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First Cycle plans, looking forward to all of your guidance (pic)

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wejustgotempd

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Planning on getting on dat dere soon after learning more

here's where im currently at after about 3 1/2 years of training 5'9 160 lbs in the pic am currently 165 lbs trying to bulk to 175 natty.

my first cycle plan

just test cyp or E 500mg/week about 12 weeks following 12 week pct with nolva and arimidex

im still searching for a good source was gonna do DSG labs (i think that's how you spell it) but after reading recent comments about how sometimes his batch can be completely wrong im not gonna go that route. Also contemplating on asking a guy at my gym who competes if he can help me take my physique to the next level but im skeptical if he will help. I appreciate any feedback source advice cycling advice etc i also plan on keeping a log for my cycle journey for you guys to view IMG_2014.JPG


not sure why the pic came out all orange it was fine on my phone
 
There is a general consensus that guys should not use gear until 25.
The reasoning is that your endocrine system is still developing, and can be easily screwed up for life.
I hope you choose to go natty for another few years, but if you decide to go for it be careful, conservative, and run a perfect pharma grade PCT.
 
Yea i want to compete as soon as i can in Physique hence why im trying to get on cycle. Im trying to reap as much as i can naturally before getting on but i feel that now is a good time in terms of financially and free time to dedicate everything to. After i compete in physique i want to move up to muscle model level and be around 180-185 competition weight so i know the doses are only gonna get worst from here on out.
 
Northern Nutrition said:
OP,

Did you investigate the reasons why its (AAS use under 25) discouraged here...and everywhere?
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I have in regards to people not coming nearly close to their genetic potential or poor knowledge on training, dieting etc as well as the possible permanent effects it can have on the endocrine. If there's anything else in regards to using under 25 please direct me to that section since when i use the search function a bunch of random threads come up like some guy whose wife found his lab test kit lol.

Since my goal is to compete and win i know that im going to have to get on AAS and i wish to do it as safely as possible the only side im currently worried about is going sterile permanently. I have considered freezing sperm etc for worst case scenario
 
Is there much money on the line? Is there a natty division for you to compete in?

As far as getting advice at your age, I won't offer what little knowledge I have on basic cycles. I think It's a choice you'll regret.
If you wait, HuckingFuge should see this. He will give you some advice. He's one of the few that advocate getting on the gear early and staying on for life.
I wish you luck, stay safe.
 
The problem is even in the natty divisions there is that one guy whose still on just came off early and destroys everyone also in natty divisions there's not much outlet for sponsorship or endorsement opportunities. Also another issue is that the physique i desire unfortunately is out of my scope in terms of what can be achieved naturally. I hope to turn this into a career down the road im currently majoring in exercise science and am going to obtain my bachelors soon as well as getting ACSM certified so i may start building a good foundation to work with. I really appreciate your concern Burrr and will keep you updated through my journey :)
 
natural or on AAS diet and training determine your goals. I'm not a firm believer is Test only cycles or Test in general, but your cycle looks fine. you do not want to run Adex during your PCT, cause Adex reduces the effectiveness of Nolv. if it was me I would run Aromasin during your cycle, Nolv and Aromasin during PCT.
 
HuckingFuge said:
natural or on AAS diet and training determine your goals. I'm not a firm believer is Test only cycles or Test in general, but your cycle looks fine. you do not want to run Adex during your PCT, cause Adex reduces the effectiveness of Nolv. if it was me I would run Aromasin during your cycle, Nolv and Aromasin during PCT.
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may i ask why you don't believe in test only cycles? From what i gathered everyone recommends it to see how your body reacts before you start adding other compounds in your future cycles so you know what causes what sides
 
I'm old and when I started out no one used Testosterone. it wasn't until the late 90's, that people could get a hold of AI/SERM. than Test became the base for cycles Testosterone. even with all the new so called research out I still would not choose Test for a base. you can do what ever you want, it is your body.
 
HuckingFuge said:
I'm old and when I started out no one used Testosterone. it wasn't until the late 90's, that people could get a hold of AI/SERM. than Test became the base for cycles Testosterone. even with all the new so called research out I still would not choose Test for a base. you can do what ever you want, it is your body.
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im always keen for more insight so what would you suggest someone at my age and current level run?
 
Ok so i have finally acquired all of my pieces to the puzzle. I currently have 15 weeks worth of test E (5000) per vial but i only plan on using 12 weeks worth starting at 500mg/week. I plan on injecting Mon/Thurs 250 mg each with a 25g 1.5 inch syringe in the glute. I have Nolvadex and Clomid on hand but i was wondering how i should start the PCT. I have seen all kinds of different numbers for nolva and clomid and was wondering what you guys would suggest. As well as how many weeks to run the PCT
 
I personally would wait 4 weeks after your last injection before starting pct. Clomid 100/100/50/50 nolva 40/40/20/20. Others might say different though. U want all test out before starting pct
 
I'm taking GH for the sole purpose of one day becoming an NBA All-Star Point Guard.

You know like Chris Paul but with the D-Wade GH jaw and Lebron's receding hair line.
 
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