First Anavar Cycle for Cutting

Hahaha thanks!! Yeah I see how they are just looking out. But yeah got annoyed lol
Yes ...boys can be annoying sometimes BUT if you were a dude and came on here saying you're only running dbol (or any other oral without test) they would rip you to shreds for your own good and healthy future... because usually that's what you see from the young ones on their very first cycle... you'll see...
 
I feel the need to clarify and/or apologize if my post seemed pointed at you @GearGodess bc I assure you it was not. You're the best point of reference this girl has because you are a woman and have experienced-based input here. However, you aren't the only one that made suggestions as to incorporating other compounds and dosage protocol in both this thread and the other identical one she started if you look back.

Again, if you reread my initial post I stand behind the fact that if she was a 20 year old male with real opportunity to make a living off his/her body I would say go for it. I also believe based on my experience here 99% of members would say contrary to my belief, and blast a 20 year old male for starting a cycle then coming here for help. I don't believe women should not use AAS/PEDs. I've dated two NPC competitors, one natural the other not so much, both were the epitome of feminism so I'm not sure where that came from. I won't post pics of them out of respect as we are no longer together and they are still active competitors, however many members have seen pics of one or both posted here.

I'm literally one of the LEAST judgmental members here and have the post history to prove it, I never play the "big brother" card. My issues aren't with the OP being a 20y/o female running gear, they are with the senior membership here being sloppy, overlooking the basics lately. Anavar is "mild" sure, but it doesn't come without it's risks and neither do substances like ephedrine and clenbuterol...I base that on the fact I took 40mcg this morning and shaking like a leaf as I write this. I don't believe ANY of the advice in this thread was "dangerous" or not intended to be constructive towards her particular goals...it may be the same exact advice members would prescribe once we have all the facts. My intention is not to silence the women's community or discourage female athletes from using PEDs to achieve their goals.

I do believe that prescibing any advice without getting the entire picture in regards to age, diet, training, experience....is misguided. Should be the first questions asked imo and I stand by that, which is all I was hoping to illustrate here. I made an assumption the reason we were all overlooking the basics is bc she's an attractive female in a predominantly male board. I think some other assumptions were made as well in regards to her diet and training, and her access to the "inner circle" of the competitive bodybuilding world. My personal belief is these assumptions are problematic for a couple reasons. If she indeed is surrounded with such high level competitors that she has access to the best drugs available, why is she on an anonymous board seeking advice on winning her pro card?
If her goals are to "tighten up all over and make my shoulders pop more", why hasn't anyone let her know that drugs don't make shoulders grow...Presses and raises make shoulders grow. Maybe we all assumed she knows that as well?

Now this one is pointed at you @GearGodess , you have a ton of knowledge and experience and have been around the boards long enough to know..."women are more in tune with their bodies so they will know if something is wrong". o_O Come on now you know you gotta come with something better than that.

I didn't mean to post this in your log @ OP....apologies that's cardinal sin numero uno around here. This post is just identical to the one you made in the other thread. Welcome to Meso, I'm the outspoken dick ;)
 
I dont think anyone is questioning you, it was more a question of why we tend to give younger males a hard time when it comes to PEDs and not females.

We all know its your body, but for the most part we all watch out for eachother. Its like a family around here. And like your regular family theres good (like having eachothers back), and bad (like getting on eachothers nerves, arguing, and walking in on mom and dad roleplaying cops and robbers).

Hopefully youll stick around (along with @GearGodess, @HolRog28, and some others) so we can build up our female membership and get different POVs. Plus we need women for the intermural steroid softball team against the other forums.
Well thank you for looking out. I need you guys. Haven't told my boyfriend because he thinks it's makes women turn into men lol and he said if I ever took anavar after two days my voice will deepen Hahahahahah so recommended I don't take it so have not told him yet keeping it secret for a little while. Annoying for him to tell me not to when he has been Using AAS for years
 
I feel the need to clarify and/or apologize if my post seemed pointed at you @GearGodess bc I assure you it was not. You're the best point of reference this girl has because you are a woman and have experienced-based input here. However, you aren't the only one that made suggestions as to incorporating other compounds and dosage protocol in both this thread and the other identical one she started if you look back.

Again, if you reread my initial post I stand behind the fact that if she was a 20 year old male with real opportunity to make a living off his/her body I would say go for it. I also believe based on my experience here 99% of members would say contrary to my belief, and blast a 20 year old male for starting a cycle then coming here for help. I don't believe women should not use AAS/PEDs. I've dated two NPC competitors, one natural the other not so much, both were the epitome of feminism so I'm not sure where that came from. I won't post pics of them out of respect as we are no longer together and they are still active competitors, however many members have seen pics of one or both posted here.

I'm literally one of the LEAST judgmental members here and have the post history to prove it, I never play the "big brother" card. My issues aren't with the OP being a 20y/o female running gear, they are with the senior membership here being sloppy, overlooking the basics lately. Anavar is "mild" sure, but it doesn't come without it's risks and neither do substances like ephedrine and clenbuterol...I base that on the fact I took 40mcg this morning and shaking like a leaf as I write this. I don't believe ANY of the advice in this thread was "dangerous" or not intended to be constructive towards her particular goals...it may be the same exact advice members would prescribe once we have all the facts. My intention is not to silence the women's community or discourage female athletes from using PEDs to achieve their goals.

I do believe that prescibing any advice without getting the entire picture in regards to age, diet, training, experience....is misguided. Should be the first questions asked imo and I stand by that, which is all I was hoping to illustrate here. I made an assumption the reason we were all overlooking the basics is bc she's an attractive female in a predominantly male board. I think some other assumptions were made as well in regards to her diet and training, and her access to the "inner circle" of the competitive bodybuilding world. My personal belief is these assumptions are problematic for a couple reasons. If she indeed is surrounded with such high level competitors that she has access to the best drugs available, why is she on an anonymous board seeking advice on winning her pro card?
If her goals are to "tighten up all over and make my shoulders pop more", why hasn't anyone let her know that drugs don't make shoulders grow...Presses and raises make shoulders grow. Maybe we all assumed she knows that as well?

Now this one is pointed at you @GearGodess , you have a ton of knowledge and experience and have been around the boards long enough to know..."women are more in tune with their bodies so they will know if something is wrong". o_O Come on now you know you gotta come with something better than that.

I didn't mean to post this in your log @ OP....apologies that's cardinal sin numero uno around here. This post is just identical to the one you made in the other thread. Welcome to Meso, I'm the outspoken dick ;)
It's all good. I get your points and agree with most of them...
 
I feel the need to clarify and/or apologize if my post seemed pointed at you @GearGodess bc I assure you it was not. You're the best point of reference this girl has because you are a woman and have experienced-based input here. However, you aren't the only one that made suggestions as to incorporating other compounds and dosage protocol in both this thread and the other identical one she started if you look back.

Again, if you reread my initial post I stand behind the fact that if she was a 20 year old male with real opportunity to make a living off his/her body I would say go for it. I also believe based on my experience here 99% of members would say contrary to my belief, and blast a 20 year old male for starting a cycle then coming here for help. I don't believe women should not use AAS/PEDs. I've dated two NPC competitors, one natural the other not so much, both were the epitome of feminism so I'm not sure where that came from. I won't post pics of them out of respect as we are no longer together and they are still active competitors, however many members have seen pics of one or both posted here.

I'm literally one of the LEAST judgmental members here and have the post history to prove it, I never play the "big brother" card. My issues aren't with the OP being a 20y/o female running gear, they are with the senior membership here being sloppy, overlooking the basics lately. Anavar is "mild" sure, but it doesn't come without it's risks and neither do substances like ephedrine and clenbuterol...I base that on the fact I took 40mcg this morning and shaking like a leaf as I write this. I don't believe ANY of the advice in this thread was "dangerous" or not intended to be constructive towards her particular goals...it may be the same exact advice members would prescribe once we have all the facts. My intention is not to silence the women's community or discourage female athletes from using PEDs to achieve their goals.

I do believe that prescibing any advice without getting the entire picture in regards to age, diet, training, experience....is misguided. Should be the first questions asked imo and I stand by that, which is all I was hoping to illustrate here. I made an assumption the reason we were all overlooking the basics is bc she's an attractive female in a predominantly male board. I think some other assumptions were made as well in regards to her diet and training, and her access to the "inner circle" of the competitive bodybuilding world. My personal belief is these assumptions are problematic for a couple reasons. If she indeed is surrounded with such high level competitors that she has access to the best drugs available, why is she on an anonymous board seeking advice on winning her pro card?
If her goals are to "tighten up all over and make my shoulders pop more", why hasn't anyone let her know that drugs don't make shoulders grow...Presses and raises make shoulders grow. Maybe we all assumed she knows that as well?

Now this one is pointed at you @GearGodess , you have a ton of knowledge and experience and have been around the boards long enough to know..."women are more in tune with their bodies so they will know if something is wrong". o_O Come on now you know you gotta come with something better than that.

I didn't mean to post this in your log @ OP....apologies that's cardinal sin numero uno around here. This post is just identical to the one you made in the other thread. Welcome to Meso, I'm the outspoken dick ;)
I wasn't seeking any advice on how to win my pro card or saying anavar will build my shoulders I was saying those are my goals and what I am working towards. Like I said here to listen to any advice you guys have, learn and share my experience.
 
I wasn't seeking any advice on how to win my pro card or saying anavar will build my shoulders I was saying those are my goals and what I am working towards. Like I said here to listen to any advice you guys have, learn and share my experience.
Good luck...stick around it's all here.
Welcome to Meso
 
Stick around meso for awhile and you'll see a post with younger kids asking for advice on there cycle and you'll understand completely why some of the above was said. I see posts about first cycles and PCT that quite often look like a trainwreck waiting to happen. So with that in mind it's common around here to tell someone a little younger to be very careful. What sets you apart is you seem a lot smarter and experienced so I think you'll be just fine.

Plus very few guys on here are knowledgeable in regards to females cycling, I myself always tag gear godess and now you can understand why from her quality posts.
thank you!
It's all good. I get your points and agree with most of them...
you seem to know a lot. My boyfriend does not know I take anavar although the other night mentioned I should try arimidex for fat loss. I do not know a lot about it and I wasn't going to try something I know nothing about. What do you know about this? Like what it does and it's side effects. Very curious
 
thank you!

you seem to know a lot. My boyfriend does not know I take anavar although the other night mentioned I should try arimidex for fat loss. I do not know a lot about it and I wasn't going to try something I know nothing about. What do you know about this? Like what it does and it's side effects. Very curious
Adex for fat loss eh?
How much do you rely on him for information?

Arimidex is used in our lifestyle for lowering estrogen in males. It has no effect on fat loss what so ever. Water weight loss? Sure
 
thank you!

you seem to know a lot. My boyfriend does not know I take anavar although the other night mentioned I should try arimidex for fat loss. I do not know a lot about it and I wasn't going to try something I know nothing about. What do you know about this? Like what it does and it's side effects. Very curious
Arimidex... not fat loss for sure. He maybe meant Nolvadex and Proviron. I have suggested that combo as well as used it myself for prep. It reduces water and yes for fat loss. It will lean you out and dry you up more.

To be honest, I'd stick to anavar this run.
 
Adex for fat loss eh?
How much do you rely on him for information?

Arimidex is used in our lifestyle for lowering estrogen in males. It has no effect on fat loss what so ever. Water weight loss? Sure
Yeah I know! from what I read it's okay to take starting at about ten days out for water loss which is why I ask so I can tell him what it does haha!
 
Probably referring to the hardening effect.
It's more if you are bloating at all... but if your diet is on point then there is no need for it... I doubt it would harden her up. I think it would be a waste of money... it won't or shouldn't effect her estrogen levels as we already have boobs. Lol.. so it just doesn't make sense to me for a female to be using it. There are waaaay better options.
 
Yeah I know! from what I read it's okay to take starting at about ten days out for water loss which is why I ask so I can tell him what it does haha!
Arimidex is brand name
Generic is anastrozole

It's primarily prescribed to treat breast cancer in post menopausal women.
Men use it to keep estrogen in check. Some are more predisposed to high e2 and it's symptoms than others. As are women. In a male it's dose dependent ratio as compared to testosterone. The higher the test dose the higher the adex dose.

The issue I have is why would adex be needed in a low dose anavar run?
 
I also forgot to mention, Var should absolutely not give you any bloat... and I truly believe bloat happens 99% of the time due to poor diet...
 
I also forgot to mention, Var should absolutely not give you any bloat... and I truly believe bloat happens 99% of the time due to poor diet...
Yup so happy no bloat at all! My diet and water intake is on point and anavar seems to help as well. Been dropping really well this week and feel like the anavar has helped me not have cravings too:)
 
Arimidex is brand name
Generic is anastrozole

It's primarily prescribed to treat breast cancer in post menopausal women.
Men use it to keep estrogen in check. Some are more predisposed to high e2 and it's symptoms than others. As are women. In a male it's dose dependent ratio as compared to testosterone. The higher the test dose the higher the adex dose.

The issue I have is why would adex be needed in a low dose anavar run?
Yeah I knew what it does to men just not women. Thank you guys for the info:)
 
I also forgot to mention, Var should absolutely not give you any bloat... and I truly believe bloat happens 99% of the time due to poor diet...
Yeah I agree diet is everything! I'm on very high fat low carb which helps get rid of bloat when I had more carbs was bloated like every day it was awful
 
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