How was significant levels of bacteria quantified?
How many people developed an infection from this high level contamination?
When (what year) was this "study" conducted?
What filtering equipment was available in that period, (I know its improved considerably, since it's now relatively easy to remove even large viruses)
Do UGL filter their raws? Damn right they do or I can just about promise you, contaminated gear would be the cry heard around the AAS forum world! And that is the BEST way to decimate any UGLs reputation, guaranteed!
Do UGL STERILIZE their raws, vials, stoppers, or other related equipment! Heck no bc its not necessary providing the gear is appropriately FILTERED.
Even if the gear I use has bacteria present does that mean an infection will develop?
NOT even close for several reasons such as:
1) A dermal swap will grow more CFU (Colony Forming Units; a quantative assay used correlate the risk of infection with the number of bacteria) than almost any gear, yet infections are still rare
2) The use of Benzyl Alcohol, melting the AAS and the solvent oil itself prevent in-vitro bacterial reproduction
3) Your own immune system is fully capable of combating what little innoculum is placed bc of gear
4) The most common cause of post-pinning infections by far is poor sterile technique and in many instances the user technique is absolutely abhorrent, IME
5) Does gear need to be filtered again upon receipt? If it does, YOUR UNEQUIVOCALLY USING THE WRONG SUPPLIER PERIOD
6) So although re-filtering the gear you've purchased probably (I say probably bc those folk whom are not familiar with the filtering equipment and techniques may actually end up with a more contaminated product) does no harm, it's benefit is negligible at best and is not a requisite for ensuring untainted AAS, IMO
Regs
JIM
How was significant levels of bacteria quantified?
<< you really don't know? every westernized country has an injectable medication standard max colony count when grown on media for QC, and I'm sure those that states 'significant' meant the colony was too many so it was not even countable.
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1) A dermal swap will grow more CFU (Colony Forming Units; a quantative assay used correlate the risk of infection with the number of bacteria) than almost any gear, yet infections are still rare (O)
-> I do agree about this one. That is why you need to wait until the alcohol to be completely dried
2) The use of Benzyl Alcohol, melting the AAS and the solvent oil itself prevent in-vitro bacterial reproduction (x)
-> It does not prevent, it just subpress the growth rate of the bacterial reproduction. However, if you use something like 80% BA then it will kill them all.
3) Your own immune system is fully capable of combating what little innoculum is placed bc of gear (x)
-> Your immune system cannot fight all the huge amount of bacteria if it's directly came to attack you from the inside (avoiding the strong barrier which is the skin) and we use a lot of oils to inject.
4) The most common cause of post-pinning infections by far is poor sterile technique and in many instances the user technique is absolutely abhorrent, IME
-> If you swab the injection location & vial top wait until it dries , change the needle (from the oil drawing needle) then the chance is so so low.
5) Does gear need to be filtered again upon receipt? If it does, YOUR UNEQUIVOCALLY USING THE WRONG SUPPLIER PERIOD (x)
-> Maybe Maaaybe recently all the UGLs does filter their oil, however I doubt half of them has clean bench to process it thoroughly and autoclaves.
6) So although re-filtering the gear you've purchased probably (I say probably bc those folk whom are not familiar with the filtering equipment and techniques may actually end up with a more contaminated product) does no harm, it's benefit is negligible at best and is not a requisite for ensuring untainted AAS, IMO (O)
-> Maybe because of my educational background and the access for clean bench makes it safe to filter the UGL oils for me. However, it's such an easy job to do, just swipe the near area with alcohol. Turn on a candle(to make even cleaner) and filter!
I'm pretty sure there are a lot more ppl been infected by dirty UGL oils then we know. Just like so many serious medication pill side-effect has not been reported very recently and now people are surprised how serious those side-effect are and more often it occurs.
