female cycles

[Sampei]

0,25ml is too much.

Will rxplain later

 

[Iron Vett]

Old thread,but couldnt find many recent ones related to women using test,rather hrt or for muscle. Pellets are great but the cost is 20X t cyp. Trt docs are using T levels approaching 300 with pellets in many women that are years out from menopause. Most have very few sides. Using t cyp at 200 per ml,and the 10x t factor most get. wouldnt .25 ml put most females around 250? Even a sustained 330 for the wife for many months,their has been very few sides with pellets other than swelling downstairs,nobody is gonna be upset about that! They want them to take good amount of dim to keep E lower,but im not really sure that does much. They say the bio identical T pellets aromatase less than t cyp,again im not sure thats not just more sales jargon. Id like to hear from anyone that moved from pellets to t cyp or prop or anything similar and had bloods done for E. Her E now is within range at T 330. Aggression is a bit higher in tense situations,but so is libido,more than worth it trade off for most people.

If you are basing this on the 10 times rule, .25cc will be too much and that will bring her test levels to 500 since the test is 200 mg/mL. You would need to use .125cc which would be 25 mg of test times 10 should be a level of 250 at peak concentration. Please watch her for sides

Edit: only testing will confirm this. The 10 times rule has been shown to be ineffective many times.

 

[suncom3]

im talking in theory,she is using pellets for the next 3 months. I figured the 10x rule is pretty general,I was using .75 cc and was at 965 after 3 weeks. .25 would be 500? Was thinking .15 wouldnt get her to current 300.

 

[Iron Vett]

im talking in theory,she is using pellets for the next 3 months. I figured the 10x rule is pretty general,I was using .75 cc and was at 965 after 3 weeks. .25 would be 500? Was thinking .15 wouldnt get her to current 300.

Everyone metabolizes hormones differently. She will have to get her own blood tests in order to know her levels at certain doses. Just start her off low and then work up to the desired level.

My wife has actually been researching low dose test for hrt as well. There really isn't a lot of guidance out there.

 

[Sampei]

Pellets have only for a short time thst peak then for few months she lingers at a much lower peak. With injection if you keep giving her 0,25ml each week she will be most of the time at 300+ very bad idea.

My girl is using 15mg every week and it's working great at the moment. Just dont be scared of that clit...

 

[suncom3]

Everyone metabolizes hormones differently. She will have to get her own blood tests in order to know her levels at certain doses. Just start her off low and then work up to the desired level.

My wife has actually been researching low dose test for hrt as well. There really isn't a lot of guidance out there.

If she is over 40 man get her to make the jump,its unreal how much diff it makes in most women,power strength and libido of 20 yrs prior. putting hgh in the mix next,hoping to stay healthy and strong late into life

 

[suncom3]

Pellets have only for a short time thst peak then for few months she lingers at a much lower peak. With injection if you keep giving her 0,25ml each week she will be most of the time at 300+ very bad idea.

My girl is using 15mg every week and it's working great at the moment. Just dont be scared of that clit...

With tests we have done,she seems to be holding 300 ish for at least 2 months,its soft on the first 3 weeks and last 3 weeks,if running 3.5 month pellet insertions. They say it works 4 to 6 months,but any woman training a hr a day isnt gonna benefit much from a time frame that long.They are activity dependent. So you think if she maintained 300 everyday that she would start to develop more sides. On first cycle she did have a bit of thickening of a few hairs that where already in unwanted places,but waxed and no sign of them coming back,no voice issue,or menstrual changes,other than bit more tired in pms. bit more aggressive and good changes on downstairs. More energy,more strength,more muscle in areas she had zero before,talking skin over bone,crazy more libido Way more happy and easy to please.lotta up side here. Id like to know more about the dosage of pellets and their comparison to test cyp,the likelihood of virilizing and aromatasing of both and what sides would develop if 300 was sustained on a even delivery method vs the big curve of pellets. The last yr has been great for her on the 300 pellet curve,E has stayed within range.Occasionally she will take progesterone in small amounts for better sleep. She takes .50 grain of t3 and seems to keep thyroid function at a better level as well.Maybe the dim she takes helps with the E or possibly her body is just functioning much better at this level of T and maintains it naturally.

.15 seems like a very small amount of t cyp.Where is this keeping her T? Is there any resource or study you are basing that on? These hrt docs dont like to talk much outside their product lines,They know if all their patients knew all the facts on cost vs performance they would lose alot to injections imho. Instead they tell you the pellets aromatase far less,and give you a much more even does of hormone than injections. Maybe if comparing to injections every 2 or 3 weeks,but no way in comparison to every week,with t cyp having a 8 day half life.

 

[Iron Vett]

If she is over 40 man get her to make the jump,its unreal how much diff it makes in most women,power strength and libido of 20 yrs prior. putting hgh in the mix next,hoping to stay healthy and strong late into life

She 47 and already cycles anavar and loves it. She really gets upset when it's time to get off. If she decides to try it it will be at no more than 15mg a week to start.

 

[Iron Vett]

With tests we have done,she seems to be holding 300 ish for at least 2 months,its soft on the first 3 weeks and last 3 weeks,if running 3.5 month pellet insertions. They say it works 4 to 6 months,but any woman training a hr a day isnt gonna benefit much from a time frame that long.They are activity dependent. So you think if she maintained 300 everyday that she would start to develop more sides. On first cycle she did have a bit of thickening of a few hairs that where already in unwanted places,but waxed and no sign of them coming back,no voice issue,or menstrual changes,other than bit more tired in pms. bit more aggressive and good changes on downstairs. More energy,more strength,more muscle in areas she had zero before,talking skin over bone,crazy more libido Way more happy and easy to please.lotta up side here. Id like to know more about the dosage of pellets and their comparison to test cyp,the likelihood of virilizing and aromatasing of both and what sides would develop if 300 was sustained on a even delivery method vs the big curve of pellets. The last yr has been great for her on the 300 pellet curve,E has stayed within range.Occasionally she will take progesterone in small amounts for better sleep. She takes .50 grain of t3 and seems to keep thyroid function at a better level as well.Maybe the dim she takes helps with the E or possibly her body is just functioning much better at this level of T and maintains it naturally.

.15 seems like a very small amount of t cyp.Where is this keeping her T? Is there any resource or study you are basing that on? These hrt docs dont like to talk much outside their product lines,They know if all their patients knew all the facts on cost vs performance they would lose alot to injections imho. Instead they tell you the pellets aromatase far less,and give you a much more even does of hormone than injections. Maybe if comparing to injections every 2 or 3 weeks,but no way in comparison to every week,with t cyp having a 8 day half life.

.125cc is 25mg and times 10 (very inaccurate rule) would be a theoretical best serum level of 250. The only way to know for sure will be the blood tests. In fact as I stated above I am going to start her at 15mg a week should she choose to try this route

 

[suncom3]

i bet women who cycle any aas and have to come off with no T boost,hate it.going back to natual levels of plus 40 yr old after feeling that goood....super sucky. Check out suzzane sommers and the fountain of youth and vitality she found in optimizing hormones and good diet.

 

[suncom3]

.125cc is 25mg and times 10 (very inaccurate rule) would be a theoretical best serum level of 250. The only way to know for sure will be the blood tests. In fact as I stated above I am going to start her at 15mg a week should she choose to try this route

ah you mean .12.5cc that makes sense

 

[Iron Vett]

ah you mean .12.5cc that makes sense

Yea. It'll take slin needles to be that accurate. And I am also planning to use our new testing service here at Meso to ensure that we know the true dosage of the test that she will use.

 

[suncom3]

slin needles are pretty small to push oils,I tried,didnt work at all. What testing service u referring to? T cyp is easy to get a gyn to script,tell them she is already on pellets and the cost is to high,Told my doc i was tired of paying for low t clinic and he gave me a script to test no problem. hgh was a little more of a ordeal for script. Its to easy and cheap at costco to get pharma T to mess with ugl.

 

[Iron Vett]

Yea slin pins are kinda tough but for just an 1/8 of a cc, it shouldn't be too bad.

Laboratory testing of AASs, GH, peptides...
It looks like Meso might be getting a testing service accessible to the members

 

[Sampei]

We use test E dosed at 300mg
weekly dosage 15mg
Last time with 10mg she was at 70ng

With 15 she will be a little higher.
To be honest 100ng is the max level for a woman on any bloodtest i have seen. So i dont see the reason in injecting more. I mean 300ng it's male territory i have few friends at those level.

I dont feel comfortable in injecting 20-30mg week.

 

[ScabbyJr]

What do you think some of these ifbb pro figure girls run in terms of cycles?

Thanks guys

Anavar, primo, clen, winstrol.
First hand knowledge. Not pulling compounds out of my ass.

 

[ScabbyJr]

Oops..old thread