.

200mg cyp (try for years now)
-Just started these yesterday
500mcg bpc
500mcg tb
GH 2iu ( starting that today)
Nandrolone 100mg ew

In about 4 to 5 weeks, once I'm healed from surgery and can start the gym, I'm going to up my test to 300 and add 200mg primo and leave the Deca at 100mg to help recover the muscle I will have lost during my downtime from surgery.

Welcome to Meso. Check out the New Member Introduction section.

And please get acquainted with the search bar. Very helpful for things like this.

 

[knights86]

Welcome to Meso. Check out the New Member Introduction section.

And please get acquainted with the search bar. Very helpful for things like this.

Appreciate it. I was trying to search for any info on farxiga and couldn't find anything. Tons of info on tirzeptide, but wanted to see if anyone else has run both.

 

[xrayphoton13]

If the farxiga is only for type 2 diabetes and not heart failure, definitely tirzepatide is the better option. outside of controlling blood sugar and bringing down a1c, it reduces cardiac events, reduces hunger, causes some weight loss, can cause you to lose interest in addictions such as alcohol, tobacco, gambling, etc. it's a fantastic drug and will do much more for your health than farxiga. If tirzepatide pricing is the problem, look at ozempic and see if you can get insurance to approve it. It does most of the things tirzepatide does but with less weight loss. If you are going UGL it's also cheaper than tirzepatide. I would start at 0.5mg semaglutide though. The 0.25mg dose is just too little to start with. Even my doc started me at 0.5mg ozempic

 

[knights86]

If the farxiga is only for type 2 diabetes and not heart failure, definitely tirzepatide is the better option. outside of controlling blood sugar and bringing down a1c, it reduces cardiac events, reduces hunger, causes some weight loss, can cause you to lose interest in addictions such as alcohol, tobacco, gambling, etc. it's a fantastic drug and will do much more for your health than farxiga. If tirzepatide pricing is the problem, look at ozempic and see if you can get insurance to approve it. It does most of the things tirzepatide does but with less weight loss. If you are going UGL it's also cheaper than tirzepatide. I would start at 0.5mg semaglutide though. The 0.25mg dose is just too little to start with. Even my doc started me at 0.5mg ozempic

The farxiga is strictly for being type 2. Insurance would cover ozempic, but my Dr didn't want to put me on that because I don't need to lose weight. I've been thinking about getting some UGL tirzeptide and running 2.5mg once a week. I go see my Dr today and will talk about it.

I'm only curious about switching from farxiga to tirzeptide because I started some GH for healing from a surgery I just had and read where GH can impact blood sugars. Farxiga all around has been a solid diabetic med for me and has done a great job at managing me.

 

[xrayphoton13]

The farxiga is strictly for being type 2. Insurance would cover ozempic, but my Dr didn't want to put me on that because I don't need to lose weight. I've been thinking about getting some UGL tirzeptide and running 2.5mg once a week. I go see my Dr today and will talk about it.

I'm only curious about switching from farxiga to tirzeptide because I started some GH for healing from a surgery I just had and read where GH can impact blood sugars. Farxiga all around has been a solid diabetic med for me and has done a great job at managing me.

Makes zero sense that your doctor would prescribe Mounjaro but not ozempic due to weight loss because Mounjaro causes greater weight loss than ozempic.
As far as GH is concerned, take it all at night before bed at least one or two hours after a meal. You will see minimal impact to blood sugar

 

[knights86]

Makes zero sense that your doctor would prescribe Mounjaro but not ozempic due to weight loss because Mounjaro causes greater weight loss than ozempic.
As far as GH is concerned, take it all at night before bed at least one or two hours after a meal. You will see minimal impact to blood sugar

She prescribed both and both has to get prior authorization. Ozempic was granted, mounjaro was declined. She said to just stay on the farxiga because ozempic could cause too much weight loss. She said mounjaro did impact weight, but not as bad as ozempic.

 

[xrayphoton13]

She prescribed both and both has to get prior authorization. Ozempic was granted, mounjaro was declined. She said to just stay on the farxiga because ozempic could cause too much weight loss. She said mounjaro did impact weight, but not as bad as ozempic.

That's backwards. Mounjaro loses more weight. That's why most people start on ozempic and when weight loss stalls they switch to Mounjaro. You need to either educate her and advocate for yourself so you can get that ozempic filled or find a doctor more educated on glp-1s that will. Although yes you can get ugl from sources on this board, I would take ozempic any day over UGL semaglutide just bc I will know exactly what I'm getting every time. Now if you only want tirzepatide then yes you have to go UGL or compounding pharmacy which your provider could do if you had her send an Rx to a good compounding pharmacy. That's what I was doing with tirzepatide when my Mounjaro coupon expired. Then I found ugl and it was cheaper so I went that route. You've got options