Feel like I am maybe eating to much

[TheEternalBlaDe]

Currently on bulking cycle 10weeks in
Cyp 400w
Deca 300w
Dbol 40mg d(started a few days ago for 5w)

Usual day
Meal 1
2 scoops protein + 2/3 cup oats with 20g pb
Meal 2
5 eggs + 2/3 cups rice + 250g Quark(like Greek yogurt) with 20g walnuts + 20g raisins
Meal 3
400g turkey + 2/3 cup rice
Meal 4
400g steak + 2/3 cup rice
Weight: 86kilo - ~190pnds
169cm
13% bf

End of dec (before starting deca):
79kilo
8%bf

I have gained size all over and strength but wonder if I should stick to this through the next several weeks of my total cycle or cut carbs and protein intake because it's overkill. Thanks!

 

[Genghis K.]

Cut protein? Blasphemy!

 

[ickyrica]

You're only getting 4 meals in daily. One of which is a shake. Eat more man.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Currently on bulking cycle 10weeks in
Cyp 400w
Deca 300w
Dbol 40mg d(started a few days ago for 5w)

Usual day
Meal 1
2 scoops protein + 2/3 cup oats with 20g pb
Meal 2
5 eggs + 2/3 cups rice + 250g Quark(like Greek yogurt) with 20g walnuts + 20g raisins
Meal 3
400g turkey + 2/3 cup rice
Meal 4
400g steak + 2/3 cup rice
Weight: 86kilo - ~190pnds
169cm
13% bf

End of dec (before starting deca):
79kilo
8%bf

I have gained size all over and strength but wonder if I should stick to this through the next several weeks of my total cycle or cut carbs and protein intake because it's overkill. Thanks!

If you're gaining lean weight and are pleased up to this point, don't try to fix what isn't broken. Worry about changing things up when progress comes to a screeching halt.

 

[Eman]

The answer to this question is no. The answer to this question is always no.

No. No. No.

 

[ickyrica]

Maybe less rice, if less of anything. But you did say

Currently on bulking cycle

I am a firm believer in eating about as much as I can physically handle when bulking, but it's a personal choice.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

I’ve never seen someone’s diet in this endeavor and been able to say “you’re eating too much.”

You should be adding cals every few weeks, at a faster rate if you’re not seeing fat gain. At 8% bf you’ve got so much headroom before your even remotely not-lean.

 

[TheEternalBlaDe]

Right now im at 13% although I dont really think BF calipers are ever right, it seemed like a huge jump from 8% to 13%. I think its cause now I am starting to retain a lot of water which throws it off. Deca increased my appetite "biggly"(had to throw in a joke), but I am the type of person that is always naturally really skinny and have a hard time eating making cutting easier than bulking by far.

Current diet feels over eating in one sitting and stale, so I thought last night and came up what I think distributes the protein better, drops the carbs a bit and changes things up, what do you think?:

Meal 1 - 9
2 scoops protein + 1/2 cup oats
Meal 2 - 12
5 eggs + 1/2 cups rice + 15g olive oil uncooked
Meal 3 - 15
200g turkey + 1/2 cup rice + 15g olive oil uncooked
Meal 4 - 18
375g quark w/ 20g walnuts + 20g raisins
Meal 5 - 21
200g steak + 1/2 cup rice + 15g olive oil uncooked
Meal 6 - 23
2 Scoops protein + 20g pb

 

[LeoTC]

Eat more.

 

[ickyrica]

Right now im at 13% although I dont really think BF calipers are ever right, it seemed like a huge jump from 8% to 13%. I think its cause now I am starting to retain a lot of water which throws it off. Deca increased my appetite "biggly"(had to throw in a joke), but I am the type of person that is always naturally really skinny and have a hard time eating making cutting easier than bulking by far.

Current diet feels over eating in one sitting and stale, so I thought last night and came up what I think distributes the protein better, drops the carbs a bit and changes things up, what do you think?:

Meal 1 - 9
2 scoops protein + 1/2 cup oats
Meal 2 - 12
5 eggs + 1/2 cups rice + 15g olive oil uncooked
Meal 3 - 15
200g turkey + 1/2 cup rice + 15g olive oil uncooked
Meal 4 - 18
375g quark w/ 20g walnuts + 20g raisins
Meal 5 - 21
200g steak + 1/2 cup rice + 15g olive oil uncooked
Meal 6 - 23
2 Scoops protein + 20g pb

It's better for sure. I still say your rice intake is high for your size but you do say that you stay more lean naturally so if it works without adding too much fat, stick with it. I'm 250# and eat carbs selectively, probably half of what you eat.

 

[TheEternalBlaDe]

It's better for sure. I still say your rice intake is high for your size but you do say that you stay more lean naturally so if it works without adding too much fat, stick with it. I'm 250# and eat carbs selectively, probably half of what you eat.

When I wrote this up I was gonna cut it to 1/3 cup of rice from 2/3. Then I back tracked worrying its to big of a drop so i put a 1/2. I always prefer less carbs I feel better, but considering I am on deca looking to gain lean size, not sure, this part i def need advice

 

[ickyrica]

When I wrote this up I was gonna cut it to 1/3 cup of rice from 2/3. Then I back tracked worrying its to big of a drop so i put a 1/2. I always prefer less carbs I feel better, but considering I am on deca looking to gain lean size, not sure, this part i def need advice

I look at it like this, carbs are fuel. I eat a slow digesting carb first thing in the morning and fast carbs before and after I work out. That's about it.

Again, it's a personal preference for me and where I am at. I'd rather eat more protein and fats in place of carbs. Play around with it, you'll find a sweet spot. You'll also find that sweet spot changes as you grow and age.

 

[Holidaypay]

Add some eggs bro

 

[CJames]

Drop the whey and eat more food, you are bulking.. So don't care much about fat gain if you don't turn into a sumo wrestler. Eat four eggs in the morning instead of whey.

 

[CJames]

And fuck raisins

 

[GdaddyGains]

Bulking should be the fun part.....I always go back to this statement....

EAT ENOUGH TO BUILD MUSCLE!!!!!

At some point you get diminished returns as you keep increasing food and will just put on more fat. I think you can only build so much muscle in a given time. It’s up to you to find that sweet spot where you are optimally eating enough to build muscle.

This will allow you to bulk longer and not put on fat so fast.

Eat foods that make you feel good, digest well, and increase performance in the gym. Give you good energy! Good luck! Listen to your body!

 

[TheEternalBlaDe]

Bulking should be the fun part.....I always go back to this statement....

EAT ENOUGH TO BUILD MUSCLE!!!!!

At some point you get diminished returns as you keep increasing food and will just put on more fat. I think you can only build so much muscle in a given time. It’s up to you to find that sweet spot where you are optimally eating enough to build muscle.

This will allow you to bulk longer and not put on fat so fast.

Eat foods that make you feel good, digest well, and increase performance in the gym. Give you good energy! Good luck! Listen to your body!

thanks bro, looks like you know your shit since I put this post I drastically changed up everything with my diet. Competition prep time, I went back to having a data sheet that has everything macro'd out. It is way to difficult to actually make gains when bulking or otherwise when you just keep eating fats, carbs, protein and assume you are getting anything but layers of fat. With my body type this does not work. Totally like this statement you wrote "Eat foods that make you feel good, digest well, and increase performance in the gym". Since this post I was on a test period of a few weeks of keto, always hungry losing strength feel like shit,looking flat. I reversed it to a 50protein/15fat/35carb split with a top out at 3000 calories per day and it made a huge difference. I actually feel great again, tons of energy, fuller, more vascular and so on. I dont think carbs are always everyones enemy, especially a body builder training hard and consistent, I just cant see how keto makes sense(at least for me). (current cyp 400, tren e 200 per week) - my pic is outdated

 

[Demondosage]

I hear guys talking abt this all the time, they want to do everything in one cycle. Pick a course and stick to it, you'll be much further along for it

 

[cfreetenor]

How many grams of fat are you eating? Maybe lower that and favor carbs more. Perhaps a leaner cut of steak, add more egg whites in place of a couple of the eggs + toast.. My body treats caloric surplus very differently depending on the carb/fat ratio.

 

[Dr JIM]

When I wrote this up I was gonna cut it to 1/3 cup of rice from 2/3. Then I back tracked worrying its to big of a drop so i put a 1/2. I always prefer less carbs I feel better, but considering I am on deca looking to gain lean size, not sure, this part i def need advice

Since almost all estimates of TBF are UNDERESTIMATES, I’v never thought it wise to hurry weight gain, esp during a cycle, bc in spite of all the PED hoopla anabolism TAKES TIME.

The slower the better bc in doing so
fluid shifts, that are a part of any cycle, can be best approximated with bedside measurements such as calipers in the POST CYCLE interval.

Besides chances are one of these days you’ll want to lose rather than gain weight.



Jim