I agree clen or ECA I like ECA +1 bynadryl at bed time because it does not make my teeth feel like they are vibrating. It tends to work for as long as I use it. It keeps me from feeling shity when I am on PCT. The anti-catbolic nature helps too but just giving me the energey to hit the weights and to leave the junk food alone is great all by itself. Plus it teach's the body to burn more fat for fuel!
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