First Cycle At 18 Years Old

[theprodgicalson]

Ah, to be 18 and arrogant. How I miss those days. I'd personally take @ironwill1951 advice. I always take advice from people who have been doing this for some time. In wills case, I'm sure it's longer than you've been alive. Good luck in your endeavors!

 

[Noah_Brah]

Ah, to be 18 and arrogant. How I miss those days. I'd personally take @ironwill1951 advice. I always take advice from people who have been doing this for some time. In wills case, I'm sure it's longer than you've been alive. Good luck in your endeavors!

Not trying to be arrogant, its just this is after a full cycle log, so theres no sense in telling me "don't run juice man you're too young" i already made up my mind about running it. Im just trying to be as safe as can be now. hence why I'm coming on this board and asking the experienced users for advice.

I do apologize for asking for a source though, not the right place

 

[Ozzy619]

Wow how in the fuck did I miss this thread. Plateaus at 18, Lance Bass haircut... priceless.

 

[ShredMN]

Wow how in the fuck did I miss this thread. Plateaus at 18, Lance Bass haircut... priceless.

Hahaha, likewise...

This thread is a grade-A example why teenagers should NOT cycle.

You didn't log anything on here either, you gave everyone material to laugh at and reminded other young people why they shouldn't be using gear at your age.

You should have tried "to be as safe as can be" before jumping the gun and starting your cycle while you were ill-prepared.

You can't even figure out your diet, much-less figure out how to properly and safely run a cycle. Eating 200g a protein a day isn't going to cut it... You need calories as well as your other macronutrients, not just protein.

Go back to the drawing board, start meticulously writing down everything you eat, including your calories and macros, until you get a feel for how much food it's going to take to reach the amount of calories/macros you're aiming at. You'll never win any competitions by simply "winging it" with your diet and training.

The fact that you dabbled with the idea that you wanted to throw in Deca at week five speaks for itself as to how ill-informed you actually were on the gear portion of your cycle.

I can foresee you running a 19-nor compound without actually knowing anything about it and having a limp dick, then wondering why you can't get an erection.

 

[ShredMN]

This is a great reason that justifies steroids being illegal... Because every tom, dick and harry that is a teenager and hits artificial "plateaus" is going to start juicing, fuck themselves up for good, wonder why they lost so much of their gains during and after PCT, and then end up dieing at a young age either from serious health complications or suicide.

You didn't hit a plateau at 18 years old and 170 lbs, you just have no idea what you're actually doing and gained what you did from your already extremely high levels of testosterone because of your age.

You even went as far as mentioning "cell tech" like that will help you gain anything at all. If most guys mentioned cell tech on here I'd assume they were being very sarcastic, but I have a sneaking suspicion you are dead serious.

 

[Noah_Brah]

This is a great reason that justifies steroids being illegal... Because every tom, dick and harry that is a teenager and hits artificial "plateaus" is going to start juicing, fuck themselves up for good, wonder why they lost so much of their gains during and after PCT, and then end up dieing at a young age either from serious health complications or suicide.

You didn't hit a plateau at 18 years old and 170 lbs, you just have no idea what you're actually doing and gained what you did from your already extremely high levels of testosterone because of your age.

You even went as far as mentioning "cell tech" like that will help you gain anything at all. If most guys mentioned cell tech on here I'd assume they were being very sarcastic, but I have a sneaking suspicion you are dead serious.

cell tech was a joke big guy, and from your avi looks like you don't know what you're talking about. I actually listened to these guys and upped my protein to 300gs a day and started seeing gains.

Teenager having "extremely high testosterone", teen males produce at 100-150 mg a week at most.

 

[Oregongearhead]

cell tech was a joke big guy, and from your avi looks like you don't know what you're talking about. I actually listened to these guys and upped my protein to 300gs a day and started seeing gains.

Teenager having "extremely high testosterone", teen males produce at 100-150 mg a week at most.

Which is exactly why you dont need AAS right now . You are too young and you dont need it , it will be 6 yrs or so before you complete your maturity cycle , do hormones now and you will lose that natural testosterone and kill your natural testosterone production .

You dont want to have to pin yourself every week at your age , it sucks - I know . But I was also 50 before I needed TRT ....Get off the gear and save it for 6 yrs when you can fully utilize it . ~Ogh

 

[ironwill1951]

no actually your the big joke...you come on here looking for advice on using steroids safely , every member that knows what they are doing has told you
your to young , but by god you know more than all of us,, your a funkin punk kid who wont listen if you were my kid i would take you behind the wood shed and teach you to respect your elders.
you will get no advice from me except to quit, but then with your years of experience and vast knowledge of AAS you dont need our advice...

 

[Oregongearhead]

Which is exactly why you dont need AAS right now . You are too young and you dont need it , it will be 6 yrs or so before you complete your maturity cycle , do hormones now and you will lose that natural testosterone and kill your natural testosterone production .

You dont want to have to pin yourself every week at your age , it sucks - I know . But I was also 50 before I needed TRT ....Get off the gear and save it for 6 yrs when you can fully utilize it . ~Ogh

I want to add you have a nice natural build ; you should consider natural bodybuilding for a few more yrs , enter some natural contests , get some experience ---then juice if you are still into it ....

 

[daledd]

Listen son, nobody here is going to offer you a source. Not only because you're too young, but also because almost all ugl gear is underdosed or bunk. Nobody is willing to risk their reputation. This forum is not like all other forums where people will try to push their sources on you in hopes of getting freebies themselves, or god forgive mods that have been bribed trying to convince you that their source is "pharma". Do some research, look for a source with a decent rep and good communication (in case the gear is bad you can demand a refund if you get bloods/labmax) and decide based on that. Good luck.

 

[Noah_Brah]

Listen son, nobody here is going to offer you a source. Not only because you're too young, but also because almost all ugl gear is underdosed or bunk. Nobody is willing to risk their reputation. This forum is not like all other forums where people will try to push their sources on you in hopes of getting freebies themselves, or god forgive mods that have been bribed trying to convince you that their source is "pharma". Do some research, look for a source with a decent rep and good communication (in case the gear is bad you can demand a refund if you get bloods/labmax) and decide based on that. Good luck.

Hey thanks for the legitimate advice

 

[ShredMN]

cell tech was a joke big guy, and from your avi looks like you don't know what you're talking about. I actually listened to these guys and upped my protein to 300gs a day and started seeing gains.

Teenager having "extremely high testosterone", teen males produce at 100-150 mg a week at most.

More ignorance... Once again, there is more to nutrition than protein, something which you clearly don't understand... Did you know any excess protein you consume turns into glycogen and is stored in your liver? There is absolutely no reason to go over-board on protein intake.

My avatar is also half a year old! Also, notice the lighting difference between our two pictures? The lighting in your picture is taken in low-light, whereas mine is in a room with more lights than that on an airport runway... I currently weigh 220lbs, but thanks for trying to discredit my insight with an attack on a picture... Your age is showing, brother.

Go back to the bodybuilding.com forums where you belong. Arrogance is not needed here.

 

[daledd]

Its true protein is waaaay overrated in natural lifting. Fats are the most underrated, a good amount of healthy fats from good sources everyday will raise your natural test and enable you to gain more muscle.

 

[ShredMN]

Its true protein is waaaay overrated in natural lifting. Fats are the most underrated, a good amount of healthy fats from good sources everyday will raise your natural test and enable you to gain more muscle.

^ This!!!

Eat more fat! Both saturated and unsaturated fat. The only fat athletes should stay away from is trans-fat. Fat is nature's dietary testosterone booster.

The only reason you made "gains" with 300g of protein wasn't from the protein itself, it was from the extra calories you were taking in from said increased protein intake. Once again, OP needs to go back to the drawing board and get his diet figured out before using more gear.

 

[Xlgx]

GOMAD or 1/2 GOMAD is your answer

 

[ShredMN]

Shit, I tend to drink a half gallon of organic whole milk a day because I love the way it tastes... And I love the fact that I'm drinking a substance from something that looks like this, it secretly gets me off.

 

[Xlgx]

I envy you. Wish they sold raw milk in the city. I hear it tastes amazing compared to the regular stuff

 

[ShredMN]

I can't buy raw milk in MN legally either, it makes me pretty sad... I don't know any farmers that would sell it to me either, even though I live in a farm town. Not only that, but I'd have to know the farmer real well, and know everything he does to ensure sterility before I'd trust his raw milk.

It's kind of like buying UGL gear off the black market. At the moment I just stick to store bought organic whole milk. I've flirted with the idea of buying some goats to have for pets to play with my greyhound, and for free milk.

 

[Oregongearhead]

Ah, to be 18 and arrogant. How I miss those days. I'd personally take @ironwill1951 advice. I always take advice from people who have been doing this for some time. In wills case, I'm sure it's longer than you've been alive. Good luck in your endeavors!

Same here , except I listened to the old guys at the local YMCA when I was 18 and didnt touch juice until I was 26 , by then I already had a rock solid build . And then it was just a few deca and Dbol cycles , no test ,no PCT , it was the 80"s ,lol. I didnt do test until 5 yrs ago .

 

[daledd]

Raw milk is the only milk you should be drinking. A cow is only supposed to give milk after birth. And then, a cow only gives 2-3 liters a day. Do you know how much a milk cow gives? (milk you find in the store) about 30-40 liters. This is not natural and definately not healthy!!