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Anabolic Steroids
Female issues with cycle, advice please
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Pericles
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Chauvinist? Double standard? No, simply stating medical facts. If my testicles shrink, they can be brought back (same goes for most other sides).
On the other hand, a lower voice, a larger Adams apple, hirsuitism are permanent.
On the other hand, a lower voice, a larger Adams apple, hirsuitism are permanent.
Pericles
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"You will develop an adam's apple"??????[
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You have never seen that happen? It does.
mac111
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and 'retarded troll of the year' award goes to............
I think that's BS. It may seem to when the neck muscles harden and thin out, but the size of the adam's apple is determined in adolescence and does not change. At least that's what the information I could collect on the Web indicates. (I admit I've seen some female BB who use roids with what appears to be a more pronounced AA.)
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And, one more thing, a female has the right to choose her lifestyle just as much as any man. We had a beautiful young woman on this forum (sportsclub) who ran a small amount of Test prop for a cycle and gained great muscle, a more sensitive clit, and great orgasms. After that, she eased out, had a child, and is still all woman through and through.
Some other women may choose to become more "masculinized" just as some men choose to become more feminized (though that remains beyond comprehension for me
). Such women handle their sides just as we handle ours. Many others straddle the border and only enhance their beauty (i.e., fitness models and trainers). Each person can choose who they want to be, but I certainly agree they should educate themselves on consequences before proceeding.
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Some other women may choose to become more "masculinized" just as some men choose to become more feminized (though that remains beyond comprehension for me
). Such women handle their sides just as we handle ours. Many others straddle the border and only enhance their beauty (i.e., fitness models and trainers). Each person can choose who they want to be, but I certainly agree they should educate themselves on consequences before proceeding.Solo
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sassy69
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I'm running a new cycle, Mast/Prop/HGH/Clen....only 10 days in. What I am noticing, and it's NEVER an issue with me, is vaginal dryness. Could the cycle to causing this...I've tried to find articles where it might be mentioned but to no avail...any experience with this....ANYONE!!!???
Missed the quote w/ your dosing, but my first annoyance when asked details about cycles are when dosing is given in CC's. That doesn't tell me anything about the concentration of your stuff. Is it 100mg/ml or is it 300mg/ml? That can be the difference between 'typical dosing' to 'you just fucked yourself'. Please keep that in mind for future cycles.
I also don't like that you're stacking stuff you've never used individually before. My guess is you got this cycle from a guy.
This is ignorant. Those across-the-board statements like this are not helping anyone. Reality is that there are women using a variety of stuff all day long. And frankly many don't like anavar because of the not uncommon water retention they experience. That said, yes the risk of sides are higher on most everything else besides anavar, but to just brush aside a reasonable conversation on a steroid board as "women can only do this" is why most women don't go on muscle boards and end up getting shitty advice from their juice head bf/so/hubby.
Really starting to hate hearing about this. Don't like the idea.
This is another dismissive statement about women & steroids. Its sorta like bringing up any of your favorite extreme growth gut mass monsters or maybe Lyle Alzado for guys who want to run cycles and then just say "you shouldn't because it will kill you". The examples you brought up are very extreme, very uncommon and not very useful for this discussion.
And, one more thing, a female has the right to choose her lifestyle just as much as any man. We had a beautiful young woman on this forum (sportsclub) who ran a small amount of Test prop for a cycle and gained great muscle, a more sensitive clit, and great orgasms. After that, she eased out, had a child, and is still all woman through and through.
Some other women may choose to become more "masculinized" just as some men choose to become more feminized (though that remains beyond comprehension for me
Solo
Agree
To the OP's original statements - just like when guys experience their first deca dick, limpy dick or clomid moment on a cycle - you're fucking w/ your basic hormone levels and all those things we normally expect from our sexual parts, are going to go thru some sort of impact to the overall hormone balance. I imagine the reason for this stack is to use prop, but because it converts a bit, masteron is also thrown in there. For a newb, I wouldn't recommend this stack - particularly if you're going tor run it w/ clen - which is implying you're doing a cutting cycle. Prop IMO is for hypertrophy, and not cutting. Throwing masteron as a cutter, IMO is a "guy approach" to pick some steroid because of some effect you want, and then start throwing other stuff in there to selectively attempt to control different side effects. This may work for guys, but for women it compound s the total amount of steroid, which obviously compounds the overall sides, which may (probably) be overkill for whatever you were trying to accomplish in the first place.
The masteron, because it has a bit of an aromatase inhibitor probably caused the vaginal dryness. As w/ any cycle, ain't nuttin for free, so when you start experiencing these sorts of sides, step back and look at what you are cycling and determine if those sides are even necessary because of less-than-appropriate cycle. Otherwise, welcome to the dark side and just live with until your compound clears.
Here's a ref for the masteron profile: Masteron - Steroids Profile
And here's a quick pull on "causes of vaginal dryness", specifically the below paragraph:
Causes of Vaginal Dryness
Physically speaking, vaginal dryness results from a hormonal imbalance and issues with the endocrine and reproductive systems. Vaginal dryness usually indicates a lack of the female hormone progesterone, but also a lack of the female hormone estrogen or perhaps a lack of both hormones in some cases.
On a deep level of understanding, when the vagina fails to naturally lubricate, it's a sign that the woman does not want to have sex or that the woman should not be engaging in sex.
Natural vaginal lubrication is necessary for penile penetration and if there's a problem with the vagina becoming lubricated (which it naturally does when a woman is sexually stimulated), then it's a sign that sex should not be taking place until a problem is first addressed. The problem could be physical, mental, emotional, psychological, or even etheric.
The majority of females do not enjoy painful, burning penile penetration (which can rupture the delicate and soft vaginal tissue and lead to bleeding). Painful, burning penetration results from sex while the vagina is not lubricated.
Read more: Vaginal Dryness
Pericles
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Oh, I forgot to mention: I have seen women do well on EQ, good results w/ minimum side effects, so an EQ/Var/Nolvadex stack is what I would recommend instead of one that is more androgenic.
What your describing is not uncommon but readily treatable with a vaginal estrogen cream.
whitegato777
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To answer your original question. As far as I've read vaginal dryness is most likely from low estrogen from the masteron. If the dose is right then there isn't anything wrong with taking a little testosterone. It will help raise estrogen and is used as a form of hormone replacement therapy for women.
The examples I quoted is what WILL happen if a female is not careful, every time.
As far as the whole adam's apple issues, if a female overdoes it she WILL get a deeper voice, and it WILL be permanent.
I really don't give a shit either way, but saying that a female isn't taking a MUCH bigger risk is bullshit........ I guess if she doesn't mind taking on more masculine characteristics its not an issue or potential problem at all.
Pericles
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Kamala,
Sassy's response is a product of political correctness gone haywire. I normally don't even bother with responding to arguments that are so far out in left field.
If women are truly equal, shouldn't they be able to do the same steroids as men?
Are we not chauvinists for pointing out the realities of androgenic effects?
Common sense says of course not. Unfortunately, not heeding advice rooted in reality will have very deleterious, and even tragic consequences.
Sassy's response is a product of political correctness gone haywire. I normally don't even bother with responding to arguments that are so far out in left field.
If women are truly equal, shouldn't they be able to do the same steroids as men?
Are we not chauvinists for pointing out the realities of androgenic effects?
Common sense says of course not. Unfortunately, not heeding advice rooted in reality will have very deleterious, and even tragic consequences.
whitegato777
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I hate it when people use lyle alzado as an example of steroid induced death! There is no scientific evidence linking his death with steroid use!
The virilization which may occur in females using AAS are generally reversible upon discontinuation the primary exception being a deepening vocal pattern seen with prolonged use and at "higher doses". The probability of virilization increases considerably once the tT:E-2 ratio becomes equalized AND increases even more upon achieving a male tT:E-2 ratio (typically 10-20:1). The use of progesterogenic anabolics especially Trenbolene and Deca Durabolic will have similar effects as will the more potent oral anabolics such as Dianabol. Unfortunately however the greatest anabolic effect is noted with the use of more "potent" anabolics or once the male tT:E-2 ratio is approximated. Nonetheless a few females are willing to accept the risks, which becomes mandatory if one really wants to compete at a professional level. For those not seeking a career in BB but rather are interested in acquiring additional muscle mass whilst minimizing the virillizing effects of steroids, DHT analogs (Masteron, Primobolan, Anavar) are the most viable option IMO. That being said almost all females will note increased facial hair growth with continued AAS use. However the second vocal changes are noted its time to reassess one's objectives and perform appropriate blood work. Consequently I would caution females to seek medical supervision if anabolics are being considered since their use absent an acceptable evaluation places them at risk for permanent virillization!
Agreed.
I'm all about equality, its just that some people have issues with reality........ I'm the first guy here to shit all over a man who I feel is not ready for AAS, or using chemicals in a way I'd feel is dangerous or stupid.
I've seen more than one thread written by a woman who thought she was taking anavar, that turned out to be Dbol (because it was UG and counter-fitted) and got bad sides........ I don't think giant penis clit syndrome is reversible either.
