First cycle after 447 days off

[Vanargandar]

Looking forward to seeing your progress/updates old man! I, for one, enjoy the openness and honesty put forth in this thread. A lot of people here only post the "good" pictures of themselves (not that you look that bad to begin with). Following!

 

[Mongo966]

Haha, no! Just thought it was funny. When I go on cycle I pretty much eat any and everything...just not raw ground beef.

I definitely paused when I saw that pic, too. That's a realistic looking bite out of that concoction. I figured you either were eating it or were committed enough to the bit to actually take a bite from it - both scenarios deserve a high level of respect. lol

 

[4Drago]

252 this morning. I have the most beautiful and lean "turtle shell" abs this side of the Mississippi!
Turning from lean bulk to cut is a very hard decision lol. Maybe I'll try for 260lbs. I mean I still have at least 8 wks on this cycle lol.

 

[phenominal34]

252 this morning. I have the most beautiful and lean "turtle shell" abs this side of the Mississippi!
Turning from lean bulk to cut is a very hard decision lol. Maybe I'll try for 260lbs. I mean I still have at least 8 wks on this cycle lol.

I say go to the cut, being in your 50’s and carrying a lot of weight is not good for your organs. You have a nice build now drop the lbs, cut up and focus on health and longevity. Size is for the youth.

 

[Dang-1]

Looking great man, great to see progress like this for us older guys. I agree on starting the cut, I’m 45 so a bit behind you but every extra pound you don’t need definitely stresses the organs. I started mine cut awhile back and now ive only got 14 lbs more to go before I return to my pre bulk 10%

 

[4Drago]

Alright I figured out my tren tolerance. Initially in the cycle I was doing 50mg daily. Had to stop the tren due to panic attacks pretty early on. After about a week or so of getting it out of my system I started it back up at 10mg ed, titrating up all the way to 40mg. Slight anxiety so brought it back to 30mg ed. This worked great for another few weeks. Now recently my appetite has all but crashed.

So removed the tren again and replaced it with npp. Appetite is starting to come back. Lesson learned is that from now on, if I use tren a again, tren will be used for only 6 weeks max at 30mg ed. My experience says that when the appetite drops its because my liver/body is over taxed and giving me a warning.

I'm gonna finish off the next 6-8 weeks with test p 100mg, mast p 150mg, and npp 100mg ed. Aromasin 25mg eod as well to help cover the addition of npp. Little higher on the dosages but I wanna finish strong before I go into trt. I feel amazing, best pumps ever, just need to get over 253lbs (5'9"). Lost some fat, which is amazing considering how much I've been eating. If I could just eat more! I've been cramming down an extra protein shake with a cup of peanut butter every night before bed. I know it probably sounds weird, but I wake up every morning about 4am with a crazy fully body pump and some morning wood...which is always welcome. Let's me know my e2 levels are still decent.
I'll post final pics or sooner. Then it's trt until March, dependant upon good blood work results of course.

 

[4Drago]

Appetite has still gone to complete crap. It just turned off like a switch. Down to 249lbs. Still 6 weeks to go. Might have to resort delta 8. I really hate smoking that crap daily. Might be more mental then anything. The massive eating part has always been difficult for me for long periods. Kinda looking forward to at least an 8 week cruise now. Looks like next blast is gonna be a cut for sure.

 

[Fattyone]

Appetite has still gone to complete crap. It just turned off like a switch. Down to 249lbs. Still 6 weeks to go. Might have to resort delta 8. I really hate smoking that crap daily. Might be more mental then anything. The massive eating part has always been difficult for me for long periods. Kinda looking forward to at least an 8 week cruise now. Looks like next blast is gonna be a cut for sure.

If you’re at a point where you’re genuinely having trouble getting the calories, add some easy “dirty” ones aka tasty ones.

As to the peanut butter shake, my once go to in a similar situation was:

2 cups whole milk, 1/3 (maybe1/2?) cup steel cut oats, few scoops of
Peanut butter and a scoop of protein powder blended really good in a quality blender. It was roughly ~1,000 calories and went down easy.

Also no shame in using sauces. That boring chicken breast can gain 200 calories easy with some chikfilet sauce. That rice slides down easy with some olive oil.

 

[4Drago]

If you’re at a point where you’re genuinely having trouble getting the calories, add some easy “dirty” ones aka tasty ones.

As to the peanut butter shake, my once go to in a similar situation was:

2 cups whole milk, 1/3 (maybe1/2?) cup steel cut oats, few scoops of
Peanut butter and a scoop of protein powder blended really good in a quality blender. It was roughly ~1,000 calories and went down easy.

Also no shame in using sauces. That boring chicken breast can gain 200 calories easy with some chikfilet sauce. That rice slides down easy with some olive oil.

Thanks for the ideas. Ya I'm gonna be force feeding myself for a bit it looks like. I usually love the carb load days. Gotta at least get my protein and your right...more crap. I could only down 2 cheese burgers yesterday and had to finish the other 2 for breakfast.

 

[Fattyone]

Thanks for the ideas. Ya I'm gonna be force feeding myself for a bit it looks like. I usually love the carb load days. Gotta at least get my protein and your right...more crap. I could only down 2 cheese burgers yesterday and had to finish the other 2 for breakfast.

Don’t be afraid to start early too. It helps me. My first meal is at 5:15am and last one around 7:45pm

 

[4Drago]

Not crazy happy with my upper body progress. But here's a pic of me getting ready for the tanning booth. No pump, non workout day. I don't think I'll be going over 5'9" 253lbs this cycle. Only got till end of November then back to cruise for a few months. Starting in Feb I'll do a new cycle. This one will be for a cut. First few weeks will be getting back glycogen into the muscle then cut. I'm gonna shoot for 10%bf.

 

[4Drago]

I'm over 50 so I'm not to crazy about doing any mega dosage cycles anymore. I'll just have to be happy with what I got and get lean.

 

[Jickzer]

Not crazy happy with my upper body progress. But here's a pic of me getting ready for the tanning booth. No pump, non workout day. I don't think I'll be going over 5'9" 253lbs this cycle. Only got till end of November then back to cruise for a few months. Starting in Feb I'll do a new cycle. This one will be for a cut. First few weeks will be getting back glycogen into the muscle then cut. I'm gonna shoot for 10%bf. View attachment 270306View attachment 270307View attachment 270308

It looks like you've made some really good gains in your shoulders and arms, pecks too.

 

[4Drago]

It looks like you've made some really good gains in your shoulders and arms, pecks too.

Thanks. I'm really limited on what exercises I can do anymore. You can see my cane off to the right in my leg shot haha. But I'm not giving up. Things are just harder.

 

[Jickzer]

Thanks. I'm really limited on what exercises I can do anymore. You can see my cane off to the right in my leg shot haha. But I'm not giving up. Things are just harder.

That's awesome, I let myself go until I had back surgery, I guess there's no excuses if you're determined. Pain or no pain.

 

[Trainedbytylerlofthouse19]

@4Drago you Alpha dog bro!!

Look phenomenal for your age huge respect to you.

 

[4Drago]

@4Drago you Alpha dog bro!!

Look phenomenal for your age huge respect to you.

Thanks bro

 

[4Drago]

Alright just decided to end my cycle. It's been just short of 3 months (12wks). Now down to 140mg sust and 100mg mast e a week. Looking to start another cycle in Feb if blood work is good to go.

 

[Trainedbytylerlofthouse19]

Alright just decided to end my cycle. It's been just short of 3 months (12wks). Now down to 140mg sust and 100mg mast e a week. Looking to start another cycle in Feb if blood work is good to go.

How do you find Mast at such a low dose.

I was told 250mg a week wouldn't do much but I can tell I'm looking alot drier so curious as to what you see from it.

 

[4Drago]

How do you find Mast at such a low dose.

I was told 250mg a week wouldn't do much but I can tell I'm looking alot drier so curious as to what you see from it.

I brew my own. I love it. Reduces subcutaneous water and helps free up free test. I've had nothing but a good response using it with test. Great BP readings the whole time was on it as well. During cycle I used it at 700mg-1050mg bepending on test dose. I liked it 1.1 or a little higher then test. By midway thru cycle I was doing 100mg test p 100mg mast p 100mg npp ed, 25mg aromisin eod as well. I kept changing dose to find that perfect spot after dropping tren. Ran the cycle pretty high toward the end but side effects where minimal.
Mast p or e will be in all my future cycles! Water retention is so easy to control. BP at my age is a big deal and this was the ticket!