First cycle....emergency room!

[Hypertrophiac]

you dont need 22g needles....save yourself the scar tissue. stick with 25g bro, just about everything will fit thru a 25g. even sust or deca will if you run the syringe under hot water for about a minute before you shoot it. when you warm the oil it gets thinner.

 

[Grim]

I realise this is an old thread, but anyone suffering panic attacks will read it.

I used to smoke a lot of hash untill I had a real nasty panic attack about 4 years ago. I was living in Japan at the time, training like a mofo and working very long hours so stress levels were pretty high.

The attack was the worst experience ever, worse than breaking bones or slipping disks. Mine was pretty severe, it came on after I was really wasted and ended up with me passing out on the floor. Looking back on it now it is apparant that it was caused by a number of factors.

1) High stess levels
2) Forced insomnia and sleep deprivation
and most importantly...
3) Hyper ventilation while stoned

I have read up a lot of information on this subject since it happened and have come accross numerous articles regarding cannabis and its negative effects on mental health. According to a number of articles, there are higher number of panic attacks and anxiety among pot smokers. It can also bring on schizophrenia amongst those who may have an underlying problem.

Anyway, it took about a year for it to pass for me. The doc put me on valium but I figured that would only cause its on problems so I rode it out myself. I felt that if I started using other medications as a critch I would just end up believeing I had some kind of mental problem.

Hyper ventilation has brought on the old feeling a few times since and the doctor told me that it is the most common trigger, causing the "flight fight response mechanism". So if any of you guys feel like you are about to have a heart attack and die, just do what they do in the Woody Allen movies and stick a paper bag over your mouth. It works (by reducing the level of oxygen intake).

As far as the tickly lungs go, I had the same thing 2 or 3 times in my hay day. You might have a chest infection in the pipeline, it could also be smokers cough (I had it pretty bad and I never smoked cigs). If you love the bud so much, just cut it down to once a month, it makes a huge difference to clarity of thought, sex drive and general health.

Just my 2 cents

G

 

[billydidit]

you dont need 22g needles....save yourself the scar tissue. stick with 25g bro, just about everything will fit thru a 25g. even sust or deca will if you run the syringe under hot water for about a minute before you shoot it. when you warm the oil it gets thinner.

I don't mind the needles, but I would have bought 25g if the pharmacy had any. Next time I will go with a 25g. I like knowing that I am not going to break a needle off in my glute or quad. Thanks for the advice.

-bj

 

[billydidit]

Thanks for taking the time to tell your experiences and give me advice (Starkraven, Hypertrophiac, and Grim). Makes me feel better about my situation.

I am going to do my best to quit with the weed. Now that I look back I can see that there are negative effects to long term pot use as much as I don't want to admit it. Mood swings, anxiety, and paranoia have been building over the past three years. I did have many reasons to be stressed...child custody battle, first time home purchase, leaving the love of my life to marry the mother of my children (cheaper than divorce and screwed up kids)...I have abused weed for 12 years now almost every day. I guess that it is time to stop or at least try to phase it out.

By the way, it did not take a genius to figure out that it was not deca. I shot that crap many times and within 30 minutes I was having major medical problems. I have some friends who compete and they said that it was junk and no need to spend cash to get it tested. Deca is not felt that fast.

As fas as the panic attacks... this SSRI that I am taking keeps things in check. I plan to get off the meds as soon as I can. I want to be able to function without them, but I may have to take them because I suffer from depression.

Right now life is good. Low stress. Beautiful family and a brand new home!

Later dudes!

-bj

 

[tonyton]

I am new to the scene here but I have a buddy at work that helped me get signed up. I was hoping that someone might be able to give me some information about an unpleasant experience I had on my first cycle.

I ordered Deca (8 - 2cc - 200mg vials). They were legit from what my doctor tells me. Organon with the yellow top. My plan was an eight week cycle. 200mg per week, since my receptors are so fresh, seemed appropriate.

I had a friend inject me (I am famialiar with the correct way to do this and can do it myself with no problems) with 2cc/200mg. Right after I sat down to play some video games and smoke some bud. After about two hours I started feeling overwhelmed. I stood up and felt as if I was going to pass out. I thought that I was going to have a heart attack and that I had made a major mistake. My buddy drove me to the emergency room and dropped me off. I actually thought I was going to die.

My heart rate was 130 bpm and my blood pressure was 170/110. Normally my resting pulse is 50-60 bpm and my blood pressure is 130/80. They released me without doing anything and I went out and puked in the parking lot and was having the worst time of my life. No joke. I went back in and the gave me atetinol to lower my blood pressure and slow my heart rate.

I went to see my doctor the next day and he said I have an anxiety disorder and gave me clonazepam to prevent panic attacks. So I decided to continue with the Deca at 50mg every 3 days. I noticed that I would feel the same each time I injected but the medication kept me under control. I did notice strength in the gym after the third week big time. But these so called "panic attacks" were so bad that I just threw it all away. It took a looooong time before I felt normal again.

Does anyone know what the hell was happening to me?

Symptoms: Irregular heart beat, fast heart beat, fear, faint feeling, sick feeling, feeling like i was going to die, sweating a pool in bed at night and poor sleep. I have recently had another episode. I stopped smoking bud and started with some vitamins and now I feel pretty good.

I am about to start a cycle of Winstrol 50mg per day (pills). Should I expect the same reaction? I have heard that deca is not good for everyone and I thought that Winstrol might work for me.

Before I start hopefully one of you will be able to give me some advice/answers.

Sorry this message was so long, but I really need some advice.

Thanks,

billydidit

EDITED:
Mr. Billy, no one wants to read your message in Bold, extra large font. I've taken the liberty of returning your post to normal.
It would be appreciated if you wouldn't do this in the future.
MaxRep

U had a panic attack...I dunno what the other bros have said..I dint read any other reply...weed usually triggers off panic attacks...I think your mind is playin tricks on u and I def think that u should not smoke for a while.....just chill for now with the aas.,....get your head on straight and u will be ok...once u feel confortable doing aas again u should do alot more research before u partake in any use of aas...Knowledge will either make u feel more at ease or stear u away to the use of pro-hormones....either way feel better.