First Cycle ever Test P and Test E

[flex001]

I get so confused by your posts bro. Your intial T levels were 238. You ran a cycle and expected them to rebound or increase somehow. Now you feel like shit again which I suppose your T is low again and you're looking at your next cycle?? If you have low T and aren't on some kind of HRT (Low dose Test, HCG or Clomid. ..etc) after each cycle you run, I'd expect you to lose most if not all of your gains. Looks like your levels aren't rebounding or increasing after PCT.

 

[Beergut75]

I get so confused by your posts bro. Your intial T levels were 238. You ran a cycle and expected them to rebound or increase somehow. Now you feel like shit again which I suppose your T is low again and you're looking at your next cycle?? If you have low T and aren't on some kind of HRT (Low dose Test, HCG or Clomid. ..etc) after each cycle you run, I'd expect you to lose most if not all of your gains. Looks like your levels aren't rebounding or increasing after PCT.

I'm still on Clomid and Tamoxifene. I have quit taking HCG but could easily add it back in if you think that would help. I have labs scheduled in 2 weeks and I will be able to get solid numbers then. If my numbers are low (which I suspect they are unfortunately) I will go on a low dose for HRT forever I guess. I am losing weight now on purpose by doing crazy amounts of cardio and only eating 1300-1500 calories a day mostly protein. (I'm getting sick of Tuna).

I don't mean to confuse you and I appreciate your input. I am a little lost. My hope was that prior to my cycle I was drinking too much and stressed etc which caused my T to be low. I was hoping my body could rebound.

 

[flex001]

I'm still on Clomid and Tamoxifene. I have quit taking HCG but could easily add it back in if you think that would help. I have labs scheduled in 2 weeks and I will be able to get solid numbers then. If my numbers are low (which I suspect they are unfortunately) I will go on a low dose for HRT forever I guess. I am losing weight now on purpose by doing crazy amounts of cardio and only eating 1300-1500 calories a day mostly protein. (I'm getting sick of Tuna).

I don't mean to confuse you and I appreciate your input. I am a little lost. My hope was that prior to my cycle I was drinking too much and stressed etc which caused my T to be low. I was hoping my body could rebound.

If you're still taking Clomid & Tamox and feel like shit, sounds like you simply have low T. After PCT, you could try running HCG by itself for awhile to see what it does. Some docs prescribe HCG as a form of HRT. Getting bloodwork though is the only true way to know what to consider next.

With your current workout and diet though, you could potentially be overtraining your body which may also be the culprit.