First cycle help.

wk3supreme

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I’m a 33 yo male, 5’9” 180lbs, I lift consistently on a 6 on 1 off split and have done so for about a year after a long break. My goal is to gain more muscle mass with an oral cycle without going too far too fast. I’d like to see some gains, and get a feel for trt. I do still work full time so I don’t want this to have a negative effect my mental, or trash my test production permanently if I decide not to continue after one cycle. How do I decide what orals I stack? Is an estrogen blocker necessary and if so, what and how much? And finally what do I do for pct with orals, or is it even necessary? Is there like a tried and true beginners oral cycle/plan to go with as a start? Please help me plan this out so I do this safely and don’t have any permanent physical or hormonal damage. Thanks for any feedback
 
For the love of god, don't do an oral cycle. Copy and paste the name of your thread in the search bar and you'll find tons of information.

Also, there is no safe way to take steroids; there is risk mitigation, but not prevention. One cycle is extremely unlikely to permanently crash your natural production, but that is of course still a possibility you have to accept.
 
Have you had a blood test?

I'm 37, my test came back at 251.

At that point, figured I'd be on trt rest of my life, so that changed my outlook for a blast a bit.
 
I have a complete physical coming up. Are there any specifics I should ask about? Is 251 low or high? And by changed your outlook do you mean if you start you couldn’t stop, so you’re hesitant? Full disclosure, I’ve been reading a wide variety of threads on here and I’m realizing how little I know and how fucking complicated this is. I was hoping someone would just say “this is what you should get and this is how you should use it”. I do want to do this as safely as possible if that’s even a thing, but the more I read the less I know and more questions I have. Faaaahck
 
Ah man if your not going to just inject Test I can't advise.. Never ever would I recommend oral use unless your competitive bodybuild/powerlifter..

These drugs are used for fast changes while already on cycle.. You need beginner cycle of Test only 400mg weekly.. This will see you make great progress in your lifting, given your diet is ready to accomadate some new muscle..

And also your not gunna be hit with such a big hormone crash like you would on orals.. You will feel so run down by end of cycle then you try to maintain any gains made it's not gunna happen..

Majority will agree to some degree..
 
I have a complete physical coming up. Are there any specifics I should ask about? Is 251 low or high? And by changed your outlook do you mean if you start you couldn’t stop, so you’re hesitant? Full disclosure, I’ve been reading a wide variety of threads on here and I’m realizing how little I know and how fucking complicated this is. I was hoping someone would just say “this is what you should get and this is how you should use it”. I do want to do this as safely as possible if that’s even a thing, but the more I read the less I know and more questions I have. Faaaahck
Do your own bloodwork man.

Get a complete men hormone panel from somewhere like Private MD labs. They have testing locations all over the country.

"Normal" test range is like 250 to 1,100.

Mine was 251.

I knew it'd be low because I always felt like shit.

Once the test confirmed it, I realized I'd be on trt /150-300mg test per week for the rest of my life.
So I stopped caring about suppressing natural test production and "cycle", because my natural test production is shit, and I'm old.

So I'll be "blasting" on more than trt dose and "cruising" on trt dose.

That's just me. Do your own research and be informed about what your doing.
 
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