First cycle response so far

[Alpine*]

3 and a half weeks ago I started a cycle on sustanon 250 at 500mg/week. I had a traumatic head injury while injecting because of anxiety and forgetting to breathe. Beginner shit now injecting an ml can be done in about 3 minutes.
Anyway I just wanna quickly discuss results and the few sides I’ve had manifest and what I intend to do in the near future and get your thoughts.

So far I have gained 10kg or about 22lbs, that’s within the first 3 weeks before the testosterone has had a chance to have the esters cleaved off and reach stable serum concentration, however this week I’ve noticed some solid results.
Also can’t neglect to mention that I’ve been taking 20mg/Anavar a day, because I’m very impatient and couldn’t wait, had to “kickstart” my cycle, I don’t this about a week ago.

My strength figures haven’t gone up spectacularly but my endurance has, recovery is sliced in half, on back days my forearms no longer limit me so much as they just don’t give up, they hurt and my forearms swell however I don’t drop the weight like a bitch like I used too, not to mention my girlfriend has noticed an improvement in my grip strength and general sexual performance.

I notice on days without the Anavar the pumps I get are crazy, but on the days with Anavar I fucking swell. I mean I absolutely mutate infront of myself and the lat, trap and shoulder pumps I get actually make it difficult to take my shirt off and this happens on every day even like chest days, everything gets pumped, shit I walk around pumped, I legit grate cheese and get a nutty trIcep pump.

Sides have been strange, facial hair thickness has increased, libido increased, nipples protrude a bit but no sensations or sensitivity, irritability at strangers; I can see someone I’ve never met or spoken too before in my life walking down the street and my mind will just race with like 5 different things I hate about them and call them a bitch, just been the last 2 days that’s happened.
Bit moody, I’d describe the feeling as that of a stroppy teenage boy who couldn’t stay up for another hour after bed, lasts a few seconds and I just shake it off.
Sense of humour is either spiked where I’m laughing at everything to the point where my stomach hurts or nothing is funny and I wanna punch you for talking to me.
All in all I’d say I’m tolerating it okay and the results so far are promising, but here are my speculated plans for the near future.

Get the fuck off sustanon because test prop and tpp hurt too fuckin much, especially on my left glute, I ride a motorcycle so I thought it’d be smart to inject my left glute twice in a week, it swole up like a balloon and I don’t think I’ve been in that much pain before.
A blend of test enan and cyp should work better and it’s about 300mg/ml so I’ll be on 600, I think if 500 is tolerable 600 should be acceptable too.
I’m thinking about swapping Anavar for anadrol for a few week period soon just to push my numbers up because my lifts are a bit grim.
I have an AI on hand, but I’d like to dose primo at 200mg/week to work as an AI and a bit more anabolism. I will hold off as long as I can because if I get intolerable sides while starting primo I likely won’t be able to tell which substance is increasing the sides and how to treat it. So I’m gonna wait about 3 more weeks, hopefully gain another 10kg (22lbs).
Also, bf%, not hasn’t increased much, I went from about 12% to start to about 15% now. I have very favourable body fat distribution it’s all on my glutes (thanks mum).

First photo above was taken before the first injections, next photos were last night. I’m

I’m curious what you all think.

 

[Tonysoprano]

I didn’t have a chance to read all of that, but looks like you’re making some great progress. Keep it up, stay consistent, and get after your goals.


-how ya fuckin doin’

 

[Fattyone]

Damn dude. Did you even have the gym membership before starting steroids?

I hope you’re Atleast not a kid.

 

[Alpine*]

I trained for 2 years naturally, got to about 75kg, but became a chef, stopped training for a year and lost everything but my newbie gains.
My reasoning for steroid use is I love my career, im not willing to work an office 9-5 or something like that, I’m about to turn 22 and I’m unable to make any gains naturally with the hours I do and extensive calorie burning.
I’m able to eat a reasonable amount, a good day is about 3200 but on heavy working days it’ll drop to about 2300 which is not what is required for sustained progress as a natural.
So I looked into using gear and am happy with my decision overall.
Here’s some pictures of me natural 2 years ago at my “peak” where I’d be training for 2 years.
I think aesthetically I’ve already surpassed my natural peak, also strength wise I’m very close to getting back to where I was and I’ll surely surpass that.

 

[Fattyone]

I’m unable to make any gains naturally

Well then get ready to kiss the glycogen gains goodbye once you stop.
If you can’t do it natty, you’re not gonna do it on gear. Nd doing all this at 22 is dumb man. It would be dumb if you were 35, at least then you’re probably close to needing TRT so it wouldn’t be the end of the world if you could never recover. But at 22?? Fuck man.

Hopefully you at least have your PCT drugs and a plan.

 

[Alpine*]

Yeah I’ve got all my ancillaries on hand for when I want to come off.
Call me naive I’m pretty happy to stay on as a cruise essentially until I want kids, basically just run Hcg to spur sperm production and hop back on as soon as she’s pregnant, blood pressure and fertility are my only concerns as testicular cancer and high blood pressure are an issue in my family. I don’t believe my liver or kidneys will be an issue with my compound selection.

My dads also a steroid user and basically any questions I have he has a solution for and has been pretty supportive.

 

[Fattyone]

Yeah I’ve got all my ancillaries on hand for when I want to come off.
Call me naive I’m pretty happy to stay on as a cruise essentially until I want kids, basically just run Hcg to spur sperm production and hop back on as soon as she’s pregnant, blood pressure and fertility are my only concerns as testicular cancer and high blood pressure are an issue in my family. I don’t believe my liver or kidneys will be an issue with my compound selection.

My dads also a steroid user and basically any questions I have he has a solution for and has been pretty supportive.

Cruising at a 22 year old your size is such a mistake man. You WILL regret this at some point.

Also you should go to all the threads we have here of people having issues having kids and tell them to “basically just run HCG”. I know they would appreciate the help.


Obviously you’re not going to change your mind on any of this. So for any other kids readin this PLEASE don’t do this.

Steroids are to enhance the training, nutrition, and recovery you’re already excelling at. It’s not an easy fix for not knowing anything and it should be takin VERY seriously at such a young age.

 

[frenexen]

Holy shit man, you think you hit your natural aethestic limit when you struggle to hit 3k calories? The gear isn’t going to make you gain more muscle with less food. You’re going to need to eat much more, at some point likely double. There is ways to increase hunger, but it sounds like you think you’re just going to gain muscle by eating the same and just introducing steroids into the mix. The orals aren’t going to help there either.

You say you’re only worried about blood pressure and cancer…such a naive way of thinking. Have you even considered cholesterol and cardiovascular disease? Your lipids are already fucked from the orals. And if you plan to stay on steroids for the rest of your life, which is what you’re hinting at, then you won’t live a long one if those are the only sides effects you have considered.

 

[Alpine*]

I don’t take peoples warnings lightly.
My goal is a pretty clean 85kg. I think that’s attainable since that’s what my dads sitting at and he’s currently off and has been off for about a year, we’re the same height, skeletal structure etc.

So I’ve taken all of your points and I’m gonna sit with them and evaluate what I’m gonna do, since this is a serious game with real consequences, and it’s nearly impossible to go into this knowing everything so I’m glad that I have critical people to critique me and the gaps in my considerations.

I will have some pretty serious time off from middle to end of next year.
I’m gonna do some extra serious research on lipids, cholesterol, diet and how it relates and more.
But I just wanted to thank you all for the criticism and I’m gonna make sure I don’t become a cautionary tale.

 

[Astartes]

I don’t take peoples warnings lightly.
My goal is a pretty clean 85kg. I think that’s attainable since that’s what my dads sitting at and he’s currently off and has been off for about a year, we’re the same height, skeletal structure etc.

So I’ve taken all of your points and I’m gonna sit with them and evaluate what I’m gonna do, since this is a serious game with real consequences, and it’s nearly impossible to go into this knowing everything so I’m glad that I have critical people to critique me and the gaps in my considerations.

I will have some pretty serious time off from middle to end of next year.
I’m gonna do some extra serious research on lipids, cholesterol, diet and how it relates and more.
But I just wanted to thank you all for the criticism and I’m gonna make sure I don’t become a cautionary tale.

OP. Some candid come to Jesus reality here.

I want to see you be successful so here it is.

1) You are NOWHERE near your natural genetic potential. (Unless you have some serious autoimmune disease or Chrones, or…etc) Period.

2) You don’t know how to eat right and Gear will not get you where you are hoping. You dial in that diet and it will, but it WILL NOT until then.

3) You are not the only one with a job that will make you forget to eat… or lose sleep… or become physically exhausted. QUIT THE EXCUSES and FIX IT. (Set timers, carry bars in your pockets, meal prep easy eats and pop open on shift.) Lots of big chefs.

4) READ more. Educate yourself and stick to TEST only cycles till you dial in diet, workouts, sleep and your life routines.

 

[readalot]

Drop the AAS. Come back after another 5 to 7 years of major eating and lifting. Hopefully your brain will be finished developing by then. Please.

 

[RomanMVP]

Sorry, but after 2 years of doing it natty, you are nowhere near your full natty potential. Get off the AAS and go forward a few more years as such, THEN contemplate using. As stated elsewhere, son you need to learn how to EAT. It's not overly complicated. But I can already see you're one of those over-thinkers. You have a good frame for this but you'll need to become more ZEN and learn how to be patient.

 

[MindlessWork]

Drop the AAS. Come back after another 5 to 7 years of major eating and lifting. Hopefully your brain will be finished developing by then. Please.

Best advice right here. You need to eat more and train smarter, and AAS is not a crutch. Don't know why your dad's giving you gear advice right now rather than in a few more years OP. Grow more then revisit the gear usage when you are ready to.

 

[Juicedhead]

dude you have good genetics for bodybuilding. Eat more food and continue pushing forward. Food and training is the most important thing. Learn how to eat a lot of clean food and learn what training style is best for you, looking at you id say high volume with moderate weight. Once you get those two down fucking perfectly then start playing with gear. Not saying dont run cycles but make food and training more important.

 

[Flex.AF]

Chicken and oatmeal was the first thing that helped me put on 40 lbs in 4 months. Your not eating for enjoyment, your eating for a purpose. Try to keep that in mind.
Work as hard on the plates of food as you do on the plates of iron.