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gainsforyourgirl said:
Yo my bad man I was away this weekend!
Thanks John, I feel like that is a really good idea! I'm going to post my initial blood work on this post sometime this week or next week, whenever my results come in. I want to see if you guys have any other ideas once you are seeing what I am seeing. I will definitely run Dbol on my second cycle if the first one goes good! Do you think 4 weeks would be enough for dbol though?
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4 to 6 weeks is the sweet spot never more then 6 weeks as its harsh as fuck on the liver people literally just use it until the oil starts kicking in and that's around 4/5 weeks bud :)
 
Johndoe said:
4 to 6 weeks is the sweet spot never more then 6 weeks as its harsh as fuck on the liver people literally just use it until the oil starts kicking in and that's around 4/5 weeks bud :)
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Yea I've read about how bad it is for the liver, that was another concern because of my past drinking habit lol but well see where I'm at after the first run and if all is good, then ill give it a run! Thanks John, I'll keep you updated!
 
gainsforyourgirl said:
Yea I've read about how bad it is for the liver, that was another concern because of my past drinking habit lol but well see where I'm at after the first run and if all is good, then ill give it a run! Thanks John, I'll keep you updated!
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Man its important u stay away from booze while your running the orals.... I don't even fuck with soda .... I have a few times and within 20 minutes I can feel my muscles cramping up...
 
Ryno1980 said:
Man its important u stay away from booze while your running the orals.... I don't even fuck with soda .... I have a few times and within 20 minutes I can feel my muscles cramping up...
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I second this d Bol is bad with booze but try running nap 50s and booze Jesus Christ that shit will put you down to the floor with in 1 beer
 
gainsforyourgirl said:
What's up brothers, I am looking to start my first cycle within the next few weeks and I am in need of a little advice. I have been doing some research over the past couple months, and let me just say, I definitely don't know it all lol. I have some knowledge of AAS usage but a little more advice couldn't hurt. So just in case you haven't seen my new member intro I'm 24, 5'11, 185 lbs, BMI 26, BFP 13%. Before I start posting about any cycle, I want to clarify that I will be getting blood work done next week to determine all my levels before my cycle. I will also get bloods again mid way through and after full cycle including PCT. So now I am going to post 2 separate cycles,(obviously I'm only going to run one) but my objective is to see which cycle you bros prefer, and see the changes you guys would make, add ons, take outs, whatever, the whole 9. I am deathly afraid of getting gyno, that is why I want to run such a low test dose on either cycle, and especially on the Dbol cycle. So anything you guys might have to help, would be greatly appreciated. Note, this is my first time using any type of AAS. *Also i don't know if I am prone to gyno or anything, I just really don't wanna wake up one day with tits. *Reason for test e dose so low. If you think I should bump it up or whatever you guys think, just let me know please! Thanks in advance!

Cycle one: Test E + Anavar - 10 weeks
week 1-10 200mg test E (split 100mg mon/thur) -maybe 400mg split 200? idk
week 1-6 Anavar 80mg ED
week 2-10 arimidex .5mg EOD or .25mg EOD ??
week 13-16 (PCT) clomid 50/50/50/25 nolva 40/30/20/10
also I was thinking of taking creatine throughout the whole cycle at 5-10g ED ?

OR

Cycle two: Test E + Dbol - 10 weeks
week 1-10 200mg test E (split 100mg mon/thur) -maybe 400mg split 200? idk
week 1-4 Dbol 20mg ED for first 2 weeks/ 40mg ED for last 2 weeks
week 1-10 arimidex .5mg EOD or .25mg EOD ??
week 13-16 (PCT) clomid 50/50/50/25 nolva 40/30/20/10 (or should this be more cause dbol?)
I will also have letro on hand just in case I do feel some gyno.

So basically I want to know which cycle you guys think I should start with, my purpose is to get bigger and stronger. I am not in competitive body building, nor do I really care for a 6 pack. I just want to look better overall for myself, and I start football in about a year, so i have time, but time flies! So I know my cycles aren't even close to perfect, that is why I am posting this to get any and all info, good or bad. My Dbol cycle plan, I know is flawed, so I would really appreciate the feedback! Also if gyno does occur, will letro stop it in its tracks? How much letro would I need to take? Also is there any other OCT product you recommend for either cycle? As for PCT, would it be good to take clomid and nolva ED together? *Note for almost 3 years I was heavily drinking daily, and Ive done my fair share of booger sugar as well. Thank you again to everyone who reads this. Meso you are the best!

-gainsforyourgirl
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I've never been a fan of running anything but test for a first cycle. Anavar would be worthless for you and why fuk with d-bol at this point. Run the test e for 10 weeks at 400mg split into 2x a week pins. If you feel great midway through bump it to 500mg. Sides for this dosage should be minimal if any at all. Have your AI on hand but again you may not even need it. This amount for a first cycle should produce significant results. Eat your protein man.
 
hurricane said:
Never mind booze completely fucks your bodies ability to handle excess estrogen. Booze on cycle=bad fukin idea.
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Haha I have no drank in many a year if you want to be a true body builder it's nearly impossible to do both especially when cutting if your a heavy drinker etc people say oo it don't affect the body that much... But taking two days off of training because of a hang over sure bloody does lol!
 
hurricane said:
I've never been a fan of running anything but test for a first cycle. Anavar would be worthless for you and why fuk with d-bol at this point. Run the test e for 10 weeks at 400mg split into 2x a week pins. If you feel great midway through bump it to 500mg. Sides for this dosage should be minimal if any at all. Have your AI on hand but again you may not even need it. This amount for a first cycle should produce significant results. Eat your protein man.
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I agree that a test only cycle is gonna kick ass by its self... I guess I'm just bias because I did run both and to date it's my favorite cycle I've ever run... ofcourse being the first one, it could have been test only and probably still would have been my favorite one... lol...
 
Ryno1980 said:
Man its important u stay away from booze while your running the orals.... I don't even fuck with soda .... I have a few times and within 20 minutes I can feel my muscles cramping up...
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I haven't drank soda in years, and I haven't been drinking any booze for a little while now. I don't plan on drinking any either, there will be plenty of time for that later on! Now is time for gains (:
 
hurricane said:
I've never been a fan of running anything but test for a first cycle. Anavar would be worthless for you and why fuk with d-bol at this point. Run the test e for 10 weeks at 400mg split into 2x a week pins. If you feel great midway through bump it to 500mg. Sides for this dosage should be minimal if any at all. Have your AI on hand but again you may not even need it. This amount for a first cycle should produce significant results. Eat your protein man.
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Thanks hurricane! My meal plan is pretty solid at this point, yea i've decided the anavar isnt worth it on my first cycle, and the dbol is on the back burner right now. I'm looking at just 10 weeks of test for my first cycle. Ill make sure I have everything I need before I start. I'm hoping I dont run into any problems at all, I'll keep this thread updated throughout the cycle. I'm hoping for at least some decent gains my first run at it!
 
gainsforyourgirl said:
Thanks hurricane! My meal plan is pretty solid at this point, yea i've decided the anavar isnt worth it on my first cycle, and the dbol is on the back burner right now. I'm looking at just 10 weeks of test for my first cycle. Ill make sure I have everything I need before I start. I'm hoping I dont run into any problems at all, I'll keep this thread updated throughout the cycle. I'm hoping for at least some decent gains my first run at it!
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If your diet is on point you should see significant gains on a first cycle. I gained 24lbs on my first cycle at 500 mg a week. Just bust your ass and the gains will come. Keep us posted.
 
hurricane said:
If your diet is on point you should see significant gains on a first cycle. I gained 24lbs on my first cycle at 500 mg a week. Just bust your ass and the gains will come. Keep us posted.
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It may need a few tweaks but for the most part, it's pretty solid. That's the plan! For sure bro i'll keep everyone up to date!
 
UPDATE BROTHER.... Keep involved in your thread and things will be much easier, even if your just letting us know your still on track!
 
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