MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Fat Loss Pills??
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CyniQ
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JBLU24 said:
Most of that shit is synephrine from bitter orange. It's shit if you ask me. Same as the cortisol blockers and all that other bullshit. If it worked, it would be illegal.
Grizzly
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Don't know about those things. I just keep buying ephedrine which is not illegal and, yet, actually better than ephedra.
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CyniQ
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Grizzly said:
LOL. Like mini-thins?? I didn't know you could still buy that stuff. Used to keep me up all night when I was in HS.
They most certainly are available. I can pick up ephedrine HCl at my local gas station.CyniQ said:
There is nothing more than hype, rumor and guessing in that entire thread. I would absolutely LOVE to see a safe product that can legitimately raise metabolism by 15-30%, I just dont think its going to happen. Clen+t3 increases metabolism about 8-10%, ECA about 3%, and dnp is ~10% per 100mg (linearly). That thread sounds exactly like what used to happen, and probably still does, at the T-mag forum. They announce a product that is going to accomplish X, Y, and Z. Everyone raves about it without even knowing an ounce of information. People try it, T-mag only lets the positive responses post on the board, and the majority of everyone that tried it thinks it sucks. Its pretty standard fare in the supplement industry and I dont see this as being any different.Halvie said:
CyniQ
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Bob Smith said:
Thank you. I, for one, am sick of it too. Most of the supp's just increase my shits by 15-30%
I'm currently tryin out rx metabolean max by rxresearchgroup.com..........I'm not 100% positive, but I think they're affiliated with hmgear/alri industries. I figured well, I've wasted money trying to find effective fat burners b/f, if it doens't work, then it wouldn't be the first time......(Lipo 6, Stim. Free Xendarine, Stacker 2, etc. etc.) Unfortunately for me I can't even think about trying to go the stimulant route,.......my body is extremely sensitive to stimulants,......very bad reactions with them..........it's like I'm a sick,(frequent vommiting), crack head on them,.......(parnoid, panicy, profuse sweat, etc).
So far its way to soon to tell if the product is doing anything,(unless this happens to be the fat burner version of M1t, lol)......... it's only my third day on metablolean. I'll let you guys know after a month to six weeks how it worked as a fat burner. I have noticed certain positive changes the past three days howerver,.... not sure if it's a placebo effect or not. I've noticed an increase in concentration, less sugar cravings, and it also seems to have an affect on satiety w/ meals...........I get fuller a little bit quicker than I was previous to taking it.
However, these changes while noticeable to me, aren't anything extremely dramtic. It's also very important to note, that I've had some some success w/ the placebo effect b/f..........not often, but there was two different occasions in the past where I had taken two different products that I came too find out years later, were basically bunk,(one was being sued for advertising it's flavored sugar water as creatine serum)........and I actually came away with very good strength gains.
So far its way to soon to tell if the product is doing anything,(unless this happens to be the fat burner version of M1t, lol)......... it's only my third day on metablolean. I'll let you guys know after a month to six weeks how it worked as a fat burner. I have noticed certain positive changes the past three days howerver,.... not sure if it's a placebo effect or not. I've noticed an increase in concentration, less sugar cravings, and it also seems to have an affect on satiety w/ meals...........I get fuller a little bit quicker than I was previous to taking it.
However, these changes while noticeable to me, aren't anything extremely dramtic. It's also very important to note, that I've had some some success w/ the placebo effect b/f..........not often, but there was two different occasions in the past where I had taken two different products that I came too find out years later, were basically bunk,(one was being sued for advertising it's flavored sugar water as creatine serum)........and I actually came away with very good strength gains.
CyniQ
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smeyers said:
I remember that one. The Muscle Marketing serum right? Should've known with a name like muscle MARKETING. I bought some too. If I can't figure out how it's working I don't use it. The whole absorption under the tongue thing still kinda stumps me.
Absorption levels are very high sublingually (under the tongue), but the creatine serum is a shitty product no matter how you take it. Its 100% garbage and there is absolutely nothing redeeming about a company that knowingly sells a junk product for $30.
bigslick
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JBLU24 said:
Yup that was it, the muscle marketing,......... I was young and dumb,........but I was really believing it, they lived up to their namesake in my case. I had to laugh though, thinking about how my good strength gains came from what had to be placebo.......b/c I read in muscle media, (their industry watchdog section), a year after I used it that they were getting sued big time b/c none of there radomly tested products had even a trace of creatine in them.........they tested as just red sugar water. Funny thing is, a year after reading this, I was in vitamin world to pick up some melatonin and there it was, still on the selves.
The other product that I got even better gains from, which I'm 99.999% certain was another placebo effect as well (second time I took it, no gains what so ever), was hyper growth formula by Larry Scott's comapny biophase. I was even younger when I took that,(senoir in high school), and the co. uses the line about how it has trace amounts of IGF-1 and IGF-2 and how "it takes just a trace of these things to give the same punch as steroids." I knew a little about IGF-1 @ the time, pro's and con's, but that was about it.........nothing about the advertising ploy of colostrum.
Funny thing is, I was expecting too see colostrum in the ingrediants,(by the way they advertiesed it),..... or mentioned somewhere,......or maybe even caesin...........but nope...........whey protein, and the worst tasting I've probably ever had.
Sorry to get off topic and be so lengthy,...............but to get get back on track, I was curious as to what everyone's opinion would be concerning clenbuterol in comparison to ephedra............pro's and con's.
I myself would scap the fat buring supps, and stock up on ephedra as we speak, but the side effects I had w/ ephedra makes it impossible for me to do this.
The other product that I got even better gains from, which I'm 99.999% certain was another placebo effect as well (second time I took it, no gains what so ever), was hyper growth formula by Larry Scott's comapny biophase. I was even younger when I took that,(senoir in high school), and the co. uses the line about how it has trace amounts of IGF-1 and IGF-2 and how "it takes just a trace of these things to give the same punch as steroids." I knew a little about IGF-1 @ the time, pro's and con's, but that was about it.........nothing about the advertising ploy of colostrum.
Funny thing is, I was expecting too see colostrum in the ingrediants,(by the way they advertiesed it),..... or mentioned somewhere,......or maybe even caesin...........but nope...........whey protein, and the worst tasting I've probably ever had.
Sorry to get off topic and be so lengthy,...............but to get get back on track, I was curious as to what everyone's opinion would be concerning clenbuterol in comparison to ephedra............pro's and con's.
I myself would scap the fat buring supps, and stock up on ephedra as we speak, but the side effects I had w/ ephedra makes it impossible for me to do this.
CyniQ
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Bob Smith said:
Yeah, like with nitroglyc. for stopping heart attacks. I understand that. But when you put something in your mouth and hold it for a little while (no flames, pervs). Then spit it out. That's called mouthwash right? I've never gotten drunk from the alcohol in my Listerine...
novicebb
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JBLU24 said:
Well I hear that you can still get ECA online if you just do a search. I don't know if this is true but I have heard that you can still find Xenadrine, Lip06 and others
