Fire Pharm - Local Supplier

[BalkanAesthetics]

Just popping in so I get the post notifs on this one, definitely going to be interesting. First FirePharm customer anyone? Bueller?

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Sure there are similarities. Every source pretty much has the same group of products, no? There are a lot of differences too. His prices are a little cheaper overall. His dosages are different. I don't offer tbol, arimidex, or viagra. I would never use protein powder for filler. I think packs of 30 caps are way too small.

Of course you're not going to make it a carbon copy, that would be too obvious.

You switched it up, you just didn't switch it up enough and now here you are looking like a failure that rebranded.

 

[Iron_Yuppie]

I’ll make a comment that several people won’t like, but fuck it, it needs to be said. As of right now I do not care if this is Pristine. Because of the issues with his process leading to wonky results absolutely nobody should be ordering until we have more details. @BigBaldBeardGuy asked him to lay out his process and I think he needs to do that. If you guys want to chase down the Pristine angle then go right ahead, it’s useful information if it turns out to be true. But if the next six pages are just going to be one guy saying “you’re Pristine” and his response is “no I’m not” then it’s going to take some time away from the more important matter in front of us. If he can’t sell us on his mastery of the process by which he’s making his gear then it does not matter if he’s Pristine. So let’s get to the bottom of the brewing process before we turn any attention to his potential past. I personally want to know more about testing, his local clients, his private clients, and how he’s going to manage the volume going forward should he end up becoming popular. I’m way more interested in those answers right now. If he’s Pristine then it’ll come out. That stuff always does.

 

[FirePharm]

I appreciate your honesty but have to say WTF. How long have you been brewing? Accuracy and experience is what customers are paying for.

It’s costing you less that $2 to make a vial of testosterone.

So we are paying a premium for “a pinch of this, a smidge of that, and a splash of oils. Close enough!”

Raw in your filter? C’mon. So you spin it and don’t have it dissolved but filter anyway?

Maybe it’d be a good idea to walk us thru the steps you take to make a batch. You pick the compound. Be detailed.

Sure.

Say I'm making a 500ml batch of tren ace.

I weigh 52g of powder and put it in a clean beaker.

I use 20% BB for tren a so I pull 100ml of BB with a 60ml syringe and push it into the beaker

I put the mixture on the hotplate, low heat for tren, and wait for it to dissolve. Once it dissolves a bit, about 50%, I throw in a magnetic spinner and turn the spinner on

In a separate beaker, I measure 348ml of mct oil

Once the tren mixture is fully dissolved I slowly pour in the mct oil, spinner still on.

I wait about 15 minutes, then turn the heat off, keep the spinner on

I measure 10ml of BA with a 10ml syringe

I inject the BA into the dissolved solution and let it mix for another 15-20 minutes

Once it's completely cooled, I run it through the peristaltic filter setup into a media bottle.

*With tren ace specifically, sometimes I have to turn the heat back on and mix it again because the raw starts to separate.

I am convinced that a lot of the tren ace raws that are out there have some type of leftover tren base mixed in from processing and that's what results in "cloudy" tren people talk about sometimes. That's what a raw source told me a few years ago. Sometimes tren a mixes perfectly fine, other times it doesn't.

So yes, with tren a, I think it's possible some of the raw separates inside the filter when I filter a completely cooled solution.

 

[Cityofgrit]

@FirePharm if you had the raws tested before brewing, then how did you fuck up all the finished product that was tested?

I was wondering that as well...evey finished product is off the mark.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

I’ll make a comment that several people won’t like, but fuck it, it needs to be said. As of right now I do not care if this is Pristine. Because of the issues with his process leading to wonky results absolutely nobody should be ordering until we have more details. @BigBaldBeardGuy asked him to lay out his process and I think he needs to do that. If you guys want to chase down the Pristine angle then go right ahead, it’s useful information if it turns out to be true. But if the next six pages are just going to be one guy saying “you’re Pristine” and his response is “no I’m not” then it’s going to take some time away from the more important matter in front of us. If he can’t sell us on his mastery of the process by which he’s making his gear then it does not matter if he’s Pristine. So let’s get to the bottom of the brewing process before we turn any attention to his potential past. I personally want to know more about testing, his local clients, his private clients, and how he’s going to manage the volume going forward should he end up becoming popular. I’m way more interested in those answers right now. If he’s Pristine then it’ll come out. That stuff always does.

Now i'm beginning to think that you're Pristine or an alt handle of Fire Pharm.

(If we had the old emojis, i would insert the green smiley face one here, but the ones we have now are gay, so you'll have to use your imagination.)

Good point though, and since noobs are typically too lazy to read even a couple posts before they ask their stupid g2g question, pointing out the obvious any further is a waste of time.

 

[Cityofgrit]

Now i'm beginning to think that you're Pristine or an alt handle of Fire Pharm.

(If we had the old emojis, i would insert the green smiley face one here, but the ones we have now are gay, so you'll have to use your imagination.)

Good point though, and since noobs are typically too lazy to read even a couple posts before they ask their stupid g2g question, pointing out the obvious any further is a waste of time.

The emojis got changed???

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Sure.

Say I'm making a 500ml batch of tren ace.

I weigh 52g of powder and put it in a clean beaker.

I use 20% BB for tren a so I pull 100ml of BB with a 60ml syringe and push it into the beaker

I put the mixture on the hotplate, low heat for tren, and wait for it to dissolve. Once it dissolves a bit, about 50%, I throw in a magnetic spinner and turn the spinner on

In a separate beaker, I measure 348ml of mct oil

Once the tren mixture is fully dissolved I slowly pour in the mct oil, spinner still on.

I wait about 15 minutes, then turn the heat off, keep the spinner on

I measure 10ml of BA with a 10ml syringe

I inject the BA into the dissolved solution and let it mix for another 15-20 minutes

Once it's completely cooled, I run it through the peristaltic filter setup into a media bottle.

*With tren ace specifically, sometimes I have to turn the heat back on and mix it again because the raw starts to separate.

I am convinced that a lot of the tren ace raws that are out there have some type of leftover tren base mixed in from processing and that's what results in "cloudy" tren people talk about sometimes. That's what a raw source told me a few years ago. Sometimes tren a mixes perfectly fine, other times it doesn't.

So yes, with tren a, I think it's possible some of the raw separates inside the filter when I filter a completely cooled solution.

Your test report from Jano says Trenbolone Acetate 98% so explain to me how filtering and having some amount of Tren base in the 2% would ever effect your Tren Ace concentration.

Measuring 348 ml in a beaker is more likely the issue. I’d like to see you guessing that.

 

[Iron_Yuppie]

Agreeing with BBG, it’s the beaker. You measure out the BB with a syringe, but you don’t do it for the oil. So you’re getting an accurate amount of BB but the MCT is only an approximation. Measure the oil either with a more accurate medium (graduated cylinder works, but a volumetric flask is better) or draw the oil out into a large syringe, just as you do for the BB.

 

[Mitch2020]

Every time I get my hopes up shit falls apart .lol last time I was on here (10 months) stanford was available , symbiotics, and others. Now it seems the sources fall on their nutsack before they even finish Introducing themselves.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Every time I get my hopes up shit falls apart .lol last time I was on here (10 months) stanford was available , symbiotics, and others. Now it seems the sources fall on their nutsack before they even finish Introducing themselves.

BTW, this is his second try too. He came here in July, things didn’t work out well so he disappeared and plunked down some money to be a “Verified Supplier” at AASForum. His thread there is so super slow that he came crawling back here for more.

 

[Mitch2020]

BTW, this is his second try too. He came here in July, things didn’t work out well so he disappeared and plunked down some money to be a “Verified Supplier” at AASForum. His thread there is so super slow that he came crawling back here fo

BTW, this is his second try too. He came here in July, things didn’t work out well so he disappeared and plunked down some money to be a “Verified Supplier” at AASForum. His thread there is so super slow that he came crawling back here for more.

Confirmed? I read all 7 pages and give credit to those who put the pieces together but has this since been verified? God I wish I had more time to just read.i drive 4 hours round trip for work so my free time is fucked right now and when I do read I'm so tired I wouldn't have put2 and 2 together. I'll pass on another one.

 

[FirePharm]

I wish I could say for sure. I follow proven recipes to the T so I think I can narrow it down to beakers being bad for measuring exact oil amounts or oil/raw material being caught in the filter during filtering. I'm using graduated cylinders to measure oil from now on...I think that will improve the accuracy. Clearly there is room for improvement.

Your test report from Jano says Trenbolone Acetate 98% so explain to me how filtering and having some amount of Tren base in the 2% would ever effect your Tren Ace concentration.

Measuring 348 ml in a beaker is more likely the issue. I’d like to see you guessing that.

I agree the beaker is the most logical misstep in the process, and that's what I said in the bolded part above. It's a pretty careless mistake I can admit. In the future I'm going to measure my oil with 60ml syringes and a graduated cylinder.

Agreeing with BBG, it’s the beaker. You measure out the BB with a syringe, but you don’t do it for the oil. So you’re getting an accurate amount of BB but the MCT is only an approximation. Measure the oil either with a more accurate medium (graduated cylinder works, but a volumetric flask is better) or draw the oil out into a large syringe, just as you do for the BB.

I have volumetric flasks as well. I am going to test both and see which is more accurate.

 

[FirePharm]

BTW, this is his second try too. He came here in July, things didn’t work out well so he disappeared and plunked down some money to be a “Verified Supplier” at AASForum. His thread there is so super slow that he came crawling back here for more.

For the record, I get plenty of emails from AASF customers. Unfortunately most of them are asking if they can pay with CIM or WU instead of crypto. Seems like a lot of super old school guys over there.

 

[jJjburton]

BigBear labs?

 

[MisterSuperGod]

BigBear labs?

Equally as pathetic, but doubtful. Then again, in the clusterfuck underground any damn thing is possible.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

BigBear labs?

They use a similar looking stainless steel work table.

Big Bears on the left. Fire Pharm on the right. The lip on the back edge looks the same.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

They use a similar looking stainless steel work table.

Big Bears on the left. Fire Pharm on the right. The lip on the back edge looks the same.

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i'm convinced it's him. Burn him!

 

[jJjburton]

They use a similar looking stainless steel work table.

Big Bears on the left. Fire Pharm on the right. The lip on the back edge looks the same.

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And big bear was always defending himself how He had business even though he never did.

For the record, I get plenty of emails from AASF customers. Unfortunately most of them are asking if they can pay with CIM or WU instead of crypto. Seems like a lot of super old school guys over there.

see firepharm defending himself how he has orders. Even though he doesnt. Lol

 

[Buck01]

Back to your own dead thread. This is Fire Pharma’s dead thread.

We can’t have all of our lame sources wandering around. It’s starting to look like a mental hospital.

Ok boss, yes we didn't make you trust me here on MESO, but I also didn't scam anybody here. So now I even can not post here right ? Even though I post under a thread maybe make by the scammer who scammed me before? Thanks! Have a good night.